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  • Originally posted by Tarlam!
    Originally posted by The Leaper
    (...)since he is a former QB and has played multiple positions during his career.
    The more I sleep on it, the more I'm convinced we have drafted a TE project in Nelson.

    I might have bought that theory - until they drafted Finley.

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    • You also have to consider that Nelson was pretty much the only offensive weapon for K-State and that every team that lined up against him pretty much had "Stop Jordy Nelson" as their number one priority, and he was frequently double, triple, and on occasion quadruple covered.

      Last year he had 9 catches for 90 yards against Auburn (*gasp* one of the better SEC teams), and 12 catches for 116 yards against Texas (who is no slouch themselves.) He also managed 10 catches for 137 yards against Kansas (including that torching of Talib) and 8 catches for 94 yards against Missouri.

      So Nelson had 90-140 yard receiving games against the teams who ended up ranked 15, 10, 7, and 4 in the final college football poll. That seems to me that he put up some impressive numbers against top shelf competition.

      I'm not saying that he's ready to show up on day 1 and toast Dre Bly (though James Jones managed it in his rookie season), but there's a lot fewer question marks about Nelson's ability against NFL caliber corners than Jones or Jennings had when they were drafted, and those guys turned out to be able to play against NFL corners so I would have some confidence in our scouting dept. as concerns the WR position.
      </delurk>

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      • Youz guys are tearing Noodle and his SEC buttlove a new one!

        Got me wanting to buy a Nelson jersey already.

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        • SEC

          Originally posted by The Leaper
          Originally posted by Noodle
          Actually, I had a big question about Jennings that had nothing to do with durability, and it's the same big question I have about Nelson: can the guy get sufficient separation. That's why conference matters. It's one thing to get separation from some mid-major sloth and build up big numbers, it's another to get it against liquid-hipped speedsters in the speed conferences like the SEC.
          I'm SO tired of people who seem to think the SEC is the be-all-end-all of college football. Sure, it is a great football conference...the deepest and usually the toughest. However, there are PLENTY of other conferences with lots of NFL caliber talent.

          #1 CB taken: McKelvin - Sun Belt
          #2 CB taken: DRC - Div I-AA
          #3 CB taken: Talib - Big 12 (a guy who Nelson faced and torched, so I have no idea why you have questions regarding Nelson)
          #4 CB taken: Jenkins - Big East
          #5 CB taken: Cason - Pac 10
          #6 CB taken: Flowers - ACC
          #7 CB taken: Porter - Big 10
          #8 CB taken: Lee - SEC (and not noted as a speed guy)

          If the SEC is so damn superior, where are all the "liquid hipped speedster" guys that Nelson would have to face to convince you he is NFL caliber? The fact of the matter is that Nelson faced plenty of high end talent at Kansas State, and there should be no questions regarding the level of competition he faced. If you want to question a Jennings or Jones, who actually did come from lower levels of competition, so be it. But don't give me this "SEC or shit" garbage.
          Amen Brother!

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          • Originally posted by Scott Campbell
            Originally posted by Tarlam!
            Originally posted by The Leaper
            (...)since he is a former QB and has played multiple positions during his career.
            The more I sleep on it, the more I'm convinced we have drafted a TE project in Nelson.

            I might have bought that theory - until they drafted Finley.
            Except he also drafted Swain.

            So we can speculate which of the 2 whitey WR's will be a TE project. One of them will....

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            • Originally posted by Tarlam!
              Except he also drafted Swain.

              So we can speculate which of the 2 whitey WR's will be a TE project. One of them will....
              Swain is like 6'0" 200 lbs. Tory Humphrey is considered a shrimp at TE, and he's taller than that.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • Neither Nelson nor Swain is anywhere close to being big enough. Nelson at 6'3" would be short for a TE, and would have to gain about 35 lbs.

                Besides, they signed an undrafted rookie TE that is 6"8, 270.

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                • The more I've seen of him on You tube and other places the more I like him.



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                  • I bet I could make a video of myself on youtube and I could make myself look like a great prospect.
                    Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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                    • Originally posted by b bulldog
                      I bet I could make a video of myself on youtube and I could make myself look like a great prospect.
                      maybe for an ohio state jackoff porn video competition or something...

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                      • Originally posted by mission
                        Originally posted by b bulldog
                        I bet I could make a video of myself on youtube and I could make myself look like a great prospect.
                        maybe for an ohio state jackoff porn video competition or something...

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                        • Originally posted by b bulldog
                          I bet I could make a video of myself on youtube and I could make myself look like a great prospect.
                          While I admit that highlight reels are extremely biased...

                          There is also no second guessing how good Nelson looks on those reels. For all the knocks on his speed, I consistently see him just running away from guys in the secondary. And he isn't just doing this against Northeastern Farm State Community College. He is running away from guys who are playing for elite schools like Oklahoma and Texas.
                          My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                          • It's nice to dream about a great Nelson draft pick. it's driver, jennings and jones and up to nelson to prove himself. may the best WR win! New QB, new favs for receivers. time will tell.

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                            • Can't we at least give the Noodle some love for that great phrase "liquid-hipped speedsters"?

                              Sexy.

                              And I'm a fan of the Jonester. He's gonna bust out this year as the #3 guy.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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                              • Thanks for the love, Fritzy.

                                As to you other d-bags, I'm guessing the only thing you ever read is the back of cereal boxes, because your comprehension abilities are akin to a friggin spider monkey.

                                Take a breath, lose your pathetic hypersensitivity regarding the SEC that is probably caused by you being uncoordinated, slow-footed, knuckle dragging, mouth breathing troglodytes, and READ WHAT I WROTE (perhaps try saying it out loud while you read, I hear that can help).

                                I didn't say the SEC was the only conference with athletic CBs, only that such corners did play in the SEC. I did say that the Big 12 had good CBs, and I gave specific respect to Texas and Oklahoma. And I concluded that Nelson would be fine because he had proved himself against those quality defenses.

                                So what's your problem with that?

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