Official 2008 NFL Draft thread Day 2

[twoseven]

I think we have picks 150 and 152


What are the odds that we keep them both ??

espn still has vikes at 152, if we had that one as well i wouldn't be venting on the trade as i am.

[Rastak]

Bears take CB Bowman:

Strengths: Possesses an outstanding combination of size and speed. Continues to improve his recognition skills with more experience and is a player with a lot of upside if he continues to develop. Has adequate upper body strength, shows the power to take receivers out of their routes using proper press-coverage technique and is able to match up with bigger receivers when left on an island. Aggressive, attacks the ball when it is in the air and displays above-average ball skills. Shows good leaping ability and times jumps well. Fills hard versus the run and shows enough size and strength to take on bigger blockers/ball carriers. Displays great upside on special teams, especially covering kicks and punts, and should make early contributions in that area.

Weaknesses: Missed the entire 2006 season and started just four games last year so lacks ideal playing experience. Still has room to improve in terms of footwork and technique and gets crossed over by quicker wide receivers on double moves. Will open his hips too early at times and is vulnerable to double moves. Despite having very good athleticism for size, a tad bit stiff in the hips and isn't as smooth as you would like when he's forced to turn and run with receivers. Gives good effort in run support but he must improve his consistency as an open-field tackler. Durability is also a pressing concern after missing the entire 2006 season with a torn ligament in his knee, tearing a tendon in his other knee during the offseason prior to 2007 and then missed time with a hamstring injury last year.

Overall: Bowman attended New Mexico Military Institute (Roswell, N.M.) in 2003 and 2004, recording 10 interceptions (two returned for touchdowns), 22 pass breakups and two forced fumbles on his way to being selected to the junior college All-America team. He transferred to Nebraska in 2005, playing in 11 games (five starts) and finishing the season with 27 tackles, two interceptions and 11 pass breakups. As a senior in 2007, he appeared in 11 games (four starts) and had 29 tackles (one for a loss), one interception and six pass breakups. Bowman missed the entire 2006 season because of a torn ACL in his left knee, and in March '07 he suffered a ruptured patella tendon in his right knee. He also missed one game in '05 because of a leg injury. There's a lot to like about Bowman's blend of speed, size and athletic ability but he is JUCO transfer who has had problems staying healthy the past two seasons so he doesn't have a great deal of experience and it shows at times. As a result, he projects as a sixth round pick.

[Rastak]

Cowboys trade up for CB Standrick:


Strengths: Displays very good speed and natural athleticism. Is fluid opening hips when forced to turn and run and appears comfortable playing close to the line of scrimmage. Stays disciplined, shows good awareness and rarely gets caught out of position. Has adequate ball skills and flashes the ability to make plays in coverage. Works from the snap until the whistle, takes sound angles to the ball and makes plays in pursuit. Was a durable and versatile playmaker at the mid-major FBS level of competition. Returned a blocked field goal attempt for a touchdown in 2005, returned a blocked point-after-attempt for a two-point conversion in 2005, returned a blocked point-after attempt for a two-point conversion in 2006, blocked four kicks in 2007 and has some experience returning kicks as well as punts.

Weaknesses: Inconsistent in coverage. Plays too high when backpedaling and will take too long getting in and out. Was a bit more aggressive as a junior but still too much of a finesse corner. Gets pushed around and allows bigger WR's to dictate routes. Doesn't deliver a powerful punch and is going to have harder time slowing NFL receivers down at the line of scrimmage. Lacks elite size, doesn't get under blockers' pads and takes too long to shed blocks. Is an adequate drag-down tackler but doesn't always break down into a sound tackling position and isn't going to deliver many big hits. Leaves his feet too often as an open-field tackle, tries to cut guys instead of breaking down, getting square and wrapping up. A workout warrior but doesn't play with quite the speed and explosiveness.

Overall: Scandrick started 12 of the 13 games he appeared in during his true freshman season in 2005 finishing with 50 tackles including 41 unassisted tackles and three tackles-for-loss. He also recorded an interception, 11 pass breakups, one sack and one forced fumble. Scandrick started all 13 games of the 2006 season finishing with 52 total tackles including 6.5 tackles-for-loss. He also recorded an interception, six pass breakups, two sacks and two forced fumbles that year. Scandrick started all 13 games of the 2007 season finishing with 50 total tackles including 36 unassisted tackles and three tackles-for-loss. He also recorded two interceptions, seven pass breakups, half a sack, two forced fumbles and four blocked kicks. Scandrick is still a work in progress. He needs to improve his footwork and become more consistent in terms of his reads. He lacks ideal strength and needs to continue to become more physical both in coverage and in run support. However, he is an outstanding natural athlete with the intelligence to improve. As a result, Scandrick is worth the risk in the mid-to-late portion of the 2008 draft.

[Rastak]

So can anyone confirm the terms of the historic Vikes-Packers trade?

[Rastak]

Saints take DT Pressley:


Strengths: Possesses an outstanding combination of size and speed. He is tall with adequate bulk and room left on his frame to get bigger. He has been versatile within a hybrid system that allows him to play traditional DT, as well as the DE spot in three-and-four man fronts. At his best when playing a three-technique, which allows him to use his quick first step and explosive burst to penetrate and disrupt. He shows rare closing burst to the ball carrier (and QB) for a prospect at his position. He is powerful in the upper body. Generally drives legs once in position and flashes the ability to drive offensive linemen back into the quarterback as a bull rusher.

Weaknesses: Lacks elite bulk, plays too high and struggles to hold the point when teams run at him. Plays with a narrow base and loses balance at times. His effort can be hit and miss and needs to play with better discipline. Gets frustrated by the double team and will give up too easily at times. Gets too far upfield because he's looking to make the big play and occasionally will blow his assignment and take himself out of position. Missed two games after undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery in 2007, missed timed with a broken wrist in 2006, missed 2007 spring practices because of a toe injury and durability is a concern.

Overall: Pressley appeared in 33 games (24 starts) in his first three seasons (2004-'06), recording 102 tackles (14 for losses) and three sacks. As a senior last season, he played 10 games (eight starts) and had 38 tackles (six for losses), 1.5 sacks and two interceptions. In 2007, he came off the bench in the opener while still recovering from torn ligaments in his left elbow, then missed the next two games after tearing meniscus tissue in his right knee in practice. In 2006, he sat out most of spring drills because of a broken toe and missed the season finale after suffering a wrist injury that required season-ending surgery. Pressley will enter the 2008 draft as one of the most experienced defensive tackles in the class and his blend of size and speed means he has a great deal of upside. However, he's yet to reach his potential and his problems staying healthy over the past two years raise a red flag. With all of that said, Pressley projects as a fourth round pick.

[Fosco33]

How about Lynch - S from App State?

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/corey-lynch?id=4273

[Rastak]

I thought everyone left in disgust......LOL

[Rastak]

Lions trade down.

[Fosco33]

So can anyone confirm the terms of the historic Vikes-Packers trade?

5-137 To Minnesota Vikings for Nos. 150 & 209. Originaly from St. Louis Rams with No. 217 for No. 128.

[GoPackGo]

So can anyone confirm the terms of the historic Vikes-Packers trade?

it would appear that the Pack moved down to the 15th in the 5th round and gained the Vikings 10th pick in the 7th round

[Gunakor]

So can anyone confirm the terms of the historic Vikes-Packers trade?

We gave up #137 for #150 and #209 is what it looks like.

[packers11]

packers get 5-150/7-209 for the spot the vikings moved up for : 5-137

[Rastak]

I would have thought they would have gotten more. I like the trade from the Vikings standpoint.

[Gunakor]

So can anyone confirm the terms of the historic Vikes-Packers trade?

it would appear that the Pack moved down to the 15th in the 5th round and gained the Vikings 10th pick in the 7th round

Nope the Queens gave us the 2nd pick in the 7th round.

[Carolina_Packer]

who gives a shit? who gives a shit about adding another 7th round pick while we are allowing the vikings to pick up a QB they weren't smart enough to nab in round 2. count me as another that thinks this was stupid. if booty is kicking our ass down the road someday, i hope the extra pick in the seventh round was worth it.

Wouldn't they have just called the next team in line?

who's to say they didn't and were refused.

so, m now it's wrong to play a little draft defense in your own division?

I'm really surpirsed they made the deal too, I'm only saying that the Vikings easily could have still moved up.

Exactly, Ras. If not the Packers, then they might have found someone else to trade with, so glass half full, we were the ones to get the extra pick, and the Vikes might have gotten their guy anyway.