Official 2008 NFL Draft thread Day 2

[digitaldean]

QB Woodson to the Giants

[HarveyWallbangers]

Finley's highlight reel didn't look that impressive to me. And he doesn't look 6-4 and 1/2 either.

Take a look at this video. First play when he walks back to the huddle, he looks pretty damn tall. Close to the same size as the OL, and much bigger than the other guys.

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/nfldraftteam.asp?Team=23

[Gunakor]

Woodson taken at #198..... Tom Brady was taken at #199

[Rastak]

Giants take DE Henderson: - No Bio

[Fosco33]

Colts have 3 of the next 5 picks... guess they need some bodies.

[Rastak]

Hey Lurker, were you thinking Alabama State?


Jaymar is a 4.34 5'11 speed guy. Mayock said he caught everything thrown him at the combine. I guess they liked what they saw for a late round flyer.

[Rastak]

Eagles take LB Mays NDSU: (Hey Harv, give us the low down).....no Bio

[Fosco33]

Well, Lynch went to the Bengals - he could be a surprise safety.

I'm hoping for Campbell (S-Army) with one of the 7ths.

[Deputy Nutz]

Too many projects for my taste. I esspecially don't like using a 2nd on a project at CB. That's why you bring in guys like Tramon Williams - projects that don't cost anything.

Why is he a project? This is your one opinion and you seem to really stick to it. I think I have heard you mention it 10 or 15 times already.

[The Leaper]

Maybe Thompson takes a punter to give Ryan some competition?

[BallHawk]

New York likes Kentucky QBs.

The Pillsbury Throwboy has a friend.

[The Leaper]

Colts snag Mike Hart.

[Rastak]

Colts take C Justice:

Strengths: Fires out of stance with excellent initial quickness. Rarely takes false steps and can get into position quickly. Moves well laterally and flashes the ability to reach defenders lined up over outside shoulder. Takes sound angles to blocks, shows good body control when adjusting to moving targets in space and gets into position at the second level. Gets adequate hand placement, locks onto defender's frames and flashes the ability to sustain. Works from snap to whistle and looks to hit people downfield. Keeps head up shows good awareness and can adjusts to line stunts and blitzes. Has active feet and flashes the ability to redirect in pass protection. Puts good zip on shotgun snaps and is accurate.

Weaknesses: Isn't explosive, doesn't deliver a violent initial punch and isn't going to knock many defenders back. Leaves his feet too much. Does not show good lower body strength, isn't going to drive two-gap defenders off the ball and is far more effective when isn't covered. Frequently fails to extend arms when combo blocking and doesn't do a great job of helping guards. Plays with a narrow base and occasionally slips off blocks. Stays low when gets into pass set and flashes ability to hold ground but is undersized and is going to have problems holding ground against bull rushers.

Overall: Justice arrived at Wake Forest in 2003 and was redshirted. He appeared in 50 games in four years for the Demon Deacons (2004-'07), closing out his career with 39 consecutive starts dating back to 2005, when he won the starting job. As a senior, Justice received the ACC's Jacobs Blocking Trophy, awarded annually to the league's top lineman. Justice is a blue-collar player that uses quick feet, technique and work ethic to mask his lack of ideal size, power and explosiveness. Though he is not an ideal fit for every team, Justice displays enough potential to develop into a starter for a zone-blocking offense (Examples: Broncos, Colts, Packers and Texans). Those teams should consider Justice a good value early on Day 2.

[Rastak]

As mentioned Colts take Hart:

Strengths: A gifted natural runner. One of the most competitive prospects in this class, regardless of position. Is patient but doesn't dance. Once he finds the crease he shows adequate initial burst and is very aggressive. Possesses outstanding vision and instincts as a runner. Does a great job of finding front-side and back-side lanes in zone-blocking scheme. He's slippery and doesn't take a lot of clean hits on his body. Runs with excellent body control and balance, which allows him to protect his body and change directions quickly. Runs hard for his size and will break more open field tackles than his measurables would indicate. Displays soft hands as a receiver and has upside in that department. He does an exceptional job with ball security. His fumbles versus Florida in 2007-'08 Gator Bowl and vs. Ball State in November of 2006 were his only two since 2004. He is a very hard worker with great character. Team seems to really rally around him.

Weaknesses: Lack of size is his biggest weakness. He lacks ideal height and bulk, especially in his lower-body. Runs hard but lacks the size and power to push the pile on short-yardage runs. Does not appear on film to be as fast as his 40-time might indicate. Clearly lacks the second-gear to run away from defenders once he hits the second-level. Will get tracked down in the open field by faster defenders. Saw more playing time on passing downs early in career but scheme change and durability concerns led to a reduced role as a receiver. Lack of size limits him as a blocker in pass pro. Simply overwhelmed at times by bigger blitzing LB's. Durability has been an issue and is especially concerning considering his below-average size.

Overall: During his first three seasons (2004-'06), Hart appeared in 33 games (29 starts) and had 3,679 yards and 27 touchdowns on 750 carries (4.9 average). He also had 59 receptions for 516 yards and two touchdowns in that period. As a senior in 2007, he had 1,419 yards and 14 touchdowns on 265 carries (5.1 average) in 10 games, adding eight receptions for 50 yards (6.2 average). Hart missed four-plus games in 2005 because of hamstring and ankle injuries. He also missed two games as a senior because of a right ankle sprain. Hart is one of the tougher prospects in this year's class to evaluate. On one hand, his measurables do not line up with most NFL scouting standards and his history of injuries raise a big red flag. On the other hand, his production can't be ignored and his competitiveness is infectious. Michigan implemented zone-blocking scheme in 2006 that clearly played to Hart's strengths as a patient runner with excellent vision. He would fit best in a similar scheme at the next level. Hart may never be a fulltime starter but he is versatile enough to contribute in several areas while serving primarily as a change-of-pace backup running back in the NFL. Regardless, Hart projects as a third round pick in the 2008 draft.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Eagles take LB Mays NDSU: (Hey Harv, give us the low down).....no Bio

Hard nosed kid out of Wisconsin, I believe. Maybe Milwaukee. Great tackler. Smart. Not very big. I'm surprised he got drafted though because he didn't run that well at his pro day, and I thought he'd have to run well to get drafted.