Official 2008 NFL Draft thread Day 2

[ND72]

ZIB!!!! I had some hopes for him in Green & Gold.....I'm fine with him being in the AFC though.

[Tarlam!]

Checking in from Belgium to just make one little comment.

That guy's name is Harry Douglas.

I don't understand why I think that's funny, but I'm thinking it's because I'm immature.

Greetings Belgium! Germany calling!!

[Rastak]

Ravens take Zbikowski , kind of an odd dude but a high motor player....

trengths: A tough, hard-nosed safety prospect. Fills hard when reads run and also can hold up at times in the box. Generally takes sound angles to the ball and is a relentless run defender. Squares up to the ball carrier, wraps up and is a reliable open field tackler that flashes the ability to deliver the big hit. Times blitzes well and flashes an adequate rip move. Looks to strip or punch the ball out of the ball carrier's hands when chasing and is a ball hawk. Plays with a lot of emotion and is a natural leader. Fearless punt return man, flashes big-play ability in that role and can make an immediate impact in other areas on special teams.

Weaknesses: No matter what his combine results indicate, he has stiffness in his hips that limit his range in coverage and, to a lesser degree, in run support. He lacks the range to consistently hold up in deep-middle zone from the high point. Can get caught too close to the line of scrimmage and lacks the change-of-direction skills to recover when he gets caught in a trail position. Footwork is inconsistent and gets spun around at times. Can get too physical in coverage; is vulnerable to pass interference and defensive holding calls. Slow locating the ball over his shoulder at times. He has great experience as a PR but lacks the agility and breakaway speed of an gamebreaker in the NFL most likely will be no more than a backup in that role.

Overall: Zbikowski wasn't redshirted after arriving at Notre Dame in 2003, but he later was granted a fifth year of eligibility after appearing in no games as a freshman. From 2004-'06, he played in 35 games (all starts), registering 213 tackles (4.5 for losses), six interceptions (two returned for touchdowns) and seven pass breakups. As a senior in 2007, he started all 12 games at strong safety and had 80 tackles (1.5 for losses), one sack, three forced fumbles, one pass breakup and two interceptions. For his career, he also had 66 punt returns for 757 yards (11.5 average) and three touchdowns. Zbikowski missed one game in 2006 after suffering a left shoulder strain and a neck stinger. He also was a nationally ranked Golden Gloves boxer who went 60-13 as an amateur. Zbikowski can't be considered an elite prospect at the position because he has too many athletic limitations. Zbikowski's production tailed off as a senior, but the same can be said for all of Notre Dame's senior prospects from the rebuilding 2007 team. On the positive side, it's hard not to appreciate his tough-guy mentality and versatility he brings to the table. While we don't think he's an explosive enough athlete to return punts in the NFL, he at least has experience in that role and can fill in if necessary. Zbikowski should be At best, Zbikowski develops into a solid starter in a scheme that protects him from certain deep-zone and man-coverage situations. At worst, he should be a versatile reserve and an excellent special teams contributor at the next level. Zbikowski is worth a third or fourth round pick.

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Checking in from Belgium to just make one little comment.

That guy's name is Harry Douglas.

I don't understand why I think that's funny, but I'm thinking it's because I'm immature.

harry johnson would have been the more funny name

or harry dingle

[CaliforniaCheez]

Checking in from Belgium to just make one little comment.

That guy's name is Harry Douglas.

I don't understand why I think that's funny, but I'm thinking it's because I'm immature.

I once had a client Harold Woodcock that the receptionists giggled over.

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damn zbikowski's gone

[Rastak]

Checking in from Belgium to just make one little comment.

That guy's name is Harry Douglas.

I don't understand why I think that's funny, but I'm thinking it's because I'm immature.

harry johnson would have been the more funny name

or harry dingle

I'd go with Harry Bush.

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nd, is crying somewhere

[SkinBasket]

harry johnson would have been the more funny name

or harry dingle

The day we found out Harry Colon had that spinal narrowing thing was one the saddest of my life.

[Scott Campbell]

Buster Hymen.

[Rastak]

Man, Jags paid

#1, 2 #3's and a #4 to get Harvey.

[CaliforniaCheez]

Will the Packers go with Beau Bell OLB out of NV in the 3rd???

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picks are flying off the board right now

[Rastak]

Lions take DT Fluellen


Strengths: Anticipates snap well, can locate the ball carrier quickly and flashes the ability to make plays in the backfield. Active feet and makes it difficult for blockers to sustain. Works hard, takes sound angles to the ball and can make plays in pursuit. Wraps up upon contact, generally brings the ball carrier down when gets hands on him and flashes the ability to deliver the big hit. Has a quick first step and shows adequate not great closing speed when gets a clear path to the quarterback. Flashes an effective rip move and is a relentless pass rusher. Moves well laterally and runs line stunts well.

Weaknesses: Undersized and isn't tall enough to add substantial bulk to frame. Tough and physical but gets engulfed by double teams and lacks ideal lower body strength. Doesn't use hands well and is far more effective attacking gap than occupying blockers. Lunges at times, ducks head at times and loses balance far too much. Can be overaggressive and gets caught too far upfield at times. Doesn't show great body control in space and has some problems making plays in the open field. Has yet to develop effective double moves and doesn't always force blockers to move their feet. Drives legs once in position but doesn't have great lower body strength and isn't a great bull rusher. Slowed by ankle and hamstring injuries in 2006, he missed three games with an elbow injury last year and his lack of size raises questions about his ability to stay healthy over the course of a 16-game season.

Overall: Fluellen arrived at Florida State in 2003 and redshirted the year. In his first three seasons (2004-'06), he appeared in 37 games (26 starts) as a defensive tackle and nose tackle, recording 60 tackles (16.5 for losses) and three sacks. As a senior, he played 10 games (five starts) and finished the season with 21 tackles, two sacks and two pass breakups. He missed several games and starts last season because of a series of injuries, including a hyperextended elbow and torn ligaments in his finger. Fluellen is a disruptive and relentless one-gap three technique but he's had some problems staying healthy the past two seasons and he isn't dominant in any one area so he projects as an early second day pick.

[The Leaper]

Will the Packers go with Beau Bell OLB out of NV in the 3rd???

I'm guessing no.