Most improved

[bobblehead]

Jones' speed is fine. He burnt Champ Bailey vs. Denver last year, and then outran everyone for a touchdown.

You don't need much more speed then that.

I understand your point, but the bailey thing was a blown coverage, and any NFL reciever with a 3 yard lead will probably be fast enough to stay ahead in a straight line sprint. The speed differences are usually WAY overplayed. The difference between 4.4 and 4.6 is barely noticeable in most situations (which is why i'm sick of hearing about slow linebackers....its all about path to the ball)

where you will see a difference is on a pattern where a corner gives a clean release and doesn't pivot fast enough...a 4.4 guy will have about 2 extra feet over a 4.6 guy which seems irrelavent unless you are the QB trying to squeeze the ball in there. If you are throwing the ball, an extra 2 feet is a huge added bonus. Where Jones makes up is by being big and strong and once the ball is in the air he uses his body to shield the DB and make the catch...result is a catch and no YAC. Greg Jennings catches it full stride and might go all the way, thus a big play guy vs. a possession guy. Both have uses, Jones can catch that 4 yard slant on 3rd and 2 and it will be almost unstoppable where jennings probably can have it taken away.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm still picking Jones. People were saying a lot of negative stuff about Jennings a year ago too, and he came through. I think the slow 40 time was part of the reason we got Jones where we did. He seems to play faster than that, though. It's more a question of becoming thoroughly familiar with the offense--as Jennings did last year and I think Jones will this year.

I also expect big things from Justin Harrell. And if Aaron Rodgers solidifies his spot as starter, it's hard not to call him most improved.

[Tarlam!]

()People were saying a lot of negative stuff about Jennings a year ago too,

Not here, Tex. People 'round these parts have always held Jennings for the real deal. In fact, I can't recall a negative post about Jennings on here.

[Scott Campbell]

()People were saying a lot of negative stuff about Jennings a year ago too,

Not here, Tex. People 'round these parts have always held Jennings for the real deal. In fact, I can't recall a negative post about Jennings on here.

There were lots of questions in here about Jennings durability through the first 1/4 of this year. I'm still not sure they've been answered, but I sure hope so.

[MJZiggy]

Did he have any injuries at all this past season?

[Patler]

Did he have any injuries at all this past season?

Do you mean other than the first two games of the season when he wasn't even on the active game day roster???

[MJZiggy]

That's what I'm asking!! I don't have Harvey's football memory, sorry!

[RashanGary]

Collins might not have mega interceptions, but he was voted as a probowl alternate by coaches, peers and I can't imagine too many fans.

Rouse did get two interceptions in short time, but he also got beat in the run game and pass game more in a couple games than Collins did all year. Collins name may not be called as often as Bigby's, but he rarely gets beat and that is a good quality for a safety to have. I'm not saying he's great, but the "Collins sucks" arguement seems no stronger than the Jennings is a china doll arguement of last year.

[Brohm]

I think the OL as a whole will take a jump forward. It's year 3 (+/- 1) for most of the young guys. Not sure who really but I have a feeling our ground game is going to crank it up this year.

[Brandon494]

Though Jones does not have blinding speed, I still think he can be a valuable receiver for the Packers.

I really like the way he catches the ball with is hands rather than just trying to cradle it. He can become a valuable "Possession receiver" for the Packers, IMO.

Jones is going to be the very best #4 WR in the NFL this year.

I would have to believe Jones will be the #3 WR at the start of the season.

[mission]

listen guys.. im all about it ... id love for jones to emerge. but jennings came on in such a "best case scenerio" that i have a hard time trying my lucky charms and thinking jones is going to match his progression. that might be the betting man ...

anyway, id love it, i really would. obviously, but that's asking a lot and honestly, if we can get 6 tds, 5 of them in the red zone, that'd be a huge season for us and jj... imo tbh and afaik etc al of that junk

[cpk1994]

()People were saying a lot of negative stuff about Jennings a year ago too,

Not here, Tex. People 'round these parts have always held Jennings for the real deal. In fact, I can't recall a negative post about Jennings on here.

Have you already forgotten all the posts about TT being an idiot for taking Jennings over Chad Jackson? The posts that said Jennings wouldn't amount to much because he went to Western Michigan and didn't face any competition? Trust me, there were many negative posts about Jennings.

[Tarlam!]

My memory must be selective. I honestly can't remember us bagging Jennings.

[Zool]

Jennings was labeled as injury prone when he had to sit out the first 2 last year as well. People are very knee-jerk reactionary.

[cpk1994]

And to illustrate my last post:

Bretsky on drafting Jennings:

Then we probably reached for a small school WR who may contribute, but gosh, just doesn't seem that NFL ready when a guy like Demetrius Williams was available.

Not that this counts but forum favorite tank on Jennings:

2 Jenning WR
Two words: Chad Jackson. Two more words: fuck up. All Thompson got for trading Walker is this guy.

Here was Merlin's usual spot on opinion of Jennings:

2 (52) Greg Jennings WR 5-11 191 Western Michigan
Comments: Not the typical WR we were looking for. Tends to craddle the ball into his body and not use his hands. Will get crushed over the middle and not a deep threat. Speedy, but not anything special for a WR. Taken too high when there were better WR prospects on the board. More like a late 3rd rounder. May be a good return man although his ball handling skills need work.

This was just the tip of the iceberg. There was a long list of posters who were mad Jennings was taken over Jackson. There certainly was much negativity about Jennings at first.