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  • #31
    Originally posted by MJZiggy
    That's why no one saw Brett's retirement coming.
    Not "no one"!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Patler
      Originally posted by MJZiggy
      That's why no one saw Brett's retirement coming.
      Not "no one"!


      Hey, can you predict something positive for a change ????
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Bretsky
        Originally posted by Patler
        Originally posted by MJZiggy
        That's why no one saw Brett's retirement coming.
        Not "no one"!


        Hey, can you predict something positive for a change ????
        Gee, and I'm usually a fairly positive outlook sort of person!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by MJZiggy
          That's why no one saw Brett's retirement coming.
          I predicted that Favre would retire this off season.

          I've seen the obvious lack of support he got from TT since TT arrived. It was too in your face and too many here refused to see it.

          I predict this too.

          Soon we'll get the damning evidence too. Favre's feelings and words about TT's lack of show of support; and the botom line . Favre's statements Re: TT's failure to deliver that support.

          The case will then be closed as to:

          The real reason Brett Favre retired from the Packers. This is going to heat up folks. TT didn't want Brett Favre back and this can of worms will make TT very uncomfortable.

          I can't wait for it to come out. To all come out.

          I've not been wrong.

          PACKERS FOREVER!
          ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
          ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
          ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
          ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Bretsky
            Originally posted by Joemailman
            Originally posted by oregonpackfan
            It sure is nice to have the "problem" of too many qualified receivers! It was not too long ago the Packers had the opposite problem.
            I think it's kind of funny that one year after people were slamming TT for not signing Moss, a lot of people were wondering why TT spent his top pick on a WR. Hoe did we go from "Favre needs more weapons" to "Rodgers has tons of weapons" in one year?


            I slammed TT for not signing Moss; but I'm perfectly fine with drafting a WR. Ruvell Martin or an injured Koren Robinson or both could be upgraded

            It seems that the year Favre retires we may have the strongest group of #1-#5 WR's in the last twenty years.
            Has he retired?
            ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
            ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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            • #36
              Originally posted by woodbuck27
              Originally posted by MJZiggy
              That's why no one saw Brett's retirement coming.
              I predicted that Favre would retire this off season.

              I've seen the obvious lack of support he got from TT since TT arrived. It was too in your face and too many here refused to see it.

              I predict this too.

              Soon we'll get the damning evidence too. Favre's feelings and words about TT's lack of show of support; and the botom line . Favre's statements Re: TT's failure to deliver that support.

              The case will then be closed as to:

              The real reason Brett Favre retired from the Packers. This is going to heat up folks. TT didn't want Brett Favre back and this can of worms will make TT very uncomfortable.

              I can't wait for it to come out. To all come out.

              I've not been wrong.

              PACKERS FOREVER!
              So you think Favre is lying about why he's retiring? Is he part of this conspriracy too? Is he covering up the truth because he's afraid of the facsist TT regime and their possible retailiation for any comments about "the real reason he retired"? Hopefully, in thirty years, top secret documents will be made public. Then we'll find out that TT hates Favre and ran him out of Green Bay.

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              • #37
                Some things are best left unsaid and unknown.

                I tend to agree with Woodbuck's assessment of the situation, but I really don't want all that dirty laundry put on display.

                Favre has more class than to bring it up--I think/hope. If he does speak out, it will tarnish his image--assuming the Packers continue to be successful, and Thompson is generally regarded as the thinker behind the success.

                And it obviously wouldn't do Thompson's image any good either. Some people would hate him more for dissing Favre than they would love him for giving us a probable outstanding team.

                Let a bunch of other teams have their scandals and controversies. I don't want that for the Packers--even if the story is true.
                What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ahaha
                  Originally posted by woodbuck27
                  Originally posted by MJZiggy
                  That's why no one saw Brett's retirement coming.
                  I predicted that Favre would retire this off season.

                  I've seen the obvious lack of support he got from TT since TT arrived. It was too in your face and too many here refused to see it.

                  I predict this too.

                  Soon we'll get the damning evidence too. Favre's feelings and words about TT's lack of show of support; and the botom line . Favre's statements Re: TT's failure to deliver that support.

                  The case will then be closed as to:

                  The real reason Brett Favre retired from the Packers. This is going to heat up folks. TT didn't want Brett Favre back and this can of worms will make TT very uncomfortable.

                  I can't wait for it to come out. To all come out.

                  I've not been wrong.

                  PACKERS FOREVER!
                  So you think Favre is lying about why he's retiring? Is he part of this conspriracy too? Is he covering up the truth because he's afraid of the facsist TT regime and their possible retailiation for any comments about "the real reason he retired"? Hopefully, in thirty years, top secret documents will be made public. Then we'll find out that TT hates Favre and ran him out of Green Bay.
                  I have been with Woody on this since the beginning. Just because you see things differently doesn't mean that there is a "conspiracy". It is what it is, none of us knows what goes on behind closed doors so making fun of someone because they don't share your opinion is just lame. I believe someday it will come out exactly "why" Favre retired when he did. My question to you is: Will you be here to apologize for all of your childish antics because you think you know everything? Probably not.
                  "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                  – Benjamin Franklin

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by woodbuck27
                    Has he retired?
                    Yes. If you say anything about the meaningless retirement papers, I will slap you.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Merlin
                      Originally posted by ahaha
                      Originally posted by woodbuck27
                      Originally posted by MJZiggy
                      That's why no one saw Brett's retirement coming.
                      I predicted that Favre would retire this off season.

                      I've seen the obvious lack of support he got from TT since TT arrived. It was too in your face and too many here refused to see it.

                      I predict this too.

                      Soon we'll get the damning evidence too. Favre's feelings and words about TT's lack of show of support; and the botom line . Favre's statements Re: TT's failure to deliver that support.

                      The case will then be closed as to:

                      The real reason Brett Favre retired from the Packers. This is going to heat up folks. TT didn't want Brett Favre back and this can of worms will make TT very uncomfortable.

                      I can't wait for it to come out. To all come out.

                      I've not been wrong.

                      PACKERS FOREVER!
                      So you think Favre is lying about why he's retiring? Is he part of this conspriracy too? Is he covering up the truth because he's afraid of the facsist TT regime and their possible retailiation for any comments about "the real reason he retired"? Hopefully, in thirty years, top secret documents will be made public. Then we'll find out that TT hates Favre and ran him out of Green Bay.
                      I have been with Woody on this since the beginning. Just because you see things differently doesn't mean that there is a "conspiracy". It is what it is, none of us knows what goes on behind closed doors so making fun of someone because they don't share your opinion is just lame. I believe someday it will come out exactly "why" Favre retired when he did. My question to you is: Will you be here to apologize for all of your childish antics because you think you know everything? Probably not.
                      It's not that TT or MM didn't want Favre back. If I recall, MM spoke with Favre weekly. Even when Favre told MM he was going to retire, MM told him to think about it for another week. TT and MM let it be known publicly many times that they wanted Favre to come back, that they were expecting him to come back and were surprised at the decision.

                      Favre doesn't need to be babied. He's a grown man, if he needs someone to beg him to come back and push him to come back, then he probably shouldn't be playing. QB's need to want to be playing, to want to be out there on the biggest stage possible. Favre looked like he wanted to curl up next to a fire before the Giants game. IMO, Favre took a look at his life, decided he has had a great career, has been blessed with good health, and decided he didn't want to go through all the work again.

                      If I hear one more thing about TT not supporting Favre I will snap. Look at the weapons we had last year. Who cares we didn't get YOUR weapons, we still had plenty of talent at the skill positions, with the potential to be even better this year.
                      Go PACK

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                      • #41
                        I don't think TT was the reason Favre retired. At least not the only reason. It didn't seem like they were buddy-buddy, but how would that look to the team and fans if the QB and the GM were BFFs? It oculd be that their relationship was very professional and a little frosty, and that might have been a contributing factor to Favre's retirement. If it was the only reason, and Favre still wanted to play, he'd have been traded.
                        For as much as TT values draft picks, and how he handled Javon Walker, you don't think he'd trade Favre if he was unhappy and wanted to be traded?
                        As for Favre always wanting to be a Packer, I think he's too competitive to not change his mind if he could chase a ring someplace else. I just think he's worn out. He's started more consecutive games than any QB in NFL history...he had an amazingly long career. For all the hits he's taken, all the practices and grueling offseasons, I'd be tired too.

                        Back on topic, I think the group of WR's TT has assembled is a good one, and it has to be -- Rodgers will have to lean on them to win games. Nelson will be the #5 or #6 at the start of the season and maybe the #4 by midseason. I don't think he'll beat JJ for the #3 this year. I also think Ruvell will hold the #4 and might slip to #5. I'm not sure if they'll keep 6 WR's unless the #5 & #6 play a lot of ST's. Koren will have to fight for a spot.
                        Then again, camp hasn't started, so who knows.

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                        • #42
                          I thought 13 WR's was a bit high.

                          The KRob cut leaves us at 12.

                          I'd think we will contine to cut from there, rather than add any vets.

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                          • #43
                            You guys need to realize that Merlin and Woody hate TT and will ALWAYS piss and moan becuase he didn't build the team THEIR way. The fact that TT is succeeding really burns their asses. Remember, Merlin won't be happy with a Super Bowl win becuase TT didn't meet his 3 personal benchmarks.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by KYPack
                              I'd think we will contine to cut from there, rather than add any vets.
                              I agree. I don't see TT trading for, say, Chad Johnson or any of the other "I want a new contract" crowd.

                              I doubt any other vets get cut elsewhere that are better than K-Rob or the best 6 WR's we have on the roster.

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