Will the Pack sign a vet QB

[Tarlam!]

No, I didn't KNOW Brett was the ironman, but iIm sure glad I found out.

He had a foot of his intestine removed after a car crash and returned in time to play college ball.

I think anybody who studied him knew he was a tough SOB.

[Zool]

Re: B

Didn't Thompson say that they made an offer to Culpepper before the draft but he wanted to wait and weigh his options?

I was watching ESPN coverage of the draft and thats what Mort was saying about Cullpeper. That he was offered a contract with the packers but Cullpepper waited after the draft to make his desion. Basically TT made that desion for him by drafting 2 QBs? Has there been any team that in recent memory that drafted 2 QB's in the same draft class?

Broncos in 04.
Texans in 03.
49'ers 2000
Bengals 1999


On a strange side note, the Ravens have been in existence since 1996 and have drafted a QB in all but 3 of their seasons. I think they might want to try some new talent evaluators at that position.

[Patler]

Re: B

On a strange side note, the Ravens have been in existence since 1996 and have drafted a QB in all but 3 of their seasons. I think they might want to try some new talent evaluators at that position.

Why is that strange? Wolf was just as aggressive drafting QBs, and said you had to draft one virtually every year because it was the most important position on the team. He said you had to continually look for QBs. Wolf's drafts for QB:

'92-Detmer
'93-Brunnell
'94
'95-Barker
'96-Wachholtz
'97-McAda
'98-Hasslebeck
'99-Brooks
'00-

Thompson has continued that philosophy:
'05-Rodgers
'06-Martin
'07
'08-Brohm and Flynn

[BF4MVP]

I don't see the need..A-Rod doesn't need a mentor, he's got coaches to tell him what he should be doing..Plus he already sat behind Brett for three years..I think Brohm is capable of coming in and giving us a chance if need be..And if your first two quarterbacks get hurt you're screwed no matter what anyways so it might as well be Flynn..He did win a National Championship after all..

[BF4MVP]

Re: B

On a strange side note, the Ravens have been in existence since 1996 and have drafted a QB in all but 3 of their seasons. I think they might want to try some new talent evaluators at that position.

Why is that strange? Wolf was just as aggressive drafting QBs, and said you had to draft one virtually every year because it was the most important position on the team. He said you had to continually look for QBs. Wolf's drafts for QB:

'92-Detmer
'93-Brunnell
'94
'95-Barker
'96-Wachholtz
'97-McAda
'98-Hasslebeck
'99-Brooks
'00-

Thompson has continued that philosophy:
'05-Rodgers
'06-Martin
'07
'08-Brohm and Flynn

Yep. Didn't Wolf say that you should try to take a QB every draft because later on you might be able to trade him for more than the draft pick you spent to get him?

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought he said something along those lines..

[Zool]

Re: B

On a strange side note, the Ravens have been in existence since 1996 and have drafted a QB in all but 3 of their seasons. I think they might want to try some new talent evaluators at that position.

Why is that strange? Wolf was just as aggressive drafting QBs, and said you had to draft one virtually every year because it was the most important position on the team. He said you had to continually look for QBs. Wolf's drafts for QB:

'92-Detmer
'93-Brunnell
'94
'95-Barker
'96-Wachholtz
'97-McAda
'98-Hasslebeck
'99-Brooks
'00-

Thompson has continued that philosophy:
'05-Rodgers
'06-Martin
'07
'08-Brohm and Flynn

Yep. Didn't Wolf say that you should try to take a QB every draft because later on you might be able to trade him for more than the draft pick you spent to get him?

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought he said something along those lines..

Strange because they keep picking up FA QB's when they continually draft QB's. Even going back to their days as the Browns, they had Testeverde from Tampa.

The only one they hit on appears to have been Derek Anderson. Now a Cleveland Brown ironically enough.

[KYPack]

It's also wierd that the Old Browns/ Ravens probably have one of the league's top personnel finding front offices. They get the Ed Reeds, Ray Lewis's, Jon Ogden's, but can't find a QB to save theri ass.

There have been many years, I would have taken one of their top flight DB's just to help our secondary.

That early 2000's Raven D was fulla studs, still is actually.

[red]

OMG zool

you just fired one right past the mighty patler and he swung and missed bad

for the record, i knew what you were trying to say

[Rich McGeorge]

Thanks for the welcome, guys. It's awesome to see all the old gang here!




The big difference with the Ravens (IMO) is not the ability to find the right guys, but to develop a QB. Ozzie obviously knows how to find talent. Not too many teams know how to coach a QB. It's the same problem the Brears have had. They put together a pretty good D and had a pretty good O-line. They just couldn't figure out how to teach a young guy how to play in the NFL.

That's where we were lucky with Holmgren, and what TT hopes he brought back with MM. Based on how Brett's play improved dramatically last year, I think he made a good call. We'll really find out now that he has a stable of QBs to work with.

[the_idle_threat]

The big difference with the Ravens (IMO) is not the ability to find the right guys, but to develop a QB.

Bingo. What's strange is that they've drafted guys practically every year and yet from all those guys they still don't have a competent starter to this day.

Contrast that with Wolf's picks---three of them went on to start for other teams; four if you include Ty Detmer's brief time as a starter.

By the way, welcome to Packerrats Rich. I'll admit I don't remember much of what you posted at JSO, because your avatars were usually too distracting.

[Rich McGeorge]

LOL...I'm working on getting another avatar. I'm bored with the last one...

[Zool]

OMG zool

you just fired one right past the mighty patler and he swung and missed bad

for the record, i knew what you were trying to say

I know. I'll never be posting in another thread with him again. I'm going out on top baby.