Darren Sharper - HOFer

[Rastak]

Not true. He was not dead last in QB rating and was 8-4 as a starter.

I love this stat. It's like saying Rex Grossman was a starter for an NFC Champion. True, but it was in spite of him. To be fair, he shouldn't get credit for San Diego. He got injured in a tie game, and Bollinger led the team to a commanding victory. Another game he went 9 for 23 with 0 TDs and 1 int and won because Peterson ran all over the Bears. Another one they won because of the implosion by Eli Manning (I think the Vikings scored something like four defensive TDs). His other victories were against a horrible teams (Atlanta, Oakland, Detroit, San Fran, and Chicago).

That wasn't my main point Harv but it still is a fact. I watched the Denver game twice and there is no question he played as well as I've seen.


edit: it wasn't just that game. I am not suggesting he is a top NFL QB but you who think he ranks 32'd may be real disappointed this year.

[MadtownPacker]

Your recievers are good. But can they be as good without Favre? I guess we will find out in time.

Are you from Rastak's clan or did you come on a different boat? Welcome to the forum.

The WRs catch the ball when it gets to them. That wont change so if Rodgers can get them the ball, in stride like they got it last year then I see no reason they can't be productive and YAC it up like last year. If teams dare ARod to beat them and he stays healthy I can see DD, GJ, and JJ having big numbers early in the season.

[SMACKTALKIE]

Your recievers are good. But can they be as good without Favre? I guess we will find out in time.

Are you from Rastak's clan or did you come on a different boat? Welcome to the forum.

The WRs catch the ball when it gets to them. That wont change so if Rodgers can get them the ball, in stride like they got it last year then I see no reason they can't be productive and YAC it up like last year. If teams dare ARod to beat them and he stays healthy I can see DD, GJ, and JJ having big numbers early in the season.

Thanks for the welcome.

I don't know what clan Rastak is from but we both cheer on the same team.

I don't see A-Rog's health as a potential issue, I think being a back up can make players a bit more prone to injury. However it will be interesting to see how he and the O line handles the pressure of D fronts and blitzes the Packers have not seen in many years. Defenses will certainly plan differently for Rodgers than they did for Favre.

[MJZiggy]

See that's what I'm interested in seeing. I wanna see exactly how differently teams play us because of the changing of the guard. Welcome, by the way...

[pbmax]

I remember this breakdown as well, but it was the TE in motion that occupied Barnett's initial attention and slowed his drop into his zone.

It was pointed out earlier that asking the LB to drop to a zone 26 yards deep is a bit much, and it may be. But the point was that if Barnett had been in better position in his zone (ie. deeper than he was) then McNabb would have had to loft the ball more to drop it in the hole between Barnett and Sharper.

Lofting the ball would have given Sharper more time.

Hi, new guy here and I am a lifelong Vikings fan. I've been reading packerats since my pack fan buddy showed this site.


Anyway I just thought it should be pointed out that the "4th and 26" play was the direct result of then rookie Nick Barnett not being where he should have been. I can't remember if it was PA or not, but Barnett was too concerned with the RB and did not get the drop he should have. Not Sharper's fault.

[Iron Mike]

I think the addition of Jared Allen will help the pass D greatly.

Wrong.

I think The addition of Berrian will help Jackson greatly.

Wrong.

I think the subtraction of Favre will hinder Green Bay's O greatly in the running and passing game.

Wrong.

I won't go so far as to say the Viking's D is substantially better than Green Bay's........but better yes.

Wrong.

:P

[KYPack]

Nice to see that you are keeping track of shit, Ironman.

[mraynrand]

Where was 'day late, dollar short' Sharper last night? I don't recall seeing him.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Too busy trying to make a "big play". I've told friends this for years: if it's not an INT or a big hit, Sharper is not interested. All he had to do was fall on that fumble and that would have been huge. Instead he tries to pick it up and run with it to do something "spectacular" and he hurts his team.

Plus, that block by Hall on the long Grant run where he levels Sharper is awesome.

[MadtownPacker]

Damn I ran out of bad thing to say about sharper believe it or not.

[mraynrand]

Damn I ran out of bad thing to say about sharper believe it or not.

I can lend you a few if you like.

[Guiness]

Was he one of the two DB's falling over each other on Grant's long run?

Does anyone have a shot of that????

[Pacopete4]

The sad part is.. that clown will most likely be in the HOF due to his play making ability even though as a safety.. he's not that good

[Chevelle2]

[HarveyWallbangers]

The sad part is.. that clown will most likely be in the HOF due to his play making ability even though as a safety.. he's not that good

Nah, the odds are stacked against him. It's tough for safeties. If LeRoy Butler has a hard time getting in, you know Sharper's chances are small.