Official 2008 NFL Draft thread Day 2

[Fosco33]

Seems like 'Packer' people... as he did a Q&A on ESPN. Another S - from Army. I'd take him or Lynch.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/caleb-campbell?id=1687

[digitaldean]

Add me to the Owen Schmitt bandwagon. Would be a nice addition to depth at FB

[GoPackGo]

So can anyone confirm the terms of the historic Vikes-Packers trade?

it would appear that the Pack moved down to the 15th in the 5th round and gained the Vikings 10th pick in the 7th round

Nope the Queens gave us the 2nd pick in the 7th round.

I think the Rams gave us that pic

[Bretsky]

I thought everyone left in disgust......LOL

I am a bit disgusted

What the heck did we get from the purple ?

[Gunakor]

So can anyone confirm the terms of the historic Vikes-Packers trade?

it would appear that the Pack moved down to the 15th in the 5th round and gained the Vikings 10th pick in the 7th round

Nope the Queens gave us the 2nd pick in the 7th round.

I think the Rams gave us that pic

Nope, the Rams traded it to the Queens, then the Queens traded it to us

[texaspackerbacker]

This new deal with the military academies could really rejuvenate Army, Navy, Air Force football. They could get big time H.S. recruits again.

I'd like to see the Packers get this guy, Campbell.

[twoseven]

who gives a shit? who gives a shit about adding another 7th round pick while we are allowing the vikings to pick up a QB they weren't smart enough to nab in round 2. count me as another that thinks this was stupid. if booty is kicking our ass down the road someday, i hope the extra pick in the seventh round was worth it.

Wouldn't they have just called the next team in line?

who's to say they didn't and were refused.

so, m now it's wrong to play a little draft defense in your own division?

I'm really surpirsed they made the deal too, I'm only saying that the Vikings easily could have still moved up.

Exactly, Ras. If not the Packers, then they might have found someone else to trade with, so glass half full, we were the ones to get the extra pick, and the Vikes might have gotten their guy anyway.

Hey, then let them try.

We didn't. And all we got for it was a seventh round pick after we slid 14 spots from 137.

[Rastak]

Bengels take DT Jason "don't call me" Shirley:



Strengths: Massive prospect with an exceptional combination of height and bulk. Displays outstanding quickness and mobility for his size but only when he's fresh. Flashes some power at the point of attack and can use powerful bull rush to collapse the pocket. Flashes an effective swim move and shows good closing burst once he gets through the line of scrimmage. Has rare upside if he's dedicated to improving his conditioning and technique. Has shown a knack for blocking kicks throughout his career at Fresno State and can contribute on special teams.

Weaknesses: Is a raw prospect with below average technique. Conditioning and stamina are poor. He wears down too quickly and winds up taking too many plays off when tired. He will look sluggish coming out of his stance and he loses most of his power when he fails to play with leverage. He has a history of cramping up and not finishing games. Suffered an injury midway through 2005 that limited him during the second half of that season, sustained a concussion in 2007 and durability is a concern. Suspended two games for conduct detrimental to the team in late August, suspended from school in October following an arrest on suspicion of driving under the influence, reinstated in mid November but dismissed from team after getting cited for suspicion of driving with a suspended license and expired registration and appeared in only three games during senior season so character is clearly a concern.

Overall: Shirley arrived at Fresno State in 2003 and redshirted the year. In his first three seasons (2004-'06), he appeared in 32 games (13 starts) and recorded 50 tackles (11 for losses) and four sacks. In 2005, he missed two games (and was limited in others) by an injury. In 2007, he played three games and had seven tackles (three for losses), 1.5 sacks and a forced fumble. Shirley lost most of his senior season to a leg injury; a two-game suspension for a violation of team rules; and, ultimately, a dismissal from the team in November, after his arrest for suspicion of DUI. Shirley is a massive nose tackle prospect with impressive mobility for his size but while he flashes spectacular upside, he is still extremely raw and inconsistent. In addition, there are now legitimate concerns that he could become a locker room distraction. As a result, Shirley projects as a late round pick or rookie free agent.

[Lurker64]

I thought everyone left in disgust......LOL

I am a bit disgusted

What the heck did we get from the purple ?

#150 and #209. Considering that we just took Sitton in the fourth, it's fairly obvious that we don't think really highly of any of the rest of the guys on the board. I think that Thompson is just going to treat 7th rounders like lottery tickets at this point.

Either that or TT got nervous when he read JH's concern that TT wasn't going to have 11 guys this year, and decided that whatever it took he would get back to double digits.

[Rastak]

Lions take FB Felton:


Strengths: Locates seams quickly, runs low to the ground and is an effective between-the-tackles runner. Doesn't dance in the backfield, rarely gets brought down behind the line of scrimmage and has a nose for the end zone when gets close to the goal line. Shows excellent leg drive and can push the pile in short-yardage situations. Stays balanced, bounces off arm tackles and rarely goes down with the first hit. Shows good vision, has adequate lateral mobility and can cutback when sees the defense over pursue. Plays with a mean streak and flashes a powerful initial punch as a lead blocker. Plays under control in space and can adjust to the moving target at the second level. Keeps head up, shows good awareness and can pick up the blitz when asked to help out in pass protection. Snatches the ball out of the air and rarely drops passes that should catch.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal explosiveness and is going to have a difficult time turning the corner at the NFL level. Doesn't have breakaway speed and isn't much of a threat to go the distance when gets a seam. Though has improved in this area, doesn't always protect the football and can put it on the ground. Lacks ideal body control, has some problem adjusting to passes thrown outside of frame and doesn't do a great job of tracking the ball downfield. Lacks ideal size, hasn't shown elite lower body strength and is going to have some problems rooting defenders out of the hole. Has improved in this area as well but doesn't always get good hand placement and plays with a narrow base so has some problems sustaining blocks. Played at a small school and there are concerns about ability to make jump to the NFL level. Tough and appears to quickly bounce back from injuries but missed the 2006 Appalachian State game with a high-ankle sprain, had arthroscopic surgery on left knee in February of 2007 and durability is a concern.

Overall: Felton became a starter in the seventh game of his freshman season (2004) and missed only one game in four years at Furman (as a junior), starting 43 of 49 games. He finished his career with 575 carries, 2,652 yards (4.6 average) and an astounding 63 touchdowns. He added 46 receptions for 334 yards (7.3 average) and four more TDs. Felton sat out a game in 2006 after suffering a high right ankle sprain, and he underwent arthroscopic surgery on his left knee in February 2007 but didn't miss any playing time as a result. : Felton is a small-school prospect who isn't a dominant lead blocker or an explosive runner. However, he is an excellent short-yardage runner, a tough blocker and a dependable receiver out of that backfield. That versatility should make him a late-round pick.

[Chubbyhubby]

This new deal with the military academies could really rejuvenate Army, Navy, Air Force football. They could get big time H.S. recruits again.

I'd like to see the Packers get this guy, Campbell.

I agree we should pick this guy up!

[Rastak]

Are you guys sure there wasn;t a next year pick in that Vikes-Pack trade? Is it absolutely confirmed that those are the terms?

[digitaldean]

Here's Sitton's bio from Cent. FL's website:
2007: Made the start at right tackle in the first six games of the season ... Moved to left guard for the Tulsa game (Oct. 20) ... Got the start at right guard at Southern Miss (Oct. 28), vs. Marshall (Nov. 3) and at UAB (Nov. 10) ... Moved over to right tackle in a start at SMU (Nov. 17) and vs. UTEP (Nov. 24).

2006: Started all 12 games at right tackle for the Knights and has made 25-consecutive starts there since the season opener in 2005.

2005: Starter in all 13 games at right tackle for the Golden Knights ... graded out as one of the top linemen on the squad.

2004: Made collegiate debut at No. 21 Wisconsin (Sept. 4) at right guard ... starter at right guard for four games ... one of six lineman to letter on the offensive line in 2004.
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Assuming they took him because of his versatility to play guard or tackle

[Rastak]

Bills take LB Bowen:


Strengths: Displays excellent instincts, has greatly improved at reading keys and generally locates the ball carrier quickly. Reaches top-speed quickly, aggressive and makes plays in the backfield. Takes outstanding pursuit angles, does a fine job of using hands to get through traffic, never gives up and always seems to be around the ball at the end of the play. Solid wrap-up tackler with better power than size suggests, tries to strip the ball in pursuit and can generate fumbles. Gets a deep drop in zone coverage and has average range. Does a good job of reading quarterbacks' eyes and generally picks up on screen passes very early. More fluid opening hips than most linebackers, shows good burst coming out of cuts and has excellent short-area man-to-man cover skills. Has adequate not great ball skills and flashes the ability to make big plays in coverage. Progressed at the collegiate level and should only get better with added experience. Possesses the tackling skills and toughness to make a significant impact covering kicks in the NFL and should make immediate contributions on special teams.

Weaknesses: Possesses adequate height but needs to get bigger and improve his overall strength. Lacks ideal lower body strength and isn't stout so needs to be on the move to be successful. Gets engulfed too easily at the point of attack and struggles to hold up in the phone booth. Has some trouble bringing down taller ball carriers at times and needs to do a better job of tackling low. Lacks ideal top-end speed and is going to have some problems running with NFL tight ends and backs. Too small to play an every-down role at linebacker at this point and probably isn't fast enough to move safety. Can be a bit undisciplined and occasionally takes himself out of plays because he's trying to avoid bigger blockers.

Overall: Bowen enrolled at Garden City (N.J.) CC in 2003, redshirting his first year and leading the team in tackles and tackles for loss in his first and only season. After transferring to Iowa State, he appeared in 24 games over his first two seasons (2005-'06), collecting 188 tackles (seven for losses), two sacks and an interception. (He led the nation in tackles per game--12.9--as a junior.) In 2007, Bowen started all 12 games and finished the season with 99 tackles (12.5 for losses), two sacks, five forced fumbles, and an interception. Bowen is an undersized weak-side linebacker prospect with very good athleticism, instincts, quickness and toughness. However, he needs to bulk up and increase his overall strength. In addition, he's quicker than fast and his lack of prototypical top-end speed is going to be exposed more at the NFL level. Bowen should come off the 2008 draft board in the middle rounds.

[gbgary]

Here's Sitton's bio from Cent. FL's website:
2007: Made the start at right tackle in the first six games of the season ... Moved to left guard for the Tulsa game (Oct. 20) ... Got the start at right guard at Southern Miss (Oct. 28), vs. Marshall (Nov. 3) and at UAB (Nov. 10) ... Moved over to right tackle in a start at SMU (Nov. 17) and vs. UTEP (Nov. 24).

2006: Started all 12 games at right tackle for the Knights and has made 25-consecutive starts there since the season opener in 2005.

2005: Starter in all 13 games at right tackle for the Golden Knights ... graded out as one of the top linemen on the squad.

2004: Made collegiate debut at No. 21 Wisconsin (Sept. 4) at right guard ... starter at right guard for four games ... one of six lineman to letter on the offensive line in 2004.
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Assuming they took him because of his versatility to play guard or tackle

the Packers OL coach just LOVES the guy!! said they had him in for a visit and he really impressed them.