2008 OFFICIAL DRAFT THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rastak]

[quote="imscott72"]

Hey IMSCOTT, which pick were they making fun of, Kevin Williams or Bryant McKinnie?

KW..they were replaying Berman and the boys going crazy about the Vikes not turning their pick in..

Hey IMscott, I went apeshit. I damn near had a fucking stroke. I'm serious.


It worked out fantastic but holy crap was I bummed.

[LL2]

lol Henne really doesn't look happy at all

He really should be. Heck, John Beck may not be the answer in Miami, and he could go in there and take the job over. Perhaps he's just Mr. Laidback. Dude, you're going to Miami...sun and fun.

and babes in thong bikini's walking in front of his beach front condo!

[digitaldean]

Watch the NFLN then. Espn hates us.

I like taht we picked a CB...but I want Jason Taylor!

I would except for the fact that Time Warner Cable hates me and refuses to have the NFL network

Gotta love Big Brother Time Warner. Can have all sorts of crap channels on (style, Lifetime) and then screw around with NFLN.

DirecTV is the way to go. Big Ten Net plus NFL Net all in high def..I dumped cable a few months ago and it's the best decision I've ever made..

Yeah, love to do it, but I have trees from my %*#&@#*$(* city on a terrace blocking the SW exposure I need to get line of sight for satellite. Tried it with Dish about 6 years ago, worked great in fall/winter, when spring came it was useless.

[Rastak]

Pats take Wheatley CB


Strengths: Opens hips well, fast enough to run with most receivers and generally knows when to look back for the ball. Changes directions well and explodes out of cuts. Gets adequate knee bend in backpedal and shows good closing speed going forward. Catches the ball well and flashes big-play ability. Rarely bites on play action and waits for quarterback to cross line of scrimmage before leaving coverage assignment. Has a mean streak and fills hard when reads run. Works from snap until whistle, flashes the ability to shed blocks and always seems to be around the ball at the end of the play. Takes sound pursuit angles and makes plays in pursuit. Wraps up upon contact and doesn't miss many open field tackles. Has experience covering punts, is an experienced kickoff return man and has the potential to develop into a valuable special teams' player.

Weaknesses: Gets adequate hand placement when plays close to the line of scrimmage but doesn't deliver a powerful initial punch and is going to have problems slowing bigger receivers down at the line of scrimmage. Isn't aggressive enough, doesn't jump enough routes and gives the inside away too much. Lacks ideal bulk and bigger receivers are going to have some success shielding him from the ball. Doesn't have great size and or strength, is a drag-down tackler and can struggle to bring powerful runner down. Slowed by injuries throughout the 2004 season, missed 2005 spring practices because of a wrist injury, re-injured the wrist during 2005 preseason practices, missed the entire 2005 season and sustained a hairline fracture in left foot late in the 2007season so durability is a concern.

Overall: In his first two seasons at Colorado (2003-'04), Wheatley appeared in 25 games (seven starts) and had 57 tackles, eight pass breakups and four interceptions (he returned one for a touchdown). In 2006, he started all 12 games, recording 57 tackles, 11 pass breakups and five interceptions. As a senior in 2007, he played 10 games and had 42 tackles (one for a loss), one forced fumble, 10 pass breakups and five interceptions (including a 35-yard touchdown return). He also had a career 59 kickoff returns for 1,411 yards (23.9 average). Wheatley suffered a right wrist dislocation in '03, undergoing three surgeries over three years to repair the injury (including 2005, when he sat out the season and was granted a medical redshirt). In September '06, he broke the metal plate in his wrist but continued to play (he had another surgery after the season). In '07 he missed the Buffaloes' final three games because of a hairline fracture in his foot. He also left games early in '06 (concussion) and '07 (knee sprain) but didn't miss any more time as a result. Wheatley has the cover skills to develop into an effective sub-package corner and he is a lot tougher against the run than his size would indicate. However, his upside is limited by his lack of size and he is going to have problems matching up with bigger receivers. In addition, his inability to stay healthy at the collegiate levels coupled with his size raises questions about his ability to stay healthy over the course of a 16-game season.

[Rastak]

Giants take Thomas CB:


Strengths: Is tall, well-built with good top-end speed. Can be effective in man and zone coverage but at his best playing press-man. Is physical and aggressive, using long arms and strong upper body to take receivers out of their routes at the line. He is instinctive in coverage and knows when to turn and look for the ball. Displays good ball skills and is a natural playmaker. In zone, he does a good job of keeping everything in front of him and reading the QB's eyes. Gives a good effort and is very productive in run support. Fills hard, takes solid angles and is a reliable open-field tackler. Versatility gives him extra value; has experience playing safety and covering kicks. Great intangibles. Coaches and teammates speak very highly of his leadership skills and work ethic.

Weaknesses: Multiple injuries (dislocated right shoulder in 2003 and left shoulder in spring of 2007, as well as torn ligaments in right knee in 2005) generate considerable long-term durability worries. He's instinctive but he also tends to freelance at times and can get in trouble by being out of position. He's fast for his size but he does lack elite fluidity in his hips and will have some trouble keeping up with smaller, quicker WR's on double moves in the NFL. Struggles to find the ball over his shoulder and is much more effective when the play is in front of him.

Overall: Thomas arrived at USC in 2003 as a safety but redshirted the year after suffering a shoulder dislocation in fall practice and undergoing surgery. He moved to cornerback and in his first three seasons (2004-'06) played in 26 games (15 starts), posting 64 tackles (three for losses), four interceptions and 15 pass breakups. As a senior in 2007, he started all 13 games at right cornerback and had 45 tackles (4.5 for losses), three forced fumbles, four interceptions and seven pass breakups. In 2005, Thomas suffered torn ligaments in his right knee and underwent season-ending surgery, missing all but the Trojans' first two games. He also had surgery after dislocating his left shoulder in 2007, sitting out spring drills. Thomas is at his best when working in press coverage but he does not possess the fluid hips to be left alone on an island very often in man-coverage at the next level. He seems best suited to play in a physical zone-heavy scheme and probably will max out as a No. 3 corner in the NFL. On the positive side, he has some extra value because of his experience at safety and covering kicks. However, his laundry list of injuries will undoubtedly cause him to slip even though he started all 13 games last year. Thomas projects as a third or fourth round pick.

[Bretsky]

Godfrey is still there at #60, but I'd rather have Finley or Bennett.

Bennett- Great Talent

[digitaldean]

DID ANY TEAM PICK DAN CONNOR?

NOPE. Both he and Manningham are the biggest names still available for round 3.

[motife]

just to repeat Ted Thompson is on live now :

http://www.packers.com/multimedia/packers_on_air_schedule/

talking about Brohm..

Said he wanted Jordy all along, but tried to keep it under the radar.

[theeaterofshades]

[quote="imscott72"][quote="digitaldean"]

Watch the NFLN then. Espn hates us.

Gotta love Big Brother Time Warner. Can have all sorts of crap channels on (style, Lifetime) and then screw around with NFLN.

DirecTV is the way to go. Big Ten Net plus NFL Net all in high def..I dumped cable a few months ago and it's the best decision I've ever made..

IMSCOTT: How is the reception during rain/snow? Also where you at? I have observed that direct is better than dish in some areas and vice versa. I just wish that verizon had FiOS in our area... HD not compressed!

[pittstang5]

DID ANY TEAM PICK DAN CONNOR?

No

[gbgary]

now tt needs to take our picks at 91 and 113 and move up and get someone in the 80s.

[Rastak]

That's it for day 1! See you in the day two thread!

[woodbuck27]

Quarterback | Senior | Louisville Brian Brohm
Height: 6-27/8 | Weight: 230 | 40-Time: 4.69

Official Bio

Strengths:

Has good size and a solid frame...Mechanically sound...Doesn't have a cannon but arm strength is more than adequate...Has a terrific football IQ and knows how to read a defense...Very smart and doesn't make many bad decisions...Hard worker with great intangibles who loves the game and wants to improve...Gets rid of the ball quickly...Good accuracy, touch and timing...Decent athlete...Moves well in the pocket...Has lots of experience...Very productive at every level...Good bloodlines.

Weaknesses:

Required surgery for a torn ACL in 2005, torn ligaments in his thumb in 2006 and most recently went under the knife to repair his non-throwing shoulder in January of '07...Played in an offensive system that pumped up his numbers and didn't ask him to make a lot of difficult throws...Mobility is very limited and he isn't much of a threat to scramble...Could be more of a vocal leader...May not have a big upside.

Notes:

Was the fourth Brohm to play football for the Cardinals following in the footsteps of his dad, Oscar, and brothers, Greg and Jeff...

Brother Jeff is currently Louisville's quarterbacks coach and was an NFL journeyman in the mid and late 1990's ...

One of the premier recruits in the nation coming out of high school and took home just about every prep accolade imaginable...

Was selected by the Colorado Rockies in the 49th round of the 2004 MLB amateur draft...

Would appear to be a prototype franchise quarterback but he has some serious question marks when it comes to durability and the system he played in that cloud his future...A boom or bust type.

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Career Statistics

Year GP Comp Att Yds Comp % TD INT

2004 11 66 98 819 67.3% 6 2

2005 10 207 301 2,883 68.8% 19 5

2006 11 199 313 3,049 63.6% 16 5

2007 12 308 473 4,024 65.1% 30 12

Totals 44 780 1,185 10,775 65.8% 71 24

TTT had to go there I think. Nice pick and recovery fr. his dubious first pick of the day.

PBA option We needed good new blood at QB. Second rated QB in Draft by a lot of NFL fans.

GO PACK GO !

[cpk1994]

The first two rounds of this draft were completed in the same amount of time as last years first round alone. WOW.

[RashanGary]

TT just said he was trying to trade up to get Brohm.