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  • #31
    Originally posted by Chester Marcol
    You could tell, no matter how bad anyone wanted the Pack to win, Favre wanted it more.
    Well, maybe I'll get lynched. But I could not tell that against the Giants. Sorry, Favre should have been benched. He looked old, cold and disinterested.

    Now, the week before, he looked better than anytime in his entire career! A brilliant player.

    But that Giants game. Sorry.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Tarlam!
      Originally posted by Chester Marcol
      You could tell, no matter how bad anyone wanted the Pack to win, Favre wanted it more.
      Well, maybe I'll get lynched. But I could not tell that against the Giants. Sorry, Favre should have been benched. He looked old, cold and disinterested.

      Now, the week before, he looked better than anytime in his entire career! A brilliant player.

      But that Giants game. Sorry.
      I also made that same argument as well as arguing I thought number 10 all time was about right for him when someone posted that list, however I also said in the post you quoted from
      Originally posted by Chester Marcol
      Let's keep the debate about the player out of this.
      From my past arguments it's clear I don't think he was the greatest QB, but Favre the person meant more to the game of football than quite a few who have won more SB's. Tom Brady retires tomorrow, does football really miss him? The Raiders game after Favre's dad passed away is just one example of how much he was respected outside of Packer nation.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Tarlam!
        Originally posted by Chester Marcol
        You could tell, no matter how bad anyone wanted the Pack to win, Favre wanted it more.
        Well, maybe I'll get lynched. But I could not tell that against the Giants. Sorry, Favre should have been benched. He looked old, cold and disinterested.

        Now, the week before, he looked better than anytime in his entire career! A brilliant player.

        But that Giants game. Sorry.
        There's absolutely nothing wrong with simply being objective. It's refreshing.
        Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Tarlam!
          Originally posted by Chester Marcol
          You could tell, no matter how bad anyone wanted the Pack to win, Favre wanted it more.
          Well, maybe I'll get lynched. But I could not tell that against the Giants. Sorry, Favre should have been benched. He looked old, cold and disinterested.

          Now, the week before, he looked better than anytime in his entire career! A brilliant player.

          But that Giants game. Sorry.

          ........this after you spent the big bucks on the 'official' Brett Favre jersey.

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          • #35
            I prefer to remember him for his play a week earlier.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Tarlam!
              Originally posted by Chester Marcol
              You could tell, no matter how bad anyone wanted the Pack to win, Favre wanted it more.
              Well, maybe I'll get lynched. But I could not tell that against the Giants. Sorry, Favre should have been benched. He looked old, cold and disinterested.

              Now, the week before, he looked better than anytime in his entire career! A brilliant player.

              But that Giants game. Sorry.
              Thinks about what you are saying; he had a great game in Seattle. He was off his game, especially in the second half

              But you don't bench your starting QB. You don't bench a HOF QB who has had one of his best seasons thus far. He can turn it off and on and was certainly capable of a great play at any time........or a bad one.

              Sure it's easy to say in retrospect.....but think about it. If AROD comes in and makes one bad play....makes any bad play.......well........poor MM and AROD.....fan mutiny......all kinds of terrible things could occur.

              And you don't pull an experienced and successful QB for somebody who has never started a NFL game....never played in a playoff game. No way
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #37
                OK.

                You pull Favre.

                Put Rodgers in and we still lose.

                Favre, citing a lack of confidence from his coach, retires anyhow.

                How many of the Rat posters would be screaming for MM's head on a pike?

                Mac knew he had to dance with the one he brung. There was NO other alternative.

                Brett didn't lose that game, he just didn't win it.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by KYPack
                  OK.

                  You pull Favre.

                  Put Rodgers in and we still lose.

                  Favre, citing a lack of confidence from his coach, retires anyhow.

                  How many of the Rat posters would be screaming for MM's head on a pike?

                  Mac knew he had to dance with the one he brung. There was NO other alternative.

                  Brett didn't lose that game, he just didn't win it.

                  Exactly

                  Lots of simple things could have changed that outcome

                  On offense the plays I have flashbacks on are

                  Ruvell Martin's Third Down Drop at the Giants ten yard line
                  Brandon Jackson's screen pass where one LB overpowered two OG's for the stop
                  The terrible interception

                  On special Teams I have nightmares on Jarred Bush not falling on the fumble

                  On defense I have flashbacks about Eli Manning just putting the ball up there for a single covered Burress on nearly every key play in the first half and how I was screaming for GB to change things up. Finally started too modify the defense in the middle of the third quarter.

                  Bottom line was the team that played best won
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #39
                    If you want a scapegoat for the Giants loss why not take it out on the key player that stunk up the joint. Al Harris is the one who should be catching hell for the Gints loss,not Favre.

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                    • #40
                      As an objective reporter for the Urinal Scented, I feel absolutely no emotions whatsoever about the absence of Brett Favre. However, I find it juicy material to anticipate all the whining from Packer Fans that will ensue as the Packers struggle with QBs that have virtually no experience - especially the whining from fans who wanted to see Pederson start after Favre would have a bad game here or there. It almost makes me want to come out of semi-retirement. Still, Packer fans who miss Favre might want to remind themselves that Favre threw a total of three season-ending INTs in late playoff games (Divisional and after) - two in NFC Championship games (in 1995 and 2007), and one in a Divisional Game (2003). Perhaps memories of those three spectacular plays will reduce the sentimentality for Favre, particularly the last throw of his career, which should still be fresh in the minds of Packer fans.

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                      • #41
                        Where the HELL have you been? I sent you a pm like 3 months ago. God only knows if it makes any sense anymore.
                        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Cleft Crusty
                          As an objective reporter for the Urinal Scented, I feel absolutely no emotions whatsoever about the absence of Brett Favre. However, I find it juicy material to anticipate all the whining from Packer Fans that will ensue as the Packers struggle with QBs that have virtually no experience - especially the whining from fans who wanted to see Pederson start after Favre would have a bad game here or there. It almost makes me want to come out of semi-retirement. Still, Packer fans who miss Favre might want to remind themselves that Favre threw a total of three season-ending INTs in late playoff games (Divisional and after) - two in NFC Championship games (in 1995 and 2007), and one in a Divisional Game (2003). Perhaps memories of those three spectacular plays will reduce the sentimentality for Favre, particularly the last throw of his career, which should still be fresh in the minds of Packer fans.

                          I'd hang around to argue with you but Cathouse is on next so I'll just remind you of a few things

                          Before that INT against Phily Favre played a very good game. And he was the QB that got us to the playoffs all those years. That reminder doesn't mean a whole lot to those who dissect the entire season and game.
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #43
                            Cleft Crusty is a Starter Rat?

                            How is that possible?

                            Lemme guess.

                            You think we'd have gone to the SB if Tom Braatz was the GM and Lynn Dickey was the QB, right?

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                            • #44
                              Be nice he is just injecting some realism.

                              Brett will always be loved by Packer fans but other fans see his history in a different light.

                              I hope that whining spoken of does not happen.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Packerarcher
                                If you want a scapegoat for the Giants loss why not take it out on the key player that stunk up the joint. Al Harris is the one who should be catching hell for the Gints loss,not Favre.
                                I fully agree, and i admit, I forgot about how bad Al' played.

                                None the less, I stand by my point. The same guy that brought us back from a 14 point deficit 1 week earlier played terribly againbst the Giants. Maybe MM should have sat him for a series, just to clear his head or something.

                                Look everyone, as PIP pointed out, I bought the guys jersey. The real one for some 220 USD, so I am a #4 fan.

                                I'm not blind is all.

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