Our Starting QB For The Opener

[Scott Campbell]

My contention all along with Rodgers was that no one was given the opportunity to compete with the guy during his 3 years with us.

He had plenty of competition, and wasn't handed anything but a clipboard. He didn't start - Favre did. Favre beat him out.

[Scott Campbell]

And, I try (these days) to make a habit of not treating other posters unfairly.

I miss the old piss and vinegar Tarlam! We need to get you back in touch with the asshole within.

[Scott Campbell]

And, I try (these days) to make a habit of not treating other posters unfairly.

I miss the old piss and vinegar Tarlam! We need to get you back in touch with the asshole within.

[chain_gang]

I think this would be a better question for next year. I think Rodgers is the starter easily for the opener, even if he sucks during the preseason. Remember that Brohm will be playing against 2nd and 3rd stringers, and Flynn against 3rd and 4ths. Of course there is a possibility of an injury. If an injury happens to Rodgers in TC, Brohm will be the starter, more than likely for about 2-3 games, and then he'll be more than likely injured, leaving us with Matt Flynn. I like Brohm, but he's been injured throughout his whole college career, which is why I'm kind of bewildered why anyone would want him to start this year, let's get the middle of Oline fixed, and then debate if Brohm should start next season.

Best way to describe this is, Montana, Brady, Manning. Not gunslingers, no huge arms, not Brett Favre. Which means, accurate and cerebral, and good/great pass blocking offensive line makes it all possible. That's what Brohm, Rodgers, Flynn, and pretty much any QB without Favre's natural talent, needs to become a ProBowl/HOF QB.

[gbgary]

unless he can't play, due to injury, or has sucked so thoroughly during the preseason that the fans riot, it'll be rodgers.

[KYPack]

(...)As a fan , I have to support the team even if I disagree with handing Rodgers anything.

What's really funny is all of the cake-eaters who all of a sudden aren't so high on Rodgers. Will they pony up and apologize to those of us who have not been on the Rodgers band wagon?(...)Ah, the human mind, what a waste it is.

I am firmly on the Rodgers bandwagon and have been from Day 1 - but, hey, I am a first class homer just doing my job.

But why do I need to apologize, even if A-Rod turned out to suck? I didn't select him or coach him. I have and will continue to cheer him. I won't say "sorry" for liking a Packer.

BTW KY, I am with Scott and Ras. BPA. If that's A-Rod, great. If not, BPA.

At all positions.

I know what ya mean, Tar.

But QB is a different animal. The young kid may have the better arm, move better, and eventually become the better QB. But he is 99% not gonna be ready. There are exceptions that prove the rule, but in general developing a QB is like making wine. It takes time.

I like Brohm. I think we got as good a prospective QB as there is in the draft, but he needs time to develop.

If Brohm would have a knock-out pre-season, and out-play Rodgers...
Rodgers should open the first game. In fact, it would retard Brohm's learning curve to play. The first year is best spent getting the hang of the NFL game, then taking it to the field.

You want the BPA to become experienced and then get his shot, not learning bad habits.

[Tarlam!]

You want the BPA to become experienced and then get his shot, not learning bad habits.

That's a killer argument, right there.

[Tarlam!]

And, I try (these days) to make a habit of not treating other posters unfairly.

I miss the old piss and vinegar Tarlam! We need to get you back in touch with the asshole within.

Just saw this. SC! Hahahahahaha! I'm glad somebody noticed!!!

[3irty1]

Think about this though... Has Rodgers ever actually left the field with an injury? His injury concerns are inflated because he never had to start week after week while being hurt... something Brett Favre did all the time.

[Tarlam!]

The full article: http://chicagosports.chicagotribune....4248190.column



David Haugh | On the Bears
10:48 PM CDT, April 29, 2008

It generally takes three years to assess the impact of an NFL draft accurately. But after three days, here are 10 things I know now about the Bears that I didn't know before last weekend's draft.

1. I know that despite all the silly hand-wringing in Chicago over not drafting a quarterback, I would rather go into next season with the Bears' top two quarterbacks, Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton, than, say, the Packers'—Aaron Rodgers and Brian Brohm—if the priority is winning in 2008. Green Bay might have positioned itself better for the future at the position but not the present, not with Grossman and Orton bringing a combined 52 NFL starts to training camp compared with zero for Rodgers and Brohm. And remember, the Bears' 2008 draft, for a change, was more about now than later.

2. I know the Tampa Bay Buccaneers currently own the rights to seven quarterbacks after taking San Diego's Josh Johnson in the fifth round, and one of them likely to get cut would look good holding a clipboard for the Bears. Chris Simms would be the preferred choice, but Luke McCown or Bruce Gradkowski would suffice so the Bears could let the winner of the Nick Hill-Caleb Hanie derby stay on the practice squad and run the scout team.

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Now that is provocative.

[Zool]

Wow so the logic is, I'd rather have 2 qb's who have proven they aren't very good instead of guys with tons of potential. Thats some genius homer logic.

[Merlin]

Grossman and Orton over Rodgers and Brohm? No friggin way. Grossman is a backup QB who starts. Orton was never really asked to do anything but not turn the ball over ad he ran a heavy run game offense, at least his rookie year. Who knows if Orton really has the skills. He certainly can run an offense that only passes 15 times a game and be frugal with the turnovers on his part, but how hard is that when you have an awesome running game? The Bears don't have that running game anymore.

I agree that if Rodgers can't beat out a rookie after three years of training for the job that he won't be the starter long. He will be the starter unless he gets injured or Brohm advances quickly and shows something special out of the gate. I believe Majik & Favre, although not certainly not "great" QB's in the beginning, both had that thing everyone looks for in a QB, the ability to step on the field and be in charge and make things happen. I don't see that passion in Rodgers. When he goes on the field it's like he is on a contact high, no emotion what so ever. I hope that will change this season, and he cuts his hair.

[MadScientist]

Re: Our Starting QB For The Opener

95% chance Rodgers plays the best given his experience and the advantage of playing with the starters.

05% chance Brohm plays out of his head and Rodgers looks awful.

Would you really declare Rodgers the starter no matter WHAT happens? That's kind of crazy. He'll almost certainly win the job but if he completely melts down would you really want to put yourself in a box with absolutes?

The problem is you don't have much to judge things on. A few preseason games really don't show how things are going to be in the regular season. In many if not most PS games the last 8 years, Favre didn't look as good as his backup. In particular Hassleback looked great in PS, but it took him a couple of years to settle in as a starter.

The only way non-injured Rodgers doesn't start is if he melts down to the point of losing confidence in himself.

[woodbuck27]

I agree with you, SC but IMO the only way I don't see Aaron starting is due to injury. This is TT's pride and joy, I mean he was given the backup spot in his 2nd year, not because he earned it, but because of where he was drafted. I don't see it being any different now with the starting role. TT has too much pride to not start Aaron in lieu of a rookie.

He was handed the back-up spot in his Rookie season GBRulz because he was TT's boy. Re-call all the Pre-season playing time Aaron Rodgers was awarded Vs Nall well Vs Brett Favre.

It was just painful for me to watch back then. Sickening.

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=746889

Fluff piece on Matt Flynn on JSO. (McGinn seems impressed by him.) He was the 12th QB taken, and the last five QBs that were chosen 12th in the draft were: James Kilian (2005), John Navarre ('04), Gibran Hamdan ('03), Seth Burford ('02) and Joe Hamilton ('00). Kind of what you'd expect.

However, here's a really interesting fact:

From 1992, which was the last time the Packers were looking for a quarterback, to 2007, 80 quarterbacks were drafted in the sixth round or later. Of those 80, an amazing 10% made the Pro Bowl.

Six actually were elected to the Pro Bowl: Brad Johnson (No. 227), Jeff Blake (166), Trent Green (222), Matt Hasselbeck (187), Marc Bulger (168) and Brady (199).

Two others went to the Pro Bowl as injury replacements: Elvis Grbac (219) and Gus Frerotte (197).

That list doesn't include Damon Huard (who had a couple of good years) and Derek Anderson (who had a breakout year in 2007). I'm amazed that the number is so high.