Agree, no pressure???, ask the QB's that have followed Elway about the lack of pressure.
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The QB's who followed Elway just weren't very good. I'm sure there was some pressure, but I'm not so sure that's why they failed.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
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Success or failure has a lot to do circumstances, and the circumstances Rodgers falls into are truly golden--the receivers, the running game, the O Line, the defense, the coaching staff, etc.
It was like that for Steve Young; It was like that for ...... well, nobody else I can think of. Conversely, I can't think of any QB who bombed out when he was set up for success.
I don't know, maybe that puts more pressure on Rodgers, not less. Either way, I think the psychological angle is way overrated, and I think Rodgers will do just fine.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Bah. All he has to do is outperform T-Jack, Grossman and Kitna this year and I'll be happy.Originally posted by GuinessI'm sure Rodgers has the confidence he needs and so on, but there's no way you can say he isn't feeling the pressure. Replacing Brett has to be the most high profile job in the NFL this coming season - he'll be in a virtual fishbowl.
Not that difficult a task, IMHO.
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Farve could have simply said the following: "I am an active member of the Green Bay Packers and will remain so until I tell you otherwise. This is the last time I will address the subject." That stops the media cold. Every time he is asked after that after that, he could then use the Drew Rosenhaus standard, "Next question." It IS Favre's fault, not the media. Bus Cook is a close second, as he can''t keep his mouth shut either.Originally posted by texaspackerbackerI said it back in the retire or not days, and I'll say it again now, blame the damn media people asking the stupid questions, not Favre--whose only crime is answering them honestly. If the answer is "maybe" or "I don't know", how can you expect the man to give a clear yes or no? And if he ever said no to an interview, he'd probably be villified by the media for farting them off.
As for Rodgers, I really don't think he gives two hoots about this, maybe doesn't even know about the Favre comments--unless some other media dipshit goes and stirs the pot by bringing it up to him.
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The bottom line is what's good for the team i.e. winning games--NOT what is best for either Rodgers or Favre.
Rodgers is going to get his chance. I very much doubt that Rodgers will lose his job during the season due to mediocre performance. He'd have to be really bad for anything like that, and if he was that bad, he'd be replaced regardless of Favre's status. Same thing if he's injured.
All Favre has said is "maybe" in the case of injury--nothing at all with regard to performance.
And if Rodgers was injured for a few weeks, then came back, and if Favre was going good in his absence, I don't know, but I will say this: McCarthy should and would do what is best for the team, never mind who is gonna think or feel what.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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You have to go thru rough patches with young QB's. Most on here remember the early days of Favre when Brett was a real nightmare and cost us games with crazy play. MH stuck with Brett, MM is gonna have to do the same with his guy.Originally posted by texaspackerbackerThe bottom line is what's good for the team i.e. winning games--NOT what is best for either Rodgers or Favre.
Rodgers is going to get his chance. I very much doubt that Rodgers will lose his job during the season due to mediocre performance. He'd have to be really bad for anything like that, and if he was that bad, he'd be replaced regardless of Favre's status. Same thing if he's injured.
All Favre has said is "maybe" in the case of injury--nothing at all with regard to performance.
And if Rodgers was injured for a few weeks, then came back, and if Favre was going good in his absence, I don't know, but I will say this: McCarthy should and would do what is best for the team, never mind who is gonna think or feel what.
I hope ARod finds his stride, but there will be tough times. MM's gonna have to coach his way thru the whole thing.
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cpk, ask the guys that have followed Elway, Marino, Kelley, Fouts, Young, Aikman, ect, ect ect. Young was a HOF talent, he was definitely in the minority when it comes to backups.Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!
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That was also before the days of the Salary Cap and the 49ers could afford to have Steve Young, and Bono sit on the bench getting payed what starters were getting around the league. It was also a time before free agency, Young was being paid well and really had no options of going anywhere else. The 49ers knew what they were doing with Young, it was the Walsh philosophy with QB, he was always planning for the future, the west coast offense would take care of itself.Originally posted by b bulldogcpk, ask the guys that have followed Elway, Marino, Kelley, Fouts, Young, Aikman, ect, ect ect. Young was a HOF talent, he was definitely in the minority when it comes to backups.
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Let's look at the article JH:Originally posted by JustinHarrellFavre is one of three things:
Very stupid
Very selfish
Both
Favre answers Sun Herald questions about 'un-retiring'
SUN HERALD
Recent media reports have suggested former Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre may not be retiring after all.
Since shortly after he made his announcement on March 4, pundits and fans have speculated that perhaps he wasn't done after all. Others have said they'll believe he is retired when the Green Bay starting lineups are announced this fall - and not before.
Amid all this speculation, Favre has remained largely silent, preferring to let others debate the issue of his retirement.
But in a recent interview with Sun Herald sports writer Al Jones, who was working with Favre on a foreward for the Sun Herald's upcoming book,
"The Brett Favre Story,"
the Hancock County native did some speculating himself on whether he'd consider coming out of retirement.
Favre admits he's thought about it and has had moments of reflection since his decision. But, bottom line, he said, is that he's happy with the decision he made.
Here are a few excerpts from Favre's conversation with Jones:
• When asked if he would return to football if the Packers called because of team injuries, Favre said:
"It would be hard to pass up, I guess. But three months from now, say that presents itself, I may say, you know what, I'm so glad I made that decision. I'm feel very comfortable in what I'm doing and my decision.
"Yeah, I can probably be up there doing that and playing, but again, I don't know. It's only speculating. I think the world of that team. I had a lot of fun, not only this year, but over my career. Those guys I played with this past year, a lot of young guys, a lot of fun.
"I think of that, when I think of now being retired, I think I won't be in the quarterback/receiver meeting on Thursdays joking around and having fun and game plan and all that stuff together. It was a fun year. That was fun throwing the ball around like we did. There's no reason to think that won't happen again. Aaron has fallen into a great situation. And if that opportunity presented itself and they did call, it would be tempting. And I very well could be enticed to do it."
• But upon further review, Favre added this:
"But I don't want to do it if I'm not in shape. It would be hard to go up there at 38. It was hard to stay in shape.
I say that, I worked out and I worked out hard. Week in and week out, I was just drained. Finally, for the first time, I felt, not that 38 is old, but I looked around at practice and these guys are bouncing around. And I practiced every day and all the time people would ask me, god, how do you do it? Inside I'm saying, 'I have no idea.' It's a struggle.
"But to think that if they called me in October and told me, 'Hey, we need you this week.' That would be hard. I'm sure mentally, I would be refreshed. I'd be away from it for a long time. But mentally vs. physically, the last thing I'd want to do is go up and it's 'Oh this is great and all that stuff and me be excited and then just flop.
"You just can't show up and play."
• On the issue of filing his retirement papers:
"To be honest with you, never having retired before, I didn't know you had to do that. But Bus (Cook, Favre's agent) and I were talking about it the other day. The Packers had to call. At some point, you have to do it so you don't count toward the (salary) cap.
"So at some point, Bus told me this, too. 'OK you send your papers in today. You send one in tomorrow that says you're unretired. So it's no big deal.' So once you send them in, yeah, it's official, but you could be unofficial the next day. So it's not like, 'Oh, he's over and done with.' You can change your mind the next day.
"As I was flying up to the press conference, I thought, 'Do I really want to do this?' I don't know if I was ever completely convinced one way or the other. That's what I wanted to do at that particular time. I felt like that was the best move for me and the family."
• About the timing of his retirement:
"I could keep saying one more year, one more year, one more year until something happens or they say, 'Brett, we don't want you anymore.' Or you get hurt. Or whatever. And who knows when that time will be. But I just felt it was the right time.
"Come fall, I may think it ain't the right time. But that's the chance I take. Could I possibly see coming back? I think there's a greater chance of me not playing than there would be of me playing again, especially at 38. (Troy) Aikman thought about it. (Dan) Marino thought about it. I'm sure a lot of guys thought about it. Will I think about it? I'm sure.
Especially knowing I can play and the way we played this past year.
"It's tempting. Right now, I feel at peace with my decision. Today is no different that it was last year. I'm just sitting back enjoying my free time."
• And the final word:
"I guess the best response would be, right now no (I'm not coming back).
"I'm happy with my decision. Just taking it one day at a time."
JH:
Really JH, what in this article is stupid or selfish on Brett Favre?
He was asked questions and answered them honestly, clearly and certainly on the measure, says he's happy with his decision (as difficult as it was) to retire and stay retired.
He is asked if he would be tempted to unretire if say Aaron Rodgers got injured. Clearly he said the offer to return if asked would be tempting but realistically being mentally prepared to do so versus reality or physically prepared rules on staying retired.
He played awesome in 2007. There can be no argument against that as a fact. He wasn't Brett Favre Vs the Giants, but a mere shell of the firey competitor we have customarily known. Why?
Brett was burnt out.Exausted. He knew that this season after 16 games and then playoffs the result couldn't be better in his realistic view.
That is far far from Brett Favre being either stupid or selfish, JH.
This is Brett Favre being realistic. Knowing himself.
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Jeee Deputy Nutz, then your as sensible as I knew you are.Originally posted by Deputy NutzJesus Woody, first time I agreed with you in a while.
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"We as a team respect Brett Favre and he was a great teammate but we are ready to move forward and it is now Rodgers time", Mark Tauscher.Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!
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Did Tausch really say that? Excellent attitude. A-rod has to be feelin' the o-line love.
Hutson and Bulldog, I'm on board with you.
Why Favre feels the need to share his inner, deepest, most secret self with every two-bit reporter who sticks a mic in his face has always been a mystery to me.
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