Found this on a blog, interesting TT stat

[sheepshead]

Per Tom Kowalski in the last 3 years (the Ted Thompson draft era) the Lions have drafted 11 players 4th round or later. The Packers have drafted 22 players 4th or beyond which has given them 6 starters to the Lions 0. One these 4th or laters is Mason Crosby.

[Bretsky]

Re: Found this on a blog, interesting TT stat

Per Tom Kowalski in the last 3 years (the Ted Thompson draft era) the Lions have drafted 11 players 4th round or later. The Packers have drafted 22 players 4th or beyond which has given them 6 starters to the Lions 0. One these 4th or laters is Mason Crosby.

Six of our starters were 4th round or beyond from TT drafts ?

hmmm

Poppinga
Coston (I'm assuming they count him)
Crosby


I can't think of the others

[PlantPage55]

Then they'd have to count Tony Moll, because he has in fact started.

So,

Mason Crosby
Tony Moll
Junius Coston
Brady Poppinga
Will Whitticker! (pukes)
Aaron Rouse (started 2 games)

Are they really taking those temporary starters into account? Cuz that's kinda dumb

[packers11]

Johnny Jolly ?
DeShawn Wynn? > He was starting before he got hurt...
Will Blackmon ? lol ... nevermind...

[the_idle_threat]

Re: Found this on a blog, interesting TT stat

Per Tom Kowalski in the last 3 years (the Ted Thompson draft era) the Lions have drafted 11 players 4th round or later. The Packers have drafted 22 players 4th or beyond which has given them 6 starters to the Lions 0. One these 4th or laters is Mason Crosby.

Six of our starters were 4th round or beyond from TT drafts ?

hmmm

Poppinga
Coston (I'm assuming they count him)
Crosby


I can't think of the others

Well here's the list.

2007 - Green Bay Packers
Rd Sel # Player Position School

4 119 Allen Barbre G Missouri Southern State
5 157 David Clowney WR Virginia Tech
6 191 Korey Hall FB Boise State
6 192 Desmond Bishop LB California
6 193 Mason Crosby K Colorado
7 228 DeShawn Wynn RB Florida
7 243 Clark Harris TE Rutgers

2006 - Green Bay Packers
Rd Sel # Player Position School

4 104 Cory Rodgers WR Texas Christian
4 115 Will Blackmon CB Boston College
5 148 Ingle Martin QB Furman
5 165 Tony Moll G Nevada-Reno
6 183 Johnny Jolly DT Texas A&M
6 185 Tyrone Culver DB Fresno State
7 253 Dave Tollefson DE Northwest Missouri State

2005 - Green Bay Packers
Rd Sel # Player Position School

4 115 Marviel Underwood DB San Diego State
4 125 Brady Poppinga LB Brigham Young
5 143 Junius Coston C North Carolina A&T
5 167 Mike Hawkins DB Oklahoma
6 180 Mike Montgomery DT Texas A&M
6 195 Craig Bragg WR UCLA
7 245 Kurt Campbell CB Albany State (NY)
7 246 Will Whitticker G Michigan State


Jolly is one, probably.
Korey Hall
Tony Moll has started.
DeShawn Wynn started a little while.
Will Whitticker started for a while.

Probably not talking about "Neon" Hawkins or Corey Rodgers.

[MJZiggy]

Don't forget Special Teams

[Bretsky]

Don't forget Special Teams

Sure; so we have about 33 starters instead of the normal 22

[Bretsky]

Hall
Crosby
Jolly
Poppinga
Coston

all seem legit

If you want to include anybody who has started a game then I'm sure Detroit could add plenty of less than talented bodies to the equation as well

[MJZiggy]

Don't forget Special Teams

Sure; so we have about 33 starters instead of the normal 22

Not quite true because some of the ST starters also start on O or D.

The original stat said that Detroit had 0 starters to TT's 6 so Detroit apparently has no one to add.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Maybe Grant?

[BallHawk]

Maybe Grant?

Think they were only counting players drafted by TT himself.

[Patler]

Crosby, Hall, Poppinga, Jolly all legitimate current "starters".

Whitticker obviously was for a whole season, even if he isn't in GB now. He was the designated starter, not a replacement.
Wynn was the starter, until injured; but wouldn't be considered so now.
Moll started 10 games as a rookie (hard to believe, isn't it?) and 3 last year.
Coston, not really an injury substitute, but not a real legitimate starter yet either. More or less just "tried" as a starter.

Clearly 4 starters now, and 5 with Whitticker who were not injury replacements, but the individuals who were the designated starters at their positions. Moll, Coston and Wynn were more of the "replacement" types when they started.

[Tarlam!]

Any other forum out there claimng to be the best, forget it!

Got Patler?

[Gunakor]

Crosby, Hall, Poppinga, Jolly all legitimate current "starters".

Whitticker obviously was for a whole season, even if he isn't in GB now. He was the designated starter, not a replacement.
Wynn was the starter, until injured; but wouldn't be considered so now.
Moll started 10 games as a rookie (hard to believe, isn't it?) and 3 last year.
Coston, not really an injury substitute, but not a real legitimate starter yet either. More or less just "tried" as a starter.

Clearly 4 starters now, and 5 with Whitticker who were not injury replacements, but the individuals who were the designated starters at their positions. Moll, Coston and Wynn were more of the "replacement" types when they started.

What do you think the odds are that Justin Harrell beats out Johnny Jolly for the starting DT job opposite Ryan Pickett? Harrell is healthy now, and will be able to participate in all of the OTA's and all of the minicamp and training camp activities. If he can get back to being the beast he was during his junior year at Tennessee - the year before his injury - I don't see Jolly beating him out for the job. There's a reason Harrell went 16th overall. If his college career wasn't marred by injury, there's no doubt in my mind he'd have went top 10. I think if he can stay healthy he'll be able to win a starting job. So I don't know if I'd call Jolly a legitimate starter yet, just the guy who's listed atop the offseason depth chart, created before any competiton takes place. Don't get me wrong, I like Johnny Jolly. But I don't think he's better than a healthy Justin Harrell.

[red]

you got that right

its nice to know the most knowledgeable packer fan is a rat

nice stuff patler