Predit what Ted Does... (1st rounder)

[sheepshead]

I'm guessing we pick at #30...with about 95% certainty.

If we did move, I would venture a guess that the chances were slightly higher that we would move up than down. I don't see Ted trading down unless someone gives him a crazy good deal to do so...and I don't see that scenario happening for pick #30. Ted could move up if he saw someone falling into the mid 20s that he felt was a clear top 20 talent in an area of need.

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

I'm sorry - I can't let that boldface line go unchallenged. Who, pray tell, is the genius GM who is actually discussing the possibility of simply passing up his first round pick? Please name the "there's talk" - whose talk?

I think Sheephead wrote it and then read what he wrote. Therefore it was in "print."

And, you can trust everything you read.

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[Lurker64]

I'm guessing we pick at #30...with about 95% certainty.

If we did move, I would venture a guess that the chances were slightly higher that we would move up than down. I don't see Ted trading down unless someone gives him a crazy good deal to do so...and I don't see that scenario happening for pick #30. Ted could move up if he saw someone falling into the mid 20s that he felt was a clear top 20 talent in an area of need.

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

I'm sorry - I can't let that boldface line go unchallenged. Who, pray tell, is the genius GM who is actually discussing the possibility of simply passing up his first round pick? Please name the "there's talk" - whose talk?

I heard the idea floated on ESPN radio a couple of weekends ago and the concept was like this: "The Dolphins have 6 or so players that they would be willing to take #1 overall and that they grade out very close to each other. The fifth or sixth pick of the draft will get paid a lot less than the first pick of the draft, and paying someone #1 overall money and having him be a bust is disastrous for a franchise longterm because of the cap hell it puts you in. It's practically impossible to trade out of the #1 spot (teams have been trying to do so for years) and particularly in this year when there's no "must have" franchise maker talent. So it might make the most sense for the Dolphins to just continue to pass their picks until they are down to 1-2 or the players that they would be willing to take #1 overall, and then just pick that guy at #5 or #6 and end up paying a whole lot less for him."

The guys on ESPN discussing it seemed to think it wasn't a bad idea, but only Parcells is really ballsy enough to to pull it off.

Nobody is really thinking of passing out of the first round entirely. I mean, the last pick in the first round and the first pick in the second round don't have that dramatic a difference in how much they get paid. Plus, at the rate that #30 overall picks get paid, it's really not economically crippling if you take a chance on a guy and he doesn't turn out to be that great.

Unlike, say, if Jamarcus Russell turns out to be a bad NFL QB, the Raiders are in a lot of trouble considering how much they guaranteed him.

[The Leaper]

So it might make the most sense for the Dolphins to just continue to pass their picks until they are down to 1-2 or the players that they would be willing to take #1 overall, and then just pick that guy at #5 or #6 and end up paying a whole lot less for him.

It makes NO sense to me. That is playing with fire IMO. Once you forfeit your pick, you have no guarantee where you are going to end up. There could be 10 teams there turning in a draft card the minute your pick expires, and the Dolphins could suddenly be on the outside looking in...no one would know until the cards were sorted out in the order they arrived at the podium.

The only way I could see Parcells moving back like this was to make an agreement with the team behind him each time up...telling them he'll make the pick for them and trade player for pick afterwards. This allows Miami to steadily move back in a timely fashion without the mad dash for the podium that could result in crazy stuff.

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I'm guessing we pick at #30...with about 95% certainty.

If we did move, I would venture a guess that the chances were slightly higher that we would move up than down. I don't see Ted trading down unless someone gives him a crazy good deal to do so...and I don't see that scenario happening for pick #30. Ted could move up if he saw someone falling into the mid 20s that he felt was a clear top 20 talent in an area of need.

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

I'm sorry - I can't let that boldface line go unchallenged. Who, pray tell, is the genius GM who is actually discussing the possibility of simply passing up his first round pick? Please name the "there's talk" - whose talk?

no, its legit. i've heard it too. it was either talked about yesterday on espn or nfl network

but there are teams thinking about skipping their picks

its not that bad, the next guy just has to go in their place and the original picker i think can jump back in whenever they want

its not like the forfeit the pick, they just drop down a spot

they end up still getting the guy they want but at a lower spot and for less money

[sheepshead]

Good to see there are some folks paying attention on here. Bravo, not just the lemmings that cant seem to think for themselves.

[HarveyWallbangers]

any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself

Last year, the late picks got around 5y/$10-12M contracts with $5-6M guaranteed. Hardly damaging to a team's salary cap. It's the first 8 picks that teams try to trade out of. Those guys get ridiculous contracts, and half of them don't pan out.

[HarveyWallbangers]

It would probably be best if you keep the name calling to JSO. It doesn't work that well here--if you are interested in a decent discussion.

[sheepshead]

It would probably be best if you keep the name calling to JSO. It doesn't work that well here--if you are interested in a decent discussion.

Gee whiz thanks for the lecture I didnt sign up for-but I didnt start it. Scroll up. My opinion was attacked with name calling and cut and paste questions.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I'm guessing we pick at #30...with about 95% certainty.

If we did move, I would venture a guess that the chances were slightly higher that we would move up than down. I don't see Ted trading down unless someone gives him a crazy good deal to do so...and I don't see that scenario happening for pick #30. Ted could move up if he saw someone falling into the mid 20s that he felt was a clear top 20 talent in an area of need.

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

I'm sorry - I can't let that boldface line go unchallenged. Who, pray tell, is the genius GM who is actually discussing the possibility of simply passing up his first round pick? Please name the "there's talk" - whose talk?

I think Sheephead wrote it and then read what he wrote. Therefore it was in "print."

And, you can trust everything you read.

blow me

I'm straight. But, it is cool if you are gay. All are welcome here.

I'm glad you feel secure enough to let everyone know you sexual proclivities.

Sheepshead is here, he is queer...GET OVER IT.

[sheepshead]

ok, no ones bitting on todays trivia, Tony Smith was drafted in the first round of the 1992 draft by the Atlanta Falcons with a pick from the Green Bay Packers for one, Brett Favre. Ironically Tony attended college at Southern Mississippi. Gotta think those Falcons fans were all excited: "oh boy we dumped this hayseed from our bench and got the next Eric Dickerson."

Just a fun example of the folly of the first round of the NFL draft.

[Deputy Nutz]

Good to see there are some folks paying attention on here. Bravo, not just the lemmings that cant seem to think for themselves.

Easy Sailor.

[sheepshead]

excuse me?

[Deputy Nutz]

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E-a-s-y S-a-i-l-o-r.

[woodbuck27]

I'm guessing we pick at #30...with about 95% certainty.

If we did move, I would venture a guess that the chances were slightly higher that we would move up than down. I don't see Ted trading down unless someone gives him a crazy good deal to do so...and I don't see that scenario happening for pick #30. Ted could move up if he saw someone falling into the mid 20s that he felt was a clear top 20 talent in an area of need.

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

I'm sorry - I can't let that boldface line go unchallenged. Who, pray tell, is the genius GM who is actually discussing the possibility of simply passing up his first round pick? Please name the "there's talk" - whose talk?

I think Sheephead wrote it and then read what he wrote. Therefore it was in "print."

And, you can trust everything you read.

blow me

sheepshead. Make sure he has the strength.

[sheepshead]

excuse me?

E-a-s-y S-a-i-l-o-r.

i can read--not sure what you want. you can email me if youd like