Official 2008 NFL Draft thread Day 2

[MadtownPacker]

Im just jumping on, what was the trade?

Packers sent the Vikes a 5th so they could move up and take QB John David Booty....the packers moved back a few spots and got the #2 pick in round 7.

We got burned.

[pbmax]

whoops, forgot the posting of jsonline stuff here.

What about their blogs, Mad? OR does it have to be a link?

[Packnut]

Trade

Im just jumping on, what was the trade?

Packers sent the Vikes a 5th so they could move up and take QB John David Booty....the packers moved back a few spots and got the #2 pick in round 7.

We got burned.

Ah yes we did. More like SCORCHED!

[Rastak]

Here is what the star tribune said....I kept thinking there was a future pick but it appears not:

Vikings trade up to take QB
April 27th, 2008 – 12:44 PM by Judd Zulgad

It isn’t often the Vikings and Packers make a trade but it happened today.

The Vikings acquired the second pick of the fifth round (No. 137 overall) so they could take Southern Cal quarterback John David Booty. This is the developmental-type QB that coach Brad Childress had talked about adding to the roster. The Vikings gave up a seventh-round pick to Green Bay (No. 209) and surrendered pick No. 150 overall in the fifth round. Minnesota still has pick No. 152 in the fifth round. That one was acquired from the Eagles.

[theeaterofshades]

Caleb Campbell

Caleb Campbell S Army.... Chances he'll be there in the 7th?

[Rastak]

RB Parmele to Phins:

Strengths: Displays good patience along with solid vision when running between the tackles. Shows sound lateral movement near the line of scrimmage, finds cutback lanes and does a nice job of getting vertical after cuts. Displays natural ability to turn shoulder pads and get skinny when running through small openings. Does a sound job of keeping his feet churning upon contact and will fall forward to end runs. Finishes runs along boundary turning upfield for extra yards instead of dipping out of bounds. Shows good balance and shakes off would-be arm tacklers. Stays alert, plays with a mean streak and can cut blitzing linebackers to the ground when asked to help out in pass protection. Snatches the ball out of the air and isn't going to drop many passes that should catch. Has experience returning kickoffs, has flashed big-play potential in that role and can contribute on special teams.

Weaknesses: Lacks prototypical power for a back with his size and is going to have problems pushing the pile in short-yardage situations. Isn't quick enough to turn the corner with any consistency in the NFL and lacks the second gear to outrun defenders when gets into space. Takes too long to change directions and isn't going to make many defenders. Lacks suddenness and isn't elusive enough to make defenders miss in the open field. Puts the ball on the ground too much and needs to work on pressure points as a ball carrier. Does not run efficient routes and will have trouble separating from man coverage at the next level.

Overall: In his first two seasons at Toledo (2004-'05), Parmele appeared in 20 games as a reserve. He ran for 477 yards and six touchdowns on 106 carries (4.5 average) and eight receptions for 65 yards. As a junior in 2006, Parmele became the Rockets' starter, gaining 1,131 rushing yards and eight touchdowns on 207 carries (5.5 average) and adding 16 receptions for 128 yards (8.0 average) in 12 games. He topped that performance last season, averaging 125.9 rushing yards in 12 games (good for ninth in the country). He ran for a total of 1,511 yards and 14 touchdowns on 276 carries (5.5 average) as a senior, adding 17 receptions for 157 yards (9.2 average) and a touchdown. Parmele also had a career 25 kickoff returns for 628 yards (25.1 average) and a TD. Although he is big and runs with purpose, Parmele lacks the overall power, speed and athleticism to be a featured back at the next level. With a few years of development he has the potential to be a number three back and should be able to contribute on special teams. This is why Parmele projects as a late round pick or rookie free agent.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I have no opinion. I'm pretty indifferent on John David Booty.

[Rastak]

Bengals take S Lynch:

Strengths: Physical, shows adequate upper body strength and can reroute receivers. Gets good knee bend in backpedal and shows adequate burst getting out of it. Appears to read routes well and shows good awareness in zone coverage. Aggressive and jumps routes. Has excellent ball skills and is a playmaker. Plays with a mean streak and fills hard when reads run. Has active hands and flashes the ability to shed blocks. Plays with a good motor and is a sideline-to-sideline run defender. Wraps up and is a reliable open field tackler. Blocked three kicks last year, blocked three kicks in 2006 and can contribute on special teams.

Weaknesses: Stiff in the hips when forced to turn and run, doesn't have the second gear or long arms to recover when gets caught in a trail position and can get beat deep when left on an island. Adequate but not great quickness and is going to have some problems matching up with slot receivers in man coverage. Tall enough to bulk up frame a bit but lacks prototypical size and can get engulfed when lines up in the box. Fractured left elbow in during the second game of the 2004-season, had two screws inserted during surgery to repair the elbow and took a medical red-shirt that year. Fractured right arm during the 2006-season and missed two games. Played at a small school and there is some concern about ability to adjust to the speed of the game at the NFL level.

Overall: Lynch arrived at Appalachian State in 2003 and was named a started by the second game of his freshman year. In his first three full seasons (2003, '05-06), he appeared in 39 games (38 starts) and compiled 234 tackles (7.5 for losses), 17 interceptions, 17 pass breakups, three forced fumbles, three blocked kicks and two touchdowns (one returned block, one returned fumble). In 2004, he started the first two games (13 tackles, one interception, one forced fumble) before suffering a season-ending elbow injury that led to surgery and a medical redshirt year. As a senior in 2007, Lynch started all 15 games at free safety and was selected as the Southern Conference's Defensive Player of the Year. He finished the season with 111 tackles (three for losses), one forced fumble, 11 pass breakups, six interceptions (including one he returned for a touchdown) and three blocked kicks. Lynch also missed two games in 2006 because of a right ulnar fracture. Lynch is a small-school prospect who has some durability concerns and doesn't have great natural ability so he projects as a seventh round pick or rookie free agent. However, Lynch could prove to be a great value there because he's a tough run defender, he's a playmaker in coverage and he's shown a knack for blocking kicks on special teams.

[theeaterofshades]

Re: Trade

Im just jumping on, what was the trade?

Packers sent the Vikes a 5th so they could move up and take QB John David Booty....the packers moved back a few spots and got the #2 pick in round 7.

We got burned.

Ah yes we did. More like SCORCHED!

We should have gotten one of their 6ths instead of the 7th

[Rastak]

I have no opinion. I'm pretty indifferent on John David Booty.

People here were irritated that any trade was made with Minnesota. Booty is a #3 and my thought is the Vikes could have traded with the team after GB anyway.

[Bretsky]

Saints just took the Badgers Kicker

[woodbuck27]

I liked the draft through the first 5 picks (especially Brohm, Lee, and Thompson), but these guys that don't even have a bio haven't exactly worked out. I think Tony Moll, Dave Tollefson, Mike Hawkins, and Kurt Campbell were the other guys that Thompson drafted that didn't even have a bio. Moll has been surprising, but just a good backup. The other three haven't done anything. I know that's not normally, but it just gives me a sinking feeling--especially taking them in the 5th round.

Here YOU go Harvey:

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/rankings/te.html

7. Kellen Davis Michigan St. 6-6 262 4.60
8. Martin Rucker Missouri 6-43/4 251 4.71
9. Jermichael Finley Texas 6-4 253 4.82
10. Jacob Tamme Kentucky 6-31/2 236 4.58

Jermichael Finley Height: 6-4 | Weight: 253 | 40-Time: 4.82

Official Bio

Strengths:

Has great height with the frame to get even bigger...Very athletic...Decent timed speed and quickness...Has soft, reliable hands and great ball skills...Good leaping ability and body control...Can do some damage after the catch...Gives pretty good effort as a blocker...Hard worker with terrific intangibles...Still has a ton of upside.

Weaknesses:

Really needs to bulk up and get stronger...Does not display much power...Sub par blocker who doesn't get much of a push...Can improve as a route runner...He isn't fundamentally sound and needs technique work...Doesn't have much experience.

Notes:

Surprise early-entry who came out after his redshirt sophomore season...

Caught 4 passes for 149 yards and a touchdown against Oklahoma in 2007...
Still raw and is basically a one-dimensional pass catcher right now...

Has the physical tools and talent to ultimately be one of the best tight ends to come out of this draft but will require some patience...

He'll be chosen based more on potential than production.

Career Statistics
Year GP Rec Yds YPC TD
2005 DNP - - - -
2006 13 31 372 12.0 3

2007 13 45 575 12.8 2

Totals 26 76 947 12.5 5

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Defensive End | Senior | Wake Forest Jeremy Thompson
Height: 6-43/8 | Weight: 264 | 40-Time: 4.75

Official Bio

Strengths:

Has a cut physique with the frame to get even bigger...Long arms...A smooth and fluid athlete...Good strength...Has a good motor and does a nice job in pursuit...Is stout at the point of attack and does an excellent job against the run...Real smart with terrific awareness...Has some potential in coverage...

Versatile..A hard worker with good intangibles...Had his best season as a senior and still has some upside.

Weaknesses:

Has decent timed speed but isn't very explosive...Lacks a burst to close...Is not a great natural pass rusher...Doesn't use his hands well...Not overly physical...Does not play with a nasty demeanor and may lack a killer instinct...Marginal production and was a bit of a one year wonder...Has some durability issues...Underachiever?

Notes:

Could be a base end in a 4-3 scheme, a 3-4 end or a 3-4 outside linebacker...

Tore his ACL in 2005 and dealt with a shoulder injury in 2006...

Late emerging prospect who really began to pick up a lot of momentum in scouting circles late in the 2007 season...

Might never be a star or a double-digit sack guy at the next level but his versatility and promise will make him a relatively valuable commodity on Draft Day.

Career Statistics

Year GP TKL TFL SACK

2004 11 15 3.0 1.0
2005 8 21 2.0 0.0
2006 14 30 4.5 1.0
2007 13 46 11.0 6.5
Totals 46 112 20.5 8.5

PACKERS FOREVER!

[Rastak]

No bio on the kicker.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I have no opinion. I'm pretty indifferent on John David Booty.

People here were irritated that any trade was made with Minnesota. Booty is a #3 and my thought is the Vikes could have traded with the team after GB anyway.

I equate ut to fantasy sports. Some guys don't like to trade with another team if they think the trade helps the other one out (maybe that team needs a closer and you have extra). I don't care. I'll make a trade that helps my team. If I'm helping the other team, so be it. There are 8-10 teams that didn't get helped. Make sense? Now, if it was some stud starter we were trading, that would be different, but shuffling around late round picks doesn't get my panties in a bunch.

[Carolina_Packer]

I have no opinion. I'm pretty indifferent on John David Booty.

People here were irritated that any trade was made with Minnesota. Booty is a #3 and my thought is the Vikes could have traded with the team after GB anyway.

I would agree. Looking at it from GB's POV, we got an extra pick to switch.