Barnett's Club in line to lose liquor license

[wist43]

It amazes me how anyone could try to rationalize abhorrent behavior... we as a society seem to go to the extreme in finding excuses for the lowest common denominator.

I find that just as disgusting - maybe even more disgusting than the behavior itself. The world is full of morons - I don't see why otherwise intelligent people would try to make excuses for them. Like I said, I have a very low threshold of idiots and idiotic behavior.

[bigcoz75]

I am not condoning any of this behavior, but the fact is this same behavior is happening at the other clubs in town. My problem with this is that Five Six seems to be getting singled out because of it's clientel.

[Rastak]

It amazes me how anyone could try to rationalize abhorrent behavior... we as a society seem to go to the extreme in finding excuses for the lowest common denominator.

I find that just as disgusting - maybe even more disgusting than the behavior itself. The world is full of morons - I don't see why otherwise intelligent people would try to make excuses for them. Like I said, I have a very low threshold of idiots and idiotic behavior.

But Wist, why not cite the morons doing this stuff rather than pull the guys license? Also, are all the businesses treated equally? The second is the main question. If they are then fine, shut down all clubs that have patrons who pee in yards. I completely agree I would REALLY dislike having that done in my yard. Why not have Green Bay's finest do a bit of patrolling?

[GrnBay007]

Why not have Green Bay's finest do a bit of patrolling?

EXACTLY!! I'm not sure what Wisconsin's laws are, but where I live we have public intoxication.....any unrulely behavior on the streets after the bars close and you go to jail for the night and get a nice fine. As for the public urination, here you get charged with Indecent Exposure.......not a nice thing to have on your record. If the police are patrolling the area regularly and citing these people, the ones causing the problems will stop frequenting the establishment.

I'm not condoning the behavior at all.........just wondering if the local police have helped at all in controlling these incidents????

[GBRulz]

I certainly don't condone the behavior either, but my point of this is that he IS being singled out because of his clientele. His average clientele probably makes more money in a year that many of us will see in a lifetime. It's a pretty high end club.

If some of you have actually BEEN to the club and make your assumptions from that, fine. But some haven't even been there or the area and make judgements about the the kind of establishment that it is.

A good friend of mine was almost killed several years ago because she was beaten and raped in the parking lot at a bar on N. Broadway. There have been DOZENS of incidents at this particular place over the years and also, it's in the middle of a neighborhood. Where is the outcry in that?

Barnett has no control of what goes on AFTER people leave the club. Like Rastak said, where are GB's "finest" ? too busy ticketing hot dog vendors who keep their stand open after 2am, perhaps?

[bigcoz75]

Cheers Michelle, well said

[GBRulz]

yay, another poster from GB !!

There are a few of us on here now. Might have to organize an official PR welcome wagon committee pretty soon.

[MadtownPacker]

Zima- the smae respectable official who years ago was caught shoplifting bratwurst at a grocery store.

You serious? HAHAHAHA, what a piece of garbage hypocrite!

Welcome to PR Bigcoz, let me know if you need help setting up an avatar or having any questions.

[K-town]

NIMBY... Local government officials are absolutely correct in taking steps to ensure that residents can live their lives to that expectation.

In the county where I live, we have a gun club that's been in existence for over 75 years. When property adjacent to the gun club was zoned for residential, the NIMBYs who moved in immediately petitioned to have the gun club moved or closed down, because of the noise and the "danger." Thank God the local government had the cojones to tell these jackoffs to go screw themselves. If the gun club (or the airport, or the factory, or the bar) is there before you got there, then you either deal with it, or you don't move there in the first place.

While I'm on my rant:
Our local airport requested extending runways, so that they could accept more business from cargo carriers. NIMBYs, again, protested and the extensions didn't go through. Mind you, again, the runway was there before the subdivision. Well fine. Maybe you should have thought about the noise when you moved in next to an airport. Even asswipes like these jerks must have noticed the planes, hangers, etc. Here's my thought - since taxes for everyone went up in part because the revenue from the airport didn't increase, how about these NIMBY m-fers pay the difference in MY bill?

[mngolf19]

As for the public urination, here you get charged with Indecent Exposure.......not a nice thing to have on your record.

007, that's not from personal experience, right?

[K-town]

I certainly don't condone the behavior either, but my point of this is that he IS being singled out because of his clientele. His average clientele probably makes more money in a year that many of us will see in a lifetime. It's a pretty high end club.

If some of you have actually BEEN to the club and make your assumptions from that, fine. But some haven't even been there or the area and make judgements about the the kind of establishment that it is.

A good friend of mine was almost killed several years ago because she was beaten and raped in the parking lot at a bar on N. Broadway. There have been DOZENS of incidents at this particular place over the years and also, it's in the middle of a neighborhood. Where is the outcry in that?

Barnett has no control of what goes on AFTER people leave the club. Like Rastak said, where are GB's "finest" ? too busy ticketing hot dog vendors who keep their stand open after 2am, perhaps?

Wow, I'm on a roll today.
Again, a little tale about my hometown. A friend of mine owned a club that went from rock to Tejano to hip-hop/"urban dance". Guess when the cops started patrolling the area hourly, writing tickets, attempting to have his license pulled, etc.? As with most clubs this size, there was and always will be the occasional jerkoff who pees on the lawn and makes too much noise after 2 A.M. It became a problem for the neighbors and the cops only when it was black and Hispanic people making the noises, etc. The matter was resolved only when he threatened to sue the city and the police department (Among the more amusing anecdotes - the police reported a "riot" involving a hundred people. Surveillance cameras from my friends and neighboring businesses recorded no foot or auto traffic for the entire half-hour time frame when the "riot" occurred).
As a side note, there's a bar next door to the place I frequent (both at the end of a residential block) where gambling, drug-dealing and prostitution are openly in progress. This establishment is allowed to stay open because the owner is a "respected" member of the community. Sometimes it IS about who you know. The clientele, and the neighborhood, are about as diverse (racially and economically) as you can get in this state.

[swede]

I can't think about Guy Zima without remembering that he's the dude that got arrested for leaving a local grocery store with about fifteen punds of meat under his trench coat.

Green Bay is a funny little town. Tank and I are glad we grew up in Appleton.

And if the aldermen in Sheerboredom, where I live now, were to get complaints from constituents about bar patrons urinating on their bushes they would send three guys in a truck to move the bushes back a few feet. Bars are the light industrial backbone of the economy in this burg. Noise at closing time means business for the budweiser trucks means new bats for the softball team. We can live with the noise if it means new bats and unis.

[esoxx]

All I know is FiveSix has the most delicious chicken pasta dish I've ever experienced. Simply outstanding.

[GBRulz]

UPDATE POSTED JUNE 3 IN THE GB PRESS GAZETTE

Posted June 3, 2006

Alderman changes stance on Barnett's FiveSix club

Wery says business should have another shot at liquor license

By Paul Srubas
psrubas@greenbaypressgazette.com


An alderman who voted with the majority on a committee recommending Wednesday to deny a liquor license renewal for Nick Barnett's FiveSix now hopes to persuade the Green Bay City Council to cut the Packers player and his nightclub some slack.


"Sometimes, a day after a vote, cooler heads prevail," said Alderman Chris Wery, who had voted with the majority Wednesday in its 3-1 decision to deny a liquor license renewal to FiveSix, 405 W. Walnut St., Green Bay.


The committee took the action at the urging of member Guy Zima after neighbors raised concerns about bad behavior from bar patrons. Neighbors complained about fights, public urination and garbage from the club.


Lt. Jim Runge of the Green Bay Police Department's community policing team said that FiveSix has been a problem spot, generating about 22 police calls in the first five months of this year. That's high, he said, but it isn't necessarily the worst tavern in town, and Runge said he'd prefer seeing the committee addressing the worst bars first.


Still, he said, complaints about FiveSix came from residential neighbors, and "why should people living nearby have to tolerate it?" he said.


The committee's decision, which remains unchanged despite Wery's second thoughts, still needs approval from the full City Council, which meets Tuesday.


But Wery plans to vote the other way and hopes to persuade other aldermen to do the same.


"The committee came to the point where it was sick of problem bars and maybe felt it was sending a message to all bars in the city to knock it off or they're going to lose their license," he said. "But to be fair, we should give (FiveSix) a second chance to improve or lose its license. Basically, other bars with similar problems, we've given a second chance to them, and that should apply here."


Wery said he's working with the city attorney to draft a list of promises or stipulations that he wants to present to Barnett to sign.


The list would include areas of improvement that the club would promise to make if its liquor license were renewed. Wery figures that such a list not only would help the city monitor Barnett's progress but also could help to persuade aldermen that offering a second chance could be effective.


"Our purpose really shouldn't be to shut people down but to gain adherence to the laws," Wery said.


Barnett couldn't be reached for reaction.

[FavreChild]

See, they realized they were hatin'.

Thanks for the update, GBM - our woman on the street.