Predit what Ted Does... (1st rounder)

[packers11]

B, don't you think that after spending a second rounder (on Jackson), that it would be a waste to have a first rounder barley get any touches or have to split time with two people?

The way I see it is that Grant will be here for awhile and Jackson will be a viable backup unless he has an explosive season...

I don't think there is much need at RB but I guess you could have made that argument about DT last year...

Your guess is as good as mine

[Bretsky]

B, don't you think that after spending a second rounder (on Jackson), that it would be a waste to have a first rounder barley get any touches or have to split time with two people?

The way I see it is that Grant will be here for awhile and Jackson will be a viable backup unless he has an explosive season...

I don't think there is much need at RB but I guess you could have made that argument about DT last year...

Your guess is as good as mine

We have much greater needs than RB
But need is a small portion of how TT looks at these picks

If he thinks Stewart is a top 15 player in this draft and he slips to 30 due to injuries I could see him pulling the trigger

If Stewart is a star and Grant is as well we're set there for a while. I'm not that sold on Jackson to be honest; I think he's backup material at this point.

To be honest if Stewart is there at #30 it may present TT an opportunity to trade down with a team that needs a RB and I'd hope he would jump at that if it occured.

[Joemailman]

Very funny, B, but I don't think I'd be upset if Stewart ended up here either.

Stewart
Grant
Jackson

Nice looking youthful core of RB's for the future. That would be nice

One other prediction.

I really want to see a TE, preferrable in round two. I think we're weak there.


VERDICT

TT will not draft a TE til the later rounds or not at all

I think if one of the top 5 TE's are available when the Packers pick in the 2nd round, TT will take one with one of his 2 2nd round picks. With Bubba now gone, I think he knows he has to upgrade this position. He won't reach to fill a need, but there could be value with a TE in the 2nd round.

[sheepshead]

Instead of asking me nicely and civilly if I had sources, I was slammed pretty good and a few posters came to my defense.

I am not particularly interested in whether on not you feel you are being lectured, or whether you recognize a fellow Rat trying to make a differentiation for you that might make your posting more enjoyable for you and your posts more enjoyable for other. I assure you, in my case, the latter is true.

To your point quoted, "nicely and civilly"? Are you serious?? This is a Football site. There is supposed to be conflict. But about the topic being discussed, not the person. You like to call people names, tell them how misguided their lifestyles are, you even want to play judge and jury on how much time is too much to spend here.

FWIW, I too had remembered seeing or reading something on teams passing early in the 1st. But I simply couldn't find the source. So I didn't back you up. Mark me down for the Lemmings Bingo Night.

Finally, despite what your sig said at JSO, you seem to be an arrogant cyber person with an enormous ego. Not unlike myself in many ways.

you really need to get a life and leave me alone. Do you stalk me on different sites? Whats wrong with you?

[woodbuck27]

Were in for a rough season.

Or so you seem to hope.

I never HOPE my team will lose. I'm a Packer fan. This year the 50th Anniversary of being a Packer fan, Scott.

Read that again, try to understand what that means Scott Campbell. I'm hoping TT does really well this season.

Your carrying that signature around like some statement of your extreme delusion and obsession. That makes YOU look bad man. I recommend that, YOU try to get that Scott. Change towords me? Isn't your rush something to do with your obsession and woodbuck27!?

Think.

Scott Campbell get this please.. I actually voted that we'll make the playoff's.

We do have questions and will be in transition. Favre had a huge season in 2007. Too bad it got to being too hard on his head and back. He looked burnt out Vs the Giants. FROZEN from more than the temperature.

His decision to retire was in my view. Wise.

Now it's on TT. I want TT to succeed, but to get there he will have to think differently in my view. Be more assertive.

PACKERS FOREVER!

[Guiness]

In the case of the first pick team, they easily can start contract negotiations with any player or players they choose. If money is an issue for Miami, then they can offer all the players a certain amount, who ever enters into talks the Dolphins should sign the cheapest player. It is basically the same thing that Houston ended up doing with Reggie Bush and Mario Williams. Bush was asking for the farm, Williams was cheaper, they had them rated relative so they went went the cheaper player.

My first point is simple, If I was say Atlanta, why not forget to get your slip of paper up to the commish? Why not wait for a couple of teams to jump you if you have three players rated the same?

Just you and I staying somewhat OT here Nutz! You're nearly the voice of reason. How do you like it?

If Miami did that, they could do well...as there are arguably 5 players they could negotiate with, instead of 2. I think Gholston would be the lowest valued of those 5, but he's still viable. That would put downward pressure.

As far as Atlanta (or St-L) I agree with you, and that would be interesting. I wonder how likely?

[woodbuck27]

Very funny, B, but I don't think I'd be upset if Stewart ended up here either.

Stewart
Grant
Jackson

Nice looking youthful core of RB's for the future. That would be nice

One other prediction.

I really want to see a TE, preferrable in round two. I think we're weak there.


VERDICT

TT will not draft a TE til the later rounds or not at all

I think if one of the top 5 TE's are available when the Packers pick in the 2nd round, TT will take one with one of his 2 2nd round picks. With Bubba now gone, I think he knows he has to upgrade this position. He won't reach to fill a need, but there could be value with a TE in the 2nd round.

I'm hoping that TT will see it right to go for an excellent defensive player with his first pick.Then to look at a TE in the second round does seem prudent.

The fact is, or so we'er led to believe. Is that he always goes BPA, off his board. I'm not a fan of always going BPA. Especiallly when OUR team has need at certain positions.

To say I'll go BPA " off my board " seems to me to leave the fan out in the cold. It's " a cop out " in my view. It's to discount the fan as some person that hasn't a clue. TT has to realize that Packer fans are far from that. Packer fans on this board are in touch with team needs.

In effect, Ted Thompson works for us. The Packer fans.

Packers Forever!

[woodbuck27]

B, don't you think that after spending a second rounder (on Jackson), that it would be a waste to have a first rounder barley get any touches or have to split time with two people?

The way I see it is that Grant will be here for awhile and Jackson will be a viable backup unless he has an explosive season...

I don't think there is much need at RB but I guess you could have made that argument about DT last year...

Your guess is as good as mine

We have much greater needs than RB
But need is a small portion of how TT looks at these picks

If he thinks Stewart is a top 15 player in this draft and he slips to 30 due to injuries I could see him pulling the trigger

If Stewart is a star and Grant is as well we're set there for a while. I'm not that sold on Jackson to be honest; I think he's backup material at this point.

To be honest if Stewart is there at #30 it may present TT an opportunity to trade down with a team that needs a RB and I'd hope he would jump at that if it occured.

OK. Then B. I'm reading into this that you hope TT will not use #30 (and or that and trade up) rather trade down for more picks.

Is that right?

Packers Forever!

[Scott Campbell]

Were in for a rough season.

Or so you seem to hope.

I never HOPE my team will lose.

Really?

You're very believable.

[woodbuck27]

Were in for a rough season.

Or so you seem to hope.

I never HOPE my team will lose.

Really?

You're very believable.

Scott Campbell.I'm getting really tired of YOU and Tyrone Biggins.

Something must be done about your need to abuse.

I'm very serious. I have had to try to deal with your BS since I began to post over on JSO and your way will end with me. Very soon. Your call today.

TRUST THAT. The showdown is about to come. I want to come here and enjot this board; not always have too try to deal with your juvenile insessant abuse and nonsence. YOUR a SICK man Scott.

It will end. I expect just that. GOT IT ? I advise that YOU do Scott Campbell.

I don't like you . You don't like me. So be a man and STOP.

We had an agreement once upon a time to STOP and YOU as usual go your foolhardy way. It's no good for the general membership here.

Your embarring Scott Campbell. Your SICK . Your certainly abusive. No more of that on me. I'm perfectly serious Scott.

My name is Ed. (woodbuck27)

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Very funny, B, but I don't think I'd be upset if Stewart ended up here either.

Stewart
Grant
Jackson

Nice looking youthful core of RB's for the future. That would be nice

One other prediction.

I really want to see a TE, preferrable in round two. I think we're weak there.


VERDICT

TT will not draft a TE til the later rounds or not at all

I think if one of the top 5 TE's are available when the Packers pick in the 2nd round, TT will take one with one of his 2 2nd round picks. With Bubba now gone, I think he knows he has to upgrade this position. He won't reach to fill a need, but there could be value with a TE in the 2nd round.

I'm hoping that TT will see it right to go for an excellent defensive player with his first pick.Then to look at a TE in the second round does seem prudent.

The fact is, or so we'er led to believe. Is that he always goes BPA, off his board. I'm not a fan of always going BPA. Especiallly when OUR team has need at certain positions.

To say I'll go BPA " off my board " seems to me to leave the fan out in the cold. It's " a cop out " in my view. It's to discount the fan as some person that hasn't a clue. TT has to realize that Packer fans are far from that. Packer fans on this board are in touch with team needs.

In effect, Ted Thompson works for us. The Packer fans.

Packers Forever!

This has got to be the most ridiculous assertion ever. TT works for the fans. LOL.

Perhaps TT should listen to all 3 million Wisco natives individually about which player he should pick.

To honestly think that any fan of this board understands the packers as well as TT, his current players, coaches and prospective packers is just outright delusional.

I've changed my view..you aren't just senile..you are narcisistic as well.

[Bretsky]

B, don't you think that after spending a second rounder (on Jackson), that it would be a waste to have a first rounder barley get any touches or have to split time with two people?

The way I see it is that Grant will be here for awhile and Jackson will be a viable backup unless he has an explosive season...

I don't think there is much need at RB but I guess you could have made that argument about DT last year...

Your guess is as good as mine

We have much greater needs than RB
But need is a small portion of how TT looks at these picks

If he thinks Stewart is a top 15 player in this draft and he slips to 30 due to injuries I could see him pulling the trigger

If Stewart is a star and Grant is as well we're set there for a while. I'm not that sold on Jackson to be honest; I think he's backup material at this point.

To be honest if Stewart is there at #30 it may present TT an opportunity to trade down with a team that needs a RB and I'd hope he would jump at that if it occured.

OK. Then B. I'm reading into this that you hope TT will not use #30 (and or that and trade up) rather trade down for more picks.

Is that right?

Packers Forever!

Yes, if he has the chance to move down that would be my bias this year. I think the talent between 25-45 is pretty even.

[woodbuck27]

B, don't you think that after spending a second rounder (on Jackson), that it would be a waste to have a first rounder barley get any touches or have to split time with two people?

The way I see it is that Grant will be here for awhile and Jackson will be a viable backup unless he has an explosive season...

I don't think there is much need at RB but I guess you could have made that argument about DT last year...

Your guess is as good as mine

We have much greater needs than RB
But need is a small portion of how TT looks at these picks

If he thinks Stewart is a top 15 player in this draft and he slips to 30 due to injuries I could see him pulling the trigger

If Stewart is a star and Grant is as well we're set there for a while. I'm not that sold on Jackson to be honest; I think he's backup material at this point.

To be honest if Stewart is there at #30 it may present TT an opportunity to trade down with a team that needs a RB and I'd hope he would jump at that if it occured.

OK. Then B. I'm reading into this that you hope TT will not use #30 (and or that and trade up) rather trade down for more picks.

Is that right?

Packers Forever!

Yes, if he has the chance to move down that would be my bias this year. I think the talent between 25-45 is pretty even.

There are a couple of Safety's that may go off the board just before we're sitting on #30, that I really like.

Kenny Phillips and Reggie Smith. TT hasn't trade up, but as Lurcher suggested. Maybe he could package our #30 and our third rounder to secure one of these fellas and he make a push for our FS spot.

They're both good at ST's as well.

If TT trades down into a position to pick high in the second round. He has a shot at some decent prospects at DE and CB. Fortunately this draft isn't bad for a team picking late in the first round. TT also did some nice Pre Draft preperation giving us two seconds, and that compensatory pick in the fourth is a real bonus.

I hope he's on the mark a week fr. Saturday.

Packers Forever.

[HarveyWallbangers]

ESPN Mag had an article about how the teams that have traded down the most have been the best teams. To be honest, I'd rarely see a situation where I'd want our GM to trade up. The article stated that Jimmie Johnson's trade chart was flawed because it was based on 4 years of data, and that teams that have been trading up since that chart came out 15 years ago have been overpaying to do so.

[woodbuck27]

ESPN Mag had an article about how the teams that have traded down the most have been the best teams. To be honest, I'd rarely see a situation where I'd want our GM to trade up. The article stated that Jimmie Johnson's trade chart was flawed because it was based on 4 years of data, and that teams that have been trading up since that chart came out 15 years ago have been overpaying to do so.

Got it Harvey.

Packers Forever!