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  • #1

    Positional Boards

    I said I wouldn't get into this, but I'm doing a little research.

    Position-by-position. Starting with QB.

    ESPN's Scouts, Inc.

    1. Matt Ryan, Boston College (1st round)
    2. Brian Brohm, Louisville (late 1st-early 2nd)
    3. Chad Henne, Michigan (late 1st-early 2nd)
    4. Joe Flacco, Delaware (early 2nd)
    5. Andre Woodson, Kentucky (3rd)
    6. John David Booty, USC (mid 3rd-late 3rd)
    7. Josh Johnson, San Diego (late 3rd-early 4th)
    8. Colt Brennan, Hawaii (4th-5th)
    9. Erik Ainge, Tennessee (5th-7th)
    10. Matt Flynn, LSU (6th-7th)
    Green Bay Press Gazette

    1. Matt Ryan, Boston College (1st round)
    2. Brian Brohm, Louisville (late 1st-early 2nd)
    3. Chad Henne, Michigan (late 1st-early 2nd)
    4. Joe Flacco, Delaware (late 1st-mid 2nd)
    5. John David Booty, USC (2nd-3rd)
    6. Josh Johnson, San Diego (3rd-4th)
    7. Kevin O'Connell, San Diego State (4th-5th)
    8. Erik Ainge, Tennessee (4th-5th)
    9. Dennis Dixon, Oregon (5th-6th)
    10. Colt Brennan, Hawaii (5th-7th)

    Rising: Chad Henne, Michigan
    Falling: Andre Woodson, Kentucky
    Sleeper: Matt Flynn, LSU
    NFL Draft Countdown

    1. Matt Ryan, Boston College (1st round)
    2. Brian Brohm, Louisville (late 1st)
    3. Joe Flacco, Delaware (2nd)
    4. Chad Henne, Michigan (2nd)
    5. Andre' Woodson, Kentucky (3rd)
    6. John David Booty, USC (late 3rd-early 4th)
    7. Josh Johnson, San Diego (late 3rd-early 4th)
    8. Colt Brennan, Hawaii
    9. Erik Ainge, Tennessee
    10. Kevin O'Connell, San Diego State
    Scout.com

    1. Matt Ryan, Boston College
    2. Joe Flacco, Delaware
    3. Chad Henne, Michigan
    4. Brian Brohm, Louisville
    5. John David Booty, USC
    6. Andre Woodson, Kentucky
    7. Alex Brink, Washington State
    8. Bernard Morris, Marshall
    9. Erik Ainge, Tennessee
    10. Anthony Morelli, Penn State
    Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News

    1. Matt Ryan, Boston College
    2. Brian Brohm, Louisville
    3. Chad Henne, Michigan
    4. Joe Flacco, Delaware
    5. John David Booty, Southern Cal
    6. Andre Woodson, Kentucky
    7. Erik Ainge, Tennessee
    8. Josh Johnson, San Diego
    9. Kevin O'Connell, San Diego State
    10. Matt Flynn, LSU

    Sleeper: Kyle Wright, Miami (Fla)
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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  • #2
    Most think the draft is average at QB, but I think this will end up being a solid draft at QB--mainly because I'm higher on Ryan, Brohm, and Henne than most.

    From reading bios (so my opinion is completely uniformed), these are my top 10 QBs:

    1. Matt Ryan, Boston College
    2. Chad Henne, Michigan
    3. Brian Brohm, Louisville
    4. Josh Johnson, San Diego
    5. Joe Flacco, Delaware
    6. John David Booty, USC
    7. Kevin O'Connell, San Diego State
    8. Andre Woodson, Kentucky
    9. Erik Ainge, Tennessee
    10. Matt Flynn, LSU

    Intriguing late round picks: Kyle Wright, Miami (Fla); Paul Smith, Tulsa

    Ideal Packer picks for me: Assuming Henne or Brohm don't drop to late in the 2nd round, the best thing for me would be to get Josh Johnson in the 3rd round and possibly take another guy as a late round development pick.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #3
      RBs

      ESPN'S Scouts, Inc.

      1. Darren McFadden, Arkansas (1st round)
      2. Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois (1st)
      3. Jonathan Stewart, Oregon (late 1st)
      4. Felix Jones, Arkansas (late 1st-early 2nd)
      5. Jamaal Charles, Texas (2nd)
      6. Ray Rice, Rutgers (2nd)
      7. Matt Forte, Tulane (3rd)
      8. Steve Slaton, West Virginia (3rd)
      9. Chris Johnson, East Carolina (3rd)
      10. Kevin Smith, Central Florida (late 3rd-early 4th)
      11. Mike Hart, Michigan (late 3rd-early 4th)
      12. Tashard Choice, Georgia Tech (4th-5th)
      13. Thomas Brown, Georgia (late 4th-5th)
      14. Justin Forsett, California (5th)
      15. Chauncey Washington, USC (5th)
      16. Cory Boyd, South Carolina (5th-6th)
      17. Allen Patrick, Oklahoma (late 5th-early 6th)
      18. Rafael Little, Kentucky (6th)
      19. Anthony Alridge, Houston (6th)
      20. Dantrell Savage, Oklahoma State (6th)
      NFL Draft Countdown

      1. Darren McFadden, Arkansas
      2. Jonathan Stewart, Oregon
      3. Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois
      4. Felix Jones, Arkansas
      5. Chris Johnson, East Carolina
      6. Ray Rice, Rutgers
      7. Matt Forte, Tulane
      8. Kevin Smith, Central Florida
      9. Jamaal Charles, Texas
      10. Tashard Choice, Georgia Tech
      11. Steve Slaton, West Virginia
      12. Chauncey Washington, USC
      13. Cory Boyd, South Carolina
      14. Thomas Brown, Georgia
      15. Mike Hart, Michigan
      16. Justin Forsett, California
      17. Jalen Parmele, Toledo
      18. Chad Simpson, Morgan State
      19. Ryan Torain, Arizona State
      20. Anthony Alridge, Houston
      Scout.com

      1. Darren McFadden, Arkansas
      2. Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois
      3. Chris Johnson, East Carolina
      4. Felix Jones, Arkansas
      5. Jamaal Charles, Texas
      6. Jonathan Stewart, Oregon
      7. Matt Forte, Tulane
      8. Kevin Smith, UCF
      9. Ray Rice, Rutgers
      10. Tim Hightower, Richmond
      11. Steve Slaton, West Virginia
      12. Tashard Choice, Georgia Tech
      13. Chauncey Washington, USC
      14. Jalen Parmele, Toledo
      15. Mike Hart, Michigan
      16. Dantrell Savage, Oklahoma State
      17. Chad Simpson, Morgan State
      18. Cory Boyd, South Carolina
      19. Allen Patrick, Oklahoma
      20. Ryan Torain, Arizona State
      Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News

      1. Darren McFadden, Arkansas
      2. Rashard Mendenhall, Illinois
      3. Jonathan Stewart, Oregon
      4. Felix Jones, Arkansas
      5. Chris Johnson, East Carolina
      6. Jamaal Charles, Texas
      7. Kevin Smith, Central Florida
      8. Ray Rice, Rutgers
      10. Matt Forte, Tulane
      11. Chauncey Washington, Southern California
      12. Tashard Choice, Georgia Tech
      13. Jacob Hester, LSU (FB)
      14. Thomas Brown, Georgia
      15. Mike Hart, Michigan
      16. Justin Forsett, California

      Sleeper: Andre Callender, Boston College
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • #4
        I don't really have a feel for the RBs. McFadden is a good prospect, but I don't think he's in Adrian Peterson's class. Felix Jones looks like Reggie Bush without the unbelievable moves. He's always looking to get outside. I like Ray Rice as a player, but the mileage on his legs scares me. I'm not a big fan of Mike Hart. Jacob Hester is a solid FB prospect, but I don't like him near as much as I liked Brian Leonard last year.

        The Packers would have to think about Stewart if he dropped to them. Jamaal Charles (who appears to have good one-cut ability) or Rice in the 2nd round or Forte in the 3rd round are intriguing to me.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #5
          Chris Johnson from ECU is the most intriguing back of the non-first round variety. His speed is tremendous, and looks to be a good return guy too. If he were still there in the second round when Green Bay has their third pick, it would be hard to pass on him.
          "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Carolina_Packer
            Chris Johnson from ECU is the most intriguing back of the non-first round variety. His speed is tremendous, and looks to be a good return guy too. If he were still there in the second round when Green Bay has their third pick, it would be hard to pass on him.
            Matt Forte VS Chris Johnson


            Matt Forté Height: 6-13/8 | Weight: 217 | 40-Time: 4.46

            Official Bio

            Strengths:

            Has excellent size...Real versatile...Tough and physical...Very good blocker...Great vision and instincts...Runs hard and with power...Does a nice job in short-yardage situations...Good hands and he can catch the ball out of the backfield...Productive.

            Weaknesses:

            Lacks great timed speed and quickness...Needs to get stronger...A 'tweener who may not have a true pro position...Is not explosive or a big play threat...Won't be a traditional lead blocker...Not real elusive...Has some durability / health concerns.

            Notes:

            Father played football for the Green Wave from 1975-77 and was a captain..Older brother, Bryan, played football at McNeese State...Suffered a season-ending knee injury as a junior...

            Named the Tulane Male Student-Athlete of the Year in '07...Ran for over 2,000 yards as a senior...

            Could realistically project to either running back or fullback at the next level...

            Nice all-around weapon..A poor-man's Brian Leonard.

            Career Statistics

            Year GP Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds TD
            2004 11 140 624 4.5 4 20 180 2
            2005 11 169 655 3.9 4 23 163 1
            2006 9 163 859 5.3 8 28 360 2

            ** 2007 12 361 2,127 5.9 23 32 282 0

            Totals 43 833 4,625 5.1 39 103 985 5

            **Great Production as has excellent size...Real versatile...Tough and physical...Very good blocker... Great hands... does a nice job in short-yardage situations

            ************************************************** **********

            Running Back | Senior | East Carolina Chris Johnson
            Height: 5-11 | Weight: 197 | 40-Time: 4.24

            Official Bio

            Strengths:

            Extremely fast and explosive...A terror in space...Very quick and elusive...Fantastic receiver with terrific (albeit small) hands...Runs good routes...Decent vision and a good cutback runner...Can really turn the corner...A great natural athlete...A very versatile weapon..Also an outstanding kick returner..Still has considerable upside.

            Weaknesses:

            Lacks the size and bulk that you look for...Not tough or physical...Looks to bounce everything outside and he doesn't offer much as an inside runner..

            Toughness and durability are issues...

            Sub par blocker...May be a 'tweener without a true position.

            Notes:

            Bounced around between running back and wide receiver throughout his college career and could project to either position in the pros...

            If he stays at running back he will probably have to make his mark as a 3rd down / situational guy and return specialist...

            Has not yet reached his full potential because he was never afforded the opportunity to concentrate on mastering a single position...

            A very poor-man's Reggie Bush who can definitely help a team if used correctly... Intriguing prospect.

            Career Statistics

            Year GP Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds TD

            2004 11 134 561 4.2 5 32 236 2
            2005 11 176 684 3.9 6 35 356 2
            2006 12 78 314 4.0 4 21 176 0

            2007 13 236 1,423 6.0 17 37 528 6 (see Matt Forte)

            Totals 47 624 2,982 4.8 32 125 1,296 10
            ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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            • #7
              I must've missed the memo...why did Brohm fall like he did?

              He was highly rated last year, stayed in school and developed a bit more, had a decent year...

              so what happened?
              --
              Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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              • #8
                What has happened to Andre Woodson, talk about dropping off? Late in the college season, he was a surefire top 3 QB and first round pick. Where is he being projected to go now? He has the size you definitely look for, just needs a lot of work on his mechanics and mental part of the game. I really have no idea where he is projected to go, but if he somehow made it to the late 3rd I'd be tempted to pick him up. I like how our coaching staff has worked on Aaron's mechanics, they could surely do the same for him.
                Go PACK

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                • #9
                  I still have this feeling Teddy is gonna have a top QB (Brohm, Henne, Flacco) sitting there at 30, and he'll find anyway to trade back, even if it's for a 2nd & a 3rd and next year #2, I'm ok with that! I just have that feeling, I donno.
                  "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bossman641
                    What has happened to Andre Woodson, talk about dropping off? Late in the college season, he was a surefire top 3 QB and first round pick. Where is he being projected to go now? He has the size you definitely look for, just needs a lot of work on his mechanics and mental part of the game. I really have no idea where he is projected to go, but if he somehow made it to the late 3rd I'd be tempted to pick him up. I like how our coaching staff has worked on Aaron's mechanics, they could surely do the same for him.
                    The latest I've heard on Woodson is he'll be anywhere from 3rd-5th round pick.
                    "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ND72
                      Originally posted by Bossman641
                      What has happened to Andre Woodson, talk about dropping off? Late in the college season, he was a surefire top 3 QB and first round pick. Where is he being projected to go now? He has the size you definitely look for, just needs a lot of work on his mechanics and mental part of the game. I really have no idea where he is projected to go, but if he somehow made it to the late 3rd I'd be tempted to pick him up. I like how our coaching staff has worked on Aaron's mechanics, they could surely do the same for him.
                      The latest I've heard on Woodson is he'll be anywhere from 3rd-5th round pick.
                      3rd-5th. Wow. Can't see him lasting all the way to the 3rd round but I certainly hope he does. I'm thinking along your lines. I'm hoping some team will be looking to jump back into the 1st round to try and grab a QB. We get a few extra picks out of it, that's why I wouldn't mind spending a 3rd-4th round pick on a QB to develop.
                      Go PACK

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