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  • #61
    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
    Very true. But, you also have to recognize institutionalized racism.

    Birds of a feather flock together. In this country, cops have long been racist...the grew up racist and joined the force where there were with other racists...and allowed to continue to act in a racist manner.

    Take a look at sentence disparity tween whites and blacks..especially in the south.
    Real nice. Who is the one with predispositions?

    Kettle, meet teapot.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by cheesner
      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
      Very true. But, you also have to recognize institutionalized racism.

      Birds of a feather flock together. In this country, cops have long been racist...the grew up racist and joined the force where there were with other racists...and allowed to continue to act in a racist manner.

      Take a look at sentence disparity tween whites and blacks..especially in the south.
      Real nice. Who is the one with predispositions?

      Kettle, meet teapot.
      Sorry, but the truth hurts. I didn't say all cops, but the facts are the facts.

      Care to argue on the merits of what i said. care to argue about sentence disparity. Care to argue about earnest lacy or rodney king or abner louima (or the the NYC cops that rioted when giuliana ran against dinkins..who they cops hated), etc.

      When I meet a cop i don't look at him/her and think racist, but when I read a story about a black/white situation..i'm not surprised.

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      • #63
        I don't think Cops are racist.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
          Originally posted by cheesner
          Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
          Very true. But, you also have to recognize institutionalized racism.

          Birds of a feather flock together. In this country, cops have long been racist...the grew up racist and joined the force where there were with other racists...and allowed to continue to act in a racist manner.

          Take a look at sentence disparity tween whites and blacks..especially in the south.
          Real nice. Who is the one with predispositions?

          Kettle, meet teapot.
          Sorry, but the truth hurts. I didn't say all cops, but the facts are the facts.

          Care to argue on the merits of what i said. care to argue about sentence disparity. Care to argue about earnest lacy or rodney king or abner louima (or the the NYC cops that rioted when giuliana ran against dinkins..who they cops hated), etc.

          When I meet a cop i don't look at him/her and think racist, but when I read a story about a black/white situation..i'm not surprised.
          So, you get to be a racist because you are African-American?

          What about Reginald Denny? Some guy smashed a cinder block into his head because he was white. He was not charged with a hate crime although the Rodney King cops were. Does this mean that the justice system is prejudiced towards AAs? How about OJ? He stabs 2 white people and gets off free? Can it now be said that Black people are murders? It is proven that some are. NO! it is Bullshit! And so are your statements.

          As you say the truth hurts. As you just proved you are a racist - you are exactly what you are suggesting is bad.

          And if you don't believe you are a racist, define it and look at your posts again.

          If you would like, substitute black for white and white for black in your statements and suppose a white guy wrote it. Sound racist? Then it is. Think it is different because you are black? Go back and read your definition (or at least a standard definition) of racism.

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          • #65
            Psssst. That was a great rant, but Ty's not black.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Scott Campbell
              Psssst. That was a great rant, but Ty's not black.
              oops

              So that's not him in the AVATAR?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Partial
                I don't think Cops are racist.
                OH. So all cops aren't racist? They are all good people? LOL

                There is no arguing that racism exists within police departments. For years, only whites were police officers.

                Not all cops are racist, however, some are racist to begin with, others are molded into that perspective.

                HOw?

                Police work, unlike most other professional activities, has the capacity to bring officers into contact with a skewed cross-section of society, with the well-recognized potential for producing negative stereotypes of particular groups. Such stereotypes become the common currency of the police occupational culture. If the predominantly white staff of the police organization have their experience of visible minorities largely restricted to interactions with such groups, then negative racial stereotypes will tend to develop accordingly.

                What happens when this becomes "institutional racism?"

                It results in a generalized tendency, particularly where any element of discretion is involved, whereby minorities may receive different and less favorable treatment than the majority. Such differential treatment need be neither conscious nor intentional, and it may be practised routinely by officers whose professionalism is exemplary in all other respects. There is great danger that focusing on overt acts of personal racism by individual officers may deflect attention from the much greater institutional challenge ... of addressing the more subtle and concealed form that organizational-level racism may take. Its most important challenging feature is its predominantly hidden character and its inbuilt pervasiveness within the occupational culture.


                Perhaps you would be interested in reading the CU study (using videogames) that showed police officers quicker to fire at blacks than whites.

                Since the 1970s, sociologists and political scientists have consistently found that minority suspects in the United States face lethal force from police officers at a disproportionate rate. According to 2001 figures from the Department of Justice, black suspects were five times more likely to be shot and killed by officers than white suspects.

                And, to be forthright...officers are 5 times more likely to be shot by a black man than white.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                  And, to be forthright...officers are 5 times more likely to be shot by a black man than white.


                  So it it racism or are they just statistic buffs?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by cheesner
                    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                    Originally posted by cheesner
                    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                    Very true. But, you also have to recognize institutionalized racism.

                    Birds of a feather flock together. In this country, cops have long been racist...the grew up racist and joined the force where there were with other racists...and allowed to continue to act in a racist manner.

                    Take a look at sentence disparity tween whites and blacks..especially in the south.
                    Real nice. Who is the one with predispositions?

                    Kettle, meet teapot.
                    Sorry, but the truth hurts. I didn't say all cops, but the facts are the facts.

                    Care to argue on the merits of what i said. care to argue about sentence disparity. Care to argue about earnest lacy or rodney king or abner louima (or the the NYC cops that rioted when giuliana ran against dinkins..who they cops hated), etc.

                    When I meet a cop i don't look at him/her and think racist, but when I read a story about a black/white situation..i'm not surprised.
                    So, you get to be a racist because you are African-American?

                    What about Reginald Denny? Some guy smashed a cinder block into his head because he was white. He was not charged with a hate crime although the Rodney King cops were. Does this mean that the justice system is prejudiced towards AAs? How about OJ? He stabs 2 white people and gets off free? Can it now be said that Black people are murders? It is proven that some are. NO! it is Bullshit! And so are your statements.

                    As you say the truth hurts. As you just proved you are a racist - you are exactly what you are suggesting is bad.

                    And if you don't believe you are a racist, define it and look at your posts again.

                    If you would like, substitute black for white and white for black in your statements and suppose a white guy wrote it. Sound racist? Then it is. Think it is different because you are black? Go back and read your definition (or at least a standard definition) of racism.
                    Man, you are exactly the brightet bulb. Did i say anything about treating people differently because of their skin color. I said exactly the opposite. When i meet a cop i dont' view him as a racist. What i said was that when i see/hear about it it doesn't surprise me.

                    Just as when someone who is rich and wearing bling in a bad section of town gets jacked. Do they deserve it..no. Am i surprised, no.

                    YOu need to get a grip. THere is no doubting the racism that exists in society. Police officers are part of society. Follow the logic.

                    You can't equate all crimes. I'm not doing that..you fuckin dope. Some cases are blatantly racist, some are good solid police work.

                    Again, explain the police reloading on that black guy on his wedding day, or abner louima, or the riots caused by giuliani, or lacey, or the countless other blacks that were killed. I guess the expression DWB just came about because...well outta thin air.

                    P.S. Who said anything about my color. Are you judging my posts based on an AVATAR? Hmm, wonder if i had a different avatar that you might not post exactly the same...or imply that my posts are a result of race.

                    Figure it out man...cause, you aren't exactly on track.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                      And, to be forthright...officers are 5 times more likely to be shot by a black man than white.


                      So it it racism or are they just statistic buffs?
                      Well, we could also throw out shootings related to econ status as well.

                      I think we all know that crime (non white collar) is directly related to econ status.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                        YOu need to get a grip. THere is no doubting the racism that exists in society. Police officers are part of society. Follow the logic.

                        You can't equate all crimes. I'm not doing that..you fuckin dope. Some cases are blatantly racist, some are good solid police work.

                        Again, explain the police reloading on that black guy on his wedding day, or abner louima, or the riots caused by giuliani, or lacey, or the countless other blacks that were killed. I guess the expression DWB just came about because...well outta thin air.

                        P.S. Who said anything about my color. Are you judging my posts based on an AVATAR? Hmm, wonder if i had a different avatar that you might not post exactly the same...or imply that my posts are a result of race.

                        Figure it out man...cause, you aren't exactly on track.
                        I agree, there is a lot of racism. Some of it is unfortunately 'politically correct' and encouraged by society.

                        Tyrone, I appreciate your posts in general. You are definitely an intelligent poster. I think my post was a little harsh and premature. I prefer your later post in response to Partial. I don't think we will quite agree on things, I certainly see things in a different perspective.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                          Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                          And, to be forthright...officers are 5 times more likely to be shot by a black man than white.


                          So it it racism or are they just statistic buffs?
                          Ty considers that racist. And Cheesner, Tyrone is as white as a upper middle class suburban kid can get.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by cheesner
                            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                            YOu need to get a grip. THere is no doubting the racism that exists in society. Police officers are part of society. Follow the logic.

                            You can't equate all crimes. I'm not doing that..you fuckin dope. Some cases are blatantly racist, some are good solid police work.

                            Again, explain the police reloading on that black guy on his wedding day, or abner louima, or the riots caused by giuliani, or lacey, or the countless other blacks that were killed. I guess the expression DWB just came about because...well outta thin air.

                            P.S. Who said anything about my color. Are you judging my posts based on an AVATAR? Hmm, wonder if i had a different avatar that you might not post exactly the same...or imply that my posts are a result of race.

                            Figure it out man...cause, you aren't exactly on track.
                            I agree, there is a lot of racism. Some of it is unfortunately 'politically correct' and encouraged by society.

                            Tyrone, I appreciate your posts in general. You are definitely an intelligent poster. I think my post was a little harsh and premature. I prefer your later post in response to Partial. I don't think we will quite agree on things, I certainly see things in a different perspective.
                            Cheesner,

                            Not a problem. As we say in the ghetto..no autopsy, no foul.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Partial
                              Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                              And, to be forthright...officers are 5 times more likely to be shot by a black man than white.


                              So it it racism or are they just statistic buffs?
                              Ty considers that racist. And Cheesner, Tyrone is as white as a upper middle class suburban kid can get.
                              there you go again, stalking me. Give me your addy so i can send the poster.

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                              • #75
                                I hate to stick up for a Longhorn AND a Chicago Bear, but my unscientific smell test says Benson is in the right on this one.
                                I believe in God, family, Baylor University, and the Green Bay Packers.

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