Culpepper to Packers?

[KYPack]

I don't particularly like the guy, either.

but..

3 Pro bowls. I don't care if he threw to 5 HOF receivers, he has QB skills.

He's only 30. He had one of the greatest seasons in NFL history when he last played regularly. Then he got hurt & Minn ran him off. Then he made a variety of stupid moves and went to 2 terrible QB situations. He also tried to come back way too early at Mia.

Check out his 2004 line:

ProBowl(*), 1st-team All-Pro(+),
Year Age Tm Pos G GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng
2004* 27 MIN QB 16 16 379 548 69.2 4717 39 7.1 11 2.0 82 8.6 8.4 12.4

That's one of the greatest QB lines in NFL history. He's now healed up. He's as good as you can get off the waiver wire.

Yes, he's no genius, but he's an NFL vet QB.

We need one of them guys.

[Zool]

I still dont like it or him. I REALLY dont want to see him in a Packer jersey. Its not quite as bad as McMahon, but its close. I'm not talking about his football ability, I just really don't want to see someone from the Vikes or the Bears in a Packer uni.

There is ample precedent. There's been plenty of former Vikings playing for Green Bay. Hell, what was all that Moss love earlier from folks?

Just think, Daunte can get his roll on in GB!

I NEVER want to see him gettin his roll on in a Packer uni. You can count me in the didnt want Moss side too. I've been trying to come up with former Vikings who join the Packers and I'm not coming up with anything.

[MadScientist]

I still dont like it or him. I REALLY dont want to see him in a Packer jersey. Its not quite as bad as McMahon, but its close. I'm not talking about his football ability, I just really don't want to see someone from the Vikes or the Bears in a Packer uni.

There is ample precedent. There's been plenty of former Vikings playing for Green Bay. Hell, what was all that Moss love earlier from folks?

Just think, Daunte can get his roll on in GB!

I NEVER want to see him gettin his roll on in a Packer uni. You can count me in the didnt want Moss side too. I've been trying to come up with former Vikings who join the Packers and I'm not coming up with anything.

Gilbert Brown

[Zool]

There ya go. Good call. Have there been any players who did anything for the Vikes then left to GB?

[Bossman641]

The sight of Daunte getting his roll on in a Packers jersey would honestly make me puke.

I'm getting flashacks to him doing his stupid dance and that fuckin horn that would go off all the time.

[Guiness]

There ya go. Good call. Have there been any players who did anything for the Vikes then left to GB?

Can't think of any. Only player of any note who went from the Vikes to the Pack is Gilbert Brown. Only bit player I know if is (how could you forget!) Ben Steele.

But I can't think of anyone who had a career in both places, or even that had a career in Minnesota then came to the Pack.

[KYPack]

There ya go. Good call. Have there been any players who did anything for the Vikes then left to GB?

Can't think of any. Only player of any note who went from the Vikes to the Pack is Gilbert Brown. Only bit player I know if is (how could you forget!) Ben Steele.

But I can't think of anyone who had a career in both places, or even that had a career in Minnesota then came to the Pack.

Dave Roller

A pretty good DT who played for us in the "wilderness 70's". He left the Pack & played at a lesser level for the Queens for a couple seasons.

You guys are right, it doesn't happen much.

[Tarlam!]

I'd take Culpepper in a minute. The dude can play and any way you slice it, A-Rod is not enough. We need some insurance.

[Gunakor]

I'd trust Culpepper as the #2 over any rookie we'd draft. He's a veteran with starting experience, and knows NFC North opponents better than anyone else we could get. Even if he struggled without a vertical threat like Randy Moss, we can't overlook the fact that we have a pretty good vertical threat ourselves in Greg Jennings. I'm almost certain that he could get it done if called upon.

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/04/24/on-culpepper-taylor-and-allen.aspx

Bedard hates the idea of Culpepper going to Green Bay. Thinks it's a terrible match. I can't argue with that, but there aren't many backup QBs with more talent. Hell, Mike McCarthy made Aaron Brooks into a decent, and sometimes solid, starter in New Orleans. Maybe he could work his magic again.

Bedard also thinks that Miami is definitely shopping Taylor, and they'd be delusional to think they can get a 1st round pick for a guy who may play one or two more years. He's gone Hollywood. Personally, I'd hesitate to even give up a 2nd round pick for him. A 1st round pick? No way.

He also has an interesting take on the Jared Allen deal, and how it either works out or fails miserably. He pointed out how there really isn't a lot of protection in the deal--because the Vikings lose the draft picks and they are only protects the Vikings a lot financially if Allen gets suspended within the next year. If he gets into trouble after that, they will have lost the draft picks and taken a cap hit on a guy who only worked out for a couple of years. If it doesn't work out, it will have a rippling effect for years to come.

[Green Bud Packer]

There ya go. Good call. Have there been any players who did anything for the Vikes then left to GB?

Can't think of any. Only player of any note who went from the Vikes to the Pack is Gilbert Brown. Only bit player I know if is (how could you forget!) Ben Steele.

But I can't think of anyone who had a career in both places, or even that had a career in Minnesota then came to the Pack.

Dave Roller

A pretty good DT who played for us in the "wilderness 70's". He left the Pack & played at a lesser level for the Queens for a couple seasons.

You guys are right, it doesn't happen much.

Jeff Brady went from the Pack to the Queens.He always came up with big games against the Pack

I say no to Culpepper. Not the guy I want mentoring Rodgers

[The Leaper]

I will admit that Culpepper isn't the perfect fit for Green Bay...but he isn't supposed to be a long term solution. He is merely an insurance policy. Culpepper can make all the throws, and I completely disagree that Culpepper is merely a "chuck it deep" QB. Did Bedard ever watch Culpepper at Central Florida? Did he ever watch while Culpepper was posting a nearly 70% completion rate in 2004?

Sure, his hands could be an issue in the cold. I saw Culpepper roll our ass in Lambeau during the playoffs though...maybe Bedard missed that too. Culpepper, in terms of raw talent, is still one of the top 15 QBs in the NFL IMO. Put him on a team with some offensive talent, and he will still post some numbers.

If he is willing to come in and fight for the #2 spot, I'm more than willing to let him do so.

[The Leaper]

I say no to Culpepper. Not the guy I want mentoring Rodgers

Culpepper won't be mentoring anyone. Favre was the guy who mentored Rodgers. No veteran we bring in will mentor Rodgers...Rodgers knows 10 times more about the offense and our players than any veteran we will bring in.

A veteran #2 will be brought in simply as INSURANCE...not as a mentor or someone who can tuck Rodgers in at night. Rodgers is the man now...the mentoring he will get will come on the field now.

[Rastak]

http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/04/24/on-culpepper-taylor-and-allen.aspx

He also has an interesting take on the Jared Allen deal, and how it either works out or fails miserably. He pointed out how there really isn't a lot of protection in the deal--because the Vikings lose the draft picks and they are only protects the Vikings a lot financially if Allen gets suspended within the next year. If he gets into trouble after that, they will have lost the draft picks and taken a cap hit on a guy who only worked out for a couple of years. If it doesn't work out, it will have a rippling effect for years to come.

He figured that about out the picks all on his own? LOL.....The money shouldn't cripple them but the draft picks would hurt. I hardly think it's crippling. If a team missed on a 1st and and 2 3rd round picks they are now crippled? If a team misses on their top 3 picks are they now screwed for years? No, it hurts but it doesn't kill you. People sure try real real hard to paint a gloomy horrible future but even worst case it isn't end of the world stuff. It would be a big setback, hardly a franchise ending event.




I say it's all a bunch of fear mongering. I would use the term setback

[HarveyWallbangers]

He figured that about out the picks all on his own? LOL.....The money shouldn't cripple them but the draft picks would hurt. I hardly think it's crippling. If a team missed on a 1st and and 2 3rd round picks they are now crippled? If a team misses on their top 3 picks are they now screwed for years? No, it hurts but it doesn't kill you. People sure try real real hard to paint a gloomy horrible future but even worst case it isn't end of the world stuff. It would be a big setback, hardly a franchise ending event.

I say it's all a bunch of fear mongering. I would use the term setback

Yep, we're all fearful of the Vikings. It's Super Bowl homeboy for the Vikes again. You can go to KFAN if you want to read universal praise of this move. I think there's tremendous risk with this move. We'll see how it pans out.

There's only been one player that the Vikings have had that made me "fearful." That was Randy Moss. How "fearful" did Brett Favre make you? I'm not "fearful" of Jared Allen. Chad Clifton didn't have much trouble with Allen, and the Packers didn't even have to double Allen much. If the Vikings found a QB to complement Peterson, I might be "fearful" of him.

The Vikings got an Aaron Kampman for a 1st, two 3rds, and a boatload of cash. A high risk Aaron Kampman who could get suspended for a year if he makes another mistake. Congratulations! I guess I'm growing tired of the typical Vikings fans response around here to a move like this. At least, I'm expressing my opinions on a Packers board, and not being a troll on a Vikings board. I'm not saying you are a troll, but I wouldn't get too bent out of shape because I don't like the move all that much. I've been wrong before, but it smacks of complete desperation to me.

See the Vikings 2005 draft to see how a bad draft can set a franchise back.