Official 2008 NFL Draft thread Day 2

[cpk1994]

Mort on ESPN reported that the Packers offered Daute Culpepper a contract.

Very interesting....

I know there are detractors, but he'd be injury insurance. We are a hit or two away from the super unknown. Culpepper is not going to wet his pants under center or dropping back and if he's all the way back and healthy, actually might make some good throws.

Yeah, if he can hold on to the ball.

[digitaldean]

Mort on ESPN reported that the Packers offered Daute Culpepper a contract.

Very interesting....

So Brohm would be the #3? I suppose they do want someone with experience if A-Rod goes down. But I am leery of his ball handling skills (not to mention his decision making ability the last few seasons).

Be interesting to see if he takes it. Don't see a lot of suitors after him.

[Rastak]

Mort on ESPN reported that the Packers offered Daute Culpepper a contract.

Very interesting....

I know there are detractors, but he'd be injury insurance. We are a hit or two away from the super unknown. Culpepper is not going to wet his pants under center or dropping back and if he's all the way back and healthy, actually might make some good throws.

His problem is his crappy decisions. His speed bailed him out quite a bit but when he lost that he became extremely average.

[Rastak]

Bears take TE Davis (finally off the board):


Strengths: Has adequate foot speed and can get a clean release when linebackers or ends try to jam him. Doesn't have great explosiveness but changes directions well and can get open against man coverage. Appears to read defenses fairly well and can locate soft spot when sees zone. Has the wide frame to shield defenders from the ball, is tall enough to compete for jump balls and has the potential to develop into a productive red zone target. Has good top-end speed, turns head to locate the ball without slowing down and can work the seam. Inconsistent in this area but gets adequate hand placement, plays with a wide base and flashes the ability to sustain blocks. Takes adequate angles to blocks, shows good body control in space and can get into position at the second level. Keeps head up and can pick up the blitz when asked to help out in pass protection. Has experience covering kicks and can contribute on special teams.

Weaknesses: Plays too high, hasn't shown great lower body strength and rarely drives defenders off the ball. Footwork is inconsistent, rounds off some cuts off and is an inconsistent route runner at this point. Lacks ideal instincts and doesn't always work back to the quarterback when the protection starts to break down. Arraigned on misdemeanor assault charges in October of 2006, Michigan State suspended from the team for four games and character is a concern.

Overall: In his first three seasons at Michigan State (2004-06), Davis appeared in 30 games (10 starts) and recorded 28 catches for 276 yards (9.9 average) and three touchdowns. As a senior, he grabbed 28 receptions for 475 yards and five touchdowns (plus five rushing attempts for 39 yards) in 13 games. He was suspended for four games in 2006 following an off-campus incident in which he was charged with misdemeanor assault. Davis isn't a fundamentally sound drive blocker or route runner at this point but he has the skill set to develop into a quality starter at the NFL level. He emerged as a viable red zone target during his senior season, he can make the occasional downfield catch and he has the frame to develop into an effective in-line blocker. Keeping all of that in mind, Davis projects as a late-fourth or early-fifth round pick.

[GrnBay007]

Culpepper is not going to wet his pants under center

[Badgerinmaine]

SI.com on Giacomini:
BIOGRAPHY: Former tight end who moved into the starting lineup at tackle last season.

POSITIVES: King-sized blocker with terrific upside. Plays with a good degree of quickness, strong at the point, and holds his ground. Effectively fights with his hands, keeps his feet moving, and flashes the ability to slide out laterally.

NEGATIVES: Haphazard in his movements and must improve his blocking balance. Does not get much movement as a run-blocker and leans on opponents.

ANALYSIS: Giacomini is a hard-working player who showed great improvement last season. He still needs work on his game, yet he is a solid middle-round pick who could develop into a starter two years down the road.

[Carolina_Packer]

Mort on ESPN reported that the Packers offered Daute Culpepper a contract.

Very interesting....

So Brohm would be the #3? I suppose they do want someone with experience if A-Rod goes down. But I am leery of his ball handling skills (not to mention his decision making ability the last few seasons).

Be interesting to see if he takes it. Don't see a lot of suitors after him.

Risk/Reward both ways. We are on risky ground. He's undervalued because of two sub-par seasons after an injury re-hab. He hasn't forgotten everything he learned about being a QB. If he's physically able to go and compete, why not have that insurance policy. Are there a lot of better options? Byron Leftwich? Tim Rattay? Nall?

[ND72]

Mort on ESPN reported that the Packers offered Daute Culpepper a contract.

Very interesting....

So Brohm would be the #3? I suppose they do want someone with experience if A-Rod goes down. But I am leery of his ball handling skills (not to mention his decision making ability the last few seasons).

Be interesting to see if he takes it. Don't see a lot of suitors after him.

Brohm should be the #3 QB this season. We should be looking to get a vetran QB to backup Rodgers, and let Brohm sit and watch to learn. Give him a clipboad and a head set.

[Rastak]

Jax takes Trae Williams:


Strengths: Uses hands fairly well, is physical and makes it difficult to get a clean release when lined up close to the line of scrimmage. Opens hips well and shows good top-end speed when tracking the ball downfield. Gets knee bend in backpedal, closes well is an adequate open field tackler that generally wraps up upon contact. Expected to line up at running back or receiver when enrolled at South Florida, catches the ball well and is a playmaker in coverage. Can line up on the outside or over the slot receiver and is somewhat versatile. Returned punts at the high school level, can return kickoffs, blocked a punt last year, has experience covering kicks and should contribute on special teams.

Weaknesses: Avoids blockers rather than stacking them up, ducks head too much and isn't great in run support. Though rarely bites on play action, rarely fills hard when reads run. Lacks elite size and may not be as effective jamming receivers at the NFL level. Lacks ideal awareness and doesn't always get head turned around in time to locate passes thrown over shoulder. Vulnerable to double moves and lacks the second gear to consistently recover when gets caught out of position.

Overall: Williams arrived at South Florida in 2003 as a running back / wide receiver and was redshirted. He was them moved to cornerback where he appeared in 36 contests starting 32 of them and posting 110 total tackles, 0.5 tackles for loss, 10 interceptions, and 12 pass breakups during his first three seasons (2004-'06). Williams also returned 15 kickoffs for 300 yards (20 average) from 2004-'06. Williams has the athletic ability, burst and ball skills to develop into an adequate sub-package corner and a valuable special teams' contributor. However, he doesn't defend the run well and he's vulnerable to getting beat deep when left on an island.

[Rastak]

Mort on ESPN reported that the Packers offered Daute Culpepper a contract.

Very interesting....

So Brohm would be the #3? I suppose they do want someone with experience if A-Rod goes down. But I am leery of his ball handling skills (not to mention his decision making ability the last few seasons).

Be interesting to see if he takes it. Don't see a lot of suitors after him.

Brohm should be the #3 QB this season. We should be looking to get a vetran QB to backup Rodgers, and let Brohm sit and watch to learn. Give him a clipboad and a head set.

The only way to go.

[oregonpackfan]

Rams take G Schuening after trading up:





Overall: Schuening arrived at Oregon State in 2003 and redshirted the season. Over the next four years (2004-06), he played and started in 50 consecutive games, a school record. Because of injuries, he started the Ducks' last four games at right tackle.

. That's why we think Schuening is worth the risk as early as Round 3.

This reviewer is correct in that Schuening played for Oregon State but then he says Schuening started the "Ducks'" last 4 games at RT. Oregon State uses the nickname "Beavers." The "Ducks" are the nickname for Oregon.

[digitaldean]

Mort on ESPN reported that the Packers offered Daute Culpepper a contract.

Very interesting....

So Brohm would be the #3? I suppose they do want someone with experience if A-Rod goes down. But I am leery of his ball handling skills (not to mention his decision making ability the last few seasons).

Be interesting to see if he takes it. Don't see a lot of suitors after him.

Risk/Reward both ways. We are on risky ground. He's undervalued because of two sub-par seasons after an injury re-hab. He hasn't forgotten everything he learned about being a QB. If he's physically able to go and compete, why not have that insurance policy. Are there a lot of better options? Byron Leftwich? Tim Rattay? Nall?

No I'd say he's the best in the proverbial barrel of rotten apples. Leftwich can have his release timed with a sundial. Rattay couldn't hit the broadside of a barn if he was standing 10 yards from it. Nall is a non-factor.

[Lurker64]

So Brohm would be the #3? I suppose they do want someone with experience if A-Rod goes down. But I am leery of his ball handling skills (not to mention his decision making ability the last few seasons).

Be interesting to see if he takes it. Don't see a lot of suitors after him.

Brohm was already the #3 when he was drafted, we just didn't have a #2. Since our starter has very little experience, Rodgers is almost certainly going to get all the reps with the first team guys in practice. So Brohm isn't going to get many reps this year, because Rodgers needs them and this is not a competition yet. After a year, Rodgers will have a ton more experience than he does now and McCarthy can give more reps to Brohm, so he can become a #2.

But as pro-ready as he is, he wasn't going to be the #2 this year.

Now who wants to contribute to the "Buy Rastak a Green and Gold Culpepper Jersey" fund?

[Badgerinmaine]

This reviewer is correct in that Schuening played for Oregon State but then he says Schuening started the "Ducks'" last 4 games at RT. Oregon State uses the nickname "Beavers." The "Ducks" are the nickname for Oregon.

Oh, after a few beers, all those semi-aquatic animals start looking alike

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