Official 2008 NFL Draft thread Day 2

[Rastak]

Pats trade down......

[Tarlam!]

Give Rodgers two years to prove him self. If he sucks trade/cut him, and Brohm by then is ready to go. If Rodgers is good, trade Brohm.

You make it sound like Packer fans will accept 2 shitty QB years. Now that Brohm is here, I doubt they'll accep 2 shitty quarters before screaming from the bleachers....

i think as soon as rodgers throws his first INT or loses his first game you're going to hear rumblings for brohm

They'll give Rodgers the full season barring injury. As many have mentioned in other threads, there is no way Brohm is going to come in and upseat Rodgers for the starting job in his rookie season.

He doesn't know the offense, but more importantly, he's not going to get enough reps in practice to learn the offense that quickly. Believe me, they are going to give Rodgers 90% of the practice reps now that he's been annointed the starter. Brohm just isn't going to get the reps needed to develop into a starter in his rookie year.

I have every faith in A-Rod, especially after the Dallas game. I also think I have the patience to stick to him while he learns the position.

But let's face it - Brett Favre has absolutely spoiled Packer fans and I don't see the paying public at Lambeau not scream for Brohm if A-Rod suckes.

Doesn't mean M3 benches the guy, just that the natives might get hostile.

[Rastak]

Chargers take FB Jacob Hester:


Strengths: A versatile fullback/tailback hybrid type. Plays the game with great passion and intensity. Gets the most out of his physical tools. A team-player that will do anything a coach asks of him to help the team. Runs hard and shows good initial burst for his size. Will lower his shoulders and picks up good yardage after initial contact. A tough inside runner. Has developed into an excellent receiver out of the backfield. Runs crisp routes and displays reliable hands. Does an excellent job of coming back to his quarterback on scrambles and busted plays. Can adjust to the poorly thrown ball and gets upfield quickly. Gives a great effort as a blocker. Takes good angles and generally gets in good position. Exceptional work ethic and toughness. Is a leader with outstanding intangibles. Has experience on special teams and displays the ideal mentality to contribute in that facet of the game in the NFL.

Weaknesses: Lacks any elite physical tools. Is severely undersized at the fullback position. Gives up too much size in the phone booth as an iso-blocker and won't be able to win most battles versus bigger linebackers at the point of attack. He lacks ideal elusiveness and speed to carry a full load as a featured back and he needs to get bigger and stronger in order to effectively handle short-yardage carries in the NFL.

Overall: During his first three seasons at LSU (2004-'06), Hester appeared in 37 games (14 starts) at tailback, fullback and on special teams. He had 139 carries for 677 yards (4.8 average) and eight touchdowns, plus 48 receptions for 353 yards (7.3 average) and six touchdowns. As a senior, Hester played 14 games and led the Tigers in rushing. He had 1,103 rushing yards and 12 touchdowns on 225 carries (4.9 average) and 14 receptions for 106 yards (7.6 average) and another score. Hester is a versatile fullback/tailback type that doesn't come close to looking the part of a NFL player and certainly not a fullback. He is vastly undersized as a fullback and he lacks the elite speed/elusiveness of a premier tailback. He runs unbelievably hard and seems to be an injury waiting to happen. However, Hester gives a great effort as an open-field blocker, he shows good initial burst and power as a potential change-of-pace (short-yardage) ball carrier in the NFL, and he has developed into a reliable underneath receiver. Hester plays the game with great intensity and he has the perfect mental makeup to contribute on special teams in the NFL. While he will never star in one area of the game, Hester finds many different ways to earn his keep, which is why he will likely reward a team for believing in him as a late-round pick.

[Rastak]

Bears on the clock....Manningham, Booty, Doucet? Caldwell?

[ND72]

So....what number does Brohm wear? Personally I was surprised that Rodgers stayed with 12 after Longwell left. NOW, you can bet if Aaron has any kind of ego, he'll stay with 12 forever

[Lurker64]

I'm not really sure why the Pats traded down there. At this point, you just get late round picks when you trade down and how many late round picks are going to make their roster? A high 3rd round guy might have a shot though.

[The Leaper]

Damn. The Chargers gave up a 2nd rounder next year to move up into the third round this year?

[Rastak]

Bears take WR Bennet:


trengths: Appears to read defenses well and locates seams when sees zone coverage. Footwork is sound, makes crisp cuts and gears down quickly when running comeback routes. Has adequate top-end speed and tracks the deep ball well. Shields defenders from the ball and can make tough catches in traffic. Tough and is fearless going over the middle. Shows good body control and can adjust to passes thrown behind him. Shows good sideline awareness and does a good job of keeping both feet in bounds. Can make the first defender miss, picks up yards after contact and can produce after the catch. Reads blocks well, shows good instincts as a runner and is effective when used on screens. Confident and wants the ball in key situations. Gets adequate hand placement, keeps feet moving and flashes the ability to sustain blocks. Has experience returning kickoffs as well as punts, has experience throwing the ball and is versatile.

Weaknesses: Doesn't have prototypical burst and is going to have a harder time separating from man coverage at the NFL level. Though generally snatches the ball out of the air, occasionally looks upfield before securing the ball and is vulnerable to dropping passes that should catch. Gets caught watching the play and needs to do a better job of working back to the quarterback when the protection starts to break down. Lacks great elusiveness, doesn't show a second gear when gets a seam and isn't much of a big-play threat after the catch. Takes poor angles to blocks and struggles to get into position as a result.

Overall: Bennett started seven of the 11 games he appeared in during his true freshman season in 2005 finishing with 79 catches, 876 receiving yards and nine receiving touchdowns. He also averaged 21.3 yards per kickoff return and 6.3 yards per punt return that year. In 2006, Bennett finished with 82 catches, 1,146 receiving yard and six receiving touchdowns. He also completed two passes including one touchdown-pass that year. Bennett played in all 12 games of the 2007 season finishing with 75 catches for 830 receiving yards and five receiving touchdowns. He also carried the ball ten times for total of 22 yards, averaged 14.4 yards on five punt returns and failed went 0-2 on passing attempts last year. Bennett doesn't have prototypical explosiveness but he's a fluid route runner who catches the ball well and produces after the catch. He's also a willing blocker and capable of contributing in the return game. Bennett should come off the board early on Day 2.

[CaliforniaCheez]

NE screwed San Diego.

[Rastak]

Damn. The Chargers gave up a 2nd rounder next year to move up into the third round this year?

And then drafted a damn fullback.

[red]

WOW the guys on nfln just love all these guys and picks

yet you'll never hear those names come out of their mouths before the picks

[Lurker64]

NE screwed San Diego.

Well, that's why NE did it then. I don't see "Tweener RB/FB" as a need for San Diego, but whatever.

[Gunakor]

Give Rodgers two years to prove him self. If he sucks trade/cut him, and Brohm by then is ready to go. If Rodgers is good, trade Brohm.

You make it sound like Packer fans will accept 2 shitty QB years. Now that Brohm is here, I doubt they'll accep 2 shitty quarters before screaming from the bleachers....

i think as soon as rodgers throws his first INT or loses his first game you're going to hear rumblings for brohm

They'll give Rodgers the full season barring injury. As many have mentioned in other threads, there is no way Brohm is going to come in and upseat Rodgers for the starting job in his rookie season.

He doesn't know the offense, but more importantly, he's not going to get enough reps in practice to learn the offense that quickly. Believe me, they are going to give Rodgers 90% of the practice reps now that he's been annointed the starter. Brohm just isn't going to get the reps needed to develop into a starter in his rookie year.

I have every faith in A-Rod, especially after the Dallas game. I also think I have the patience to stick to him while he learns the position.

But let's face it - Brett Favre has absolutely spoiled Packer fans and I don't see the paying public at Lambeau not scream for Brohm if A-Rod suckes.

Doesn't mean M3 benches the guy, just that the natives might get hostile.

The more ignorant Packers fans might. Point is that we should all just realize right here and now that A-Rod is NOT the next Brett Favre and niether is Brian Brohm. Brett Favre has retired. We aren't going to see him again - he's not going to come back wearing a different number.

We should temper our expectations. Most of all, we should remember what BRETT FAVRE looked like during his first year as a starter.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Damn. The Chargers gave up a 2nd rounder next year to move up into the third round this year?

And for a FB?

[The Leaper]

NE screwed San Diego.

Going to be some angry Chargers fans getting up in an hour...expecting to have a 5th round pick, but finding out they traded that and a 2009 second rounder for a FB.