Bears QB competition to begin!(Chuckle)

[Pugger]

Orton and Wrecks have more starts than our guys but if I were a bare fan I wouldn't be all that comfortable with those two. Orton is very pedestrian - on any other team he'd be a 3rd string - and Wrecks can't hold onto the ball and is prone to meltdowns. I just can't imagin Rodgers playing that poorly this season, especially with MM in charge.

[The Leaper]

Let's trade them Flynn for their 2009 and 2010 first round picks.

[MadScientist]

Re: Bears QB competition to begin!(Chuckle)

"The Bears' defense hasn't made it particularly easy for coaches to evaluate the two in minicamp. Saturday, they intercepted each of the two quarterbacks three times in non-contact scrimmages."

It sounds to me like the defense is making it very easy to accurately evaluate those QB's.

[Gunakor]

i think rodgers is going to be good if not great, but i'm hesitant to gloat over the QB situation of any other team until we have a few games to see exactly where we are at in regards to the position.

would be funnier if they hadn't put that ass kicking on us in the wind and snow.

Its not funny at all considering we lost to them twice last year!

All remarks that could have been typed by me. I won't gloat over T-Jack or Kitna for the same reason.

Maybe it's because I work in sales and never slurr my competitor's products to win new customers, maybe it's because Aussies are taught to clap when the opposing side makes a great play, but I don't get excited about the potential woes of our division rivals. On the contrary, I much prefer the Pack to win hard fought contests against opponents of equal strength. To me, the Denver win last year was one of the highlights of my Packer fan-life.

I admit, the Vikings shutout was great, too! But I was enjoying it more while AP was in the game.

Whatever man, a hard asskicking of a division rival feels just as good as a hard fought down-to-the-wire victory.

You shouldn't feel bad about calling out the Bears for not having a quarterback. It's not really slurring them at all, because I can provide irrefutable evidence that they in fact do not have a quarterback. It's truth, not slander. They did it to themselves. Besides, I don't think the Bears have too many real fans left whose feelings could possibly be hurt by you telling them thier football team is terrible. Most of them already know.

[KYPack]

I still can't believe this organization is going into '08 with that cast of characters at QB. I think we easily have the best group at QB in the NFC North.

think about what you said KY. we've got the best (I agree), but ZERO starts among them, one with little experience and two that have never thrown a pass....

:P I LOVE Rex Grossman.... I hope the Bears keep him forever. I also hope to say that about Tavaris Jackson next season.

I did think a mite before I wrote that. I'm comparing our guys to Jackson, Kitna (with his micro hands), and Moe & Curley for the Bears. I say our boys hands down, ZERO starts or no.

My margin for error is high, but I'm stickin' to my story.

Pack QB's #1.

[DonHutson]

but I don't get excited about the potential woes of our division rivals. On the contrary, I much prefer the Pack to win hard fought contests against opponents of equal strength.

That's my logic for not caring about strength of schedule. I also don't like to see key injuries.

But player acquisition is a big part of the game. The Bears made choices that led them to this point. Bungling draft picks and free agency is no different to me than fumbling a snap or dropping a game winning TD. When the Bears (or Vikings, or Lions) do any of the above... it's funny.

[Tarlam!]

(...)Bungling draft picks and free agency is no different to me than fumbling a snap or dropping a game winning TD. When the Bears (or Vikings, or Lions) do any of the above... it's funny.

Sure, and I laugh my ass off at that shit. But you must acknowledge the truth that if our division rivals are good, our team needs to improve to beat them. And I like our team improving!

The first goal every year has to be to win 6 games and sweep your division. That's hard enough to do. If we had done that last year, we'd have been 15-1.

But we didn't beat Da Bears. Twice. So anybody ridiculing that team might want to wait until they don't sweep us again.

[Gunakor]

(...)Bungling draft picks and free agency is no different to me than fumbling a snap or dropping a game winning TD. When the Bears (or Vikings, or Lions) do any of the above... it's funny.

Sure, and I laugh my ass off at that shit. But you must acknowledge the truth that if our division rivals are good, our team needs to improve to beat them. And I like our team improving!

The first goal every year has to be to win 6 games and sweep your division. That's hard enough to do. If we had done that last year, we'd have been 15-1.

But we didn't beat Da Bears. Twice. So anybody ridiculing that team might want to wait until they don't sweep us again.

This isn't about the Chicago Bears football team. It is about thier quarterbacks, or lack therof. Neither Brian Griese nor Kyle Orton nor Rex Grossman beat us last year... or ever as long as I can remember.

As I recall, we were outright obliterating Chicago by halftime in Green Bay last year - to the tune of 350 yards of offense in the first half alone. Then Favre threw a pass to Brian Urlacher and our offense went into hibernation. We lost that game because we couldn't move the ball in the second half (not to mention 2 BS calls which turned into 10 Bears points, but we won't go there). Then in Chicago nobody in a Green Bay jersey save Ryan Grant looked like they wanted to be there in the first place. Favre was awful. Our line was awful. And our punter, well, awful doesn't do it justice. But niether game was won by a spectacular performance by a Chicago Bears QB. I'd say Green Bay beat themselves twice, but if you have to credit the Bears at all, it was the Bears defense that won those games.

[oregonpackfan]

(...)Bungling draft picks and free agency is no different to me than fumbling a snap or dropping a game winning TD. When the Bears (or Vikings, or Lions) do any of the above... it's funny.

Sure, and I laugh my ass off at that shit. But you must acknowledge the truth that if our division rivals are good, our team needs to improve to beat them. And I like our team improving!

The first goal every year has to be to win 6 games and sweep your division. That's hard enough to do. If we had done that last year, we'd have been 15-1.

But we didn't beat Da Bears. Twice. So anybody ridiculing that team might want to wait until they don't sweep us again.

This isn't about the Chicago Bears football team. It is about thier quarterbacks, or lack therof. Neither Brian Griese nor Kyle Orton nor Rex Grossman beat us last year... or ever as long as I can remember.

As I recall, we were outright obliterating Chicago by halftime in Green Bay last year - to the tune of 350 yards of offense in the first half alone. Then Favre threw a pass to Brian Urlacher and our offense went into hibernation. We lost that game because we couldn't move the ball in the second half (not to mention 2 BS calls which turned into 10 Bears points, but we won't go there). Then in Chicago nobody in a Green Bay jersey save Ryan Grant looked like they wanted to be there in the first place. Favre was awful. Our line was awful. And our punter, well, awful doesn't do it justice. But niether game was won by a spectacular performance by a Chicago Bears QB. I'd say Green Bay beat themselves twice, but if you have to credit the Bears at all, it was the Bears defense that won those games.

Gunakor,

A huge reason for the loss at Lambeau was James Jones twice losing the ball inside the Bears' 10 yard line in the first half. The Packers had two strong offensive drives squandered because of Jones' fumbles/strips.

While normally just a mediocre QB, Griese passed the ball very well against the Packers in the second half.

By the way, I was at that game as part of the First Annual Packer Rats gathering.

[Guiness]

(...)Bungling draft picks and free agency is no different to me than fumbling a snap or dropping a game winning TD. When the Bears (or Vikings, or Lions) do any of the above... it's funny.

Sure, and I laugh my ass off at that shit. But you must acknowledge the truth that if our division rivals are good, our team needs to improve to beat them. And I like our team improving!

The first goal every year has to be to win 6 games and sweep your division. That's hard enough to do. If we had done that last year, we'd have been 15-1.

But we didn't beat Da Bears. Twice. So anybody ridiculing that team might want to wait until they don't sweep us again.

This isn't about the Chicago Bears football team. It is about thier quarterbacks, or lack therof. Neither Brian Griese nor Kyle Orton nor Rex Grossman beat us last year... or ever as long as I can remember.

As I recall, we were outright obliterating Chicago by halftime in Green Bay last year - to the tune of 350 yards of offense in the first half alone. Then Favre threw a pass to Brian Urlacher and our offense went into hibernation. We lost that game because we couldn't move the ball in the second half (not to mention 2 BS calls which turned into 10 Bears points, but we won't go there). Then in Chicago nobody in a Green Bay jersey save Ryan Grant looked like they wanted to be there in the first place. Favre was awful. Our line was awful. And our punter, well, awful doesn't do it justice. But niether game was won by a spectacular performance by a Chicago Bears QB. I'd say Green Bay beat themselves twice, but if you have to credit the Bears at all, it was the Bears defense that won those games.

You have to realize of course that when you talk about the Pack-Bears rivalry, it's like no other probably anywhere in pro sports. About the closest I can think of is one in my backyard - the Leafs/Habs, but it's more competitive than acrimonious.

Sure, they beat us twice last year...just like we did the year they went 13-3. Neither of those things make sense. I don't ridicule/berate/take pleasure in the failings of any other team - but make make an exception for the Bears.

So, yes, I am quite enjoying the silliness that is their QB situation - one that I'm sure 31 executives in the NFL can see (I'm giving Matt Millen the benefit of the doubt here) but they can not. I do enjoy close fought, tough games, but am just as happy to see us pummel the Bears, as well as it happening to them 14 more times per season

[Tarlam!]

By the way, I was at that game as part of the First Annual Packer Rats gathering.

Yes, he was. I saw him there! In fact, he drove me back to my hotel after the game, for which I am eternally grateful!

[Scott Campbell]

(...)Bungling draft picks and free agency is no different to me than fumbling a snap or dropping a game winning TD. When the Bears (or Vikings, or Lions) do any of the above... it's funny.

Sure, and I laugh my ass off at that shit. But you must acknowledge the truth that if our division rivals are good, our team needs to improve to beat them. And I like our team improving!

The first goal every year has to be to win 6 games and sweep your division. That's hard enough to do. If we had done that last year, we'd have been 15-1.

But we didn't beat Da Bears. Twice. So anybody ridiculing that team might want to wait until they don't sweep us again.

Hating the Bears is something that just can't be properly nurtured abroad.

[Scott Campbell]

You have to realize of course that when you talk about the Pack-Bears rivalry, it's like no other probably anywhere in pro sports.

Yankee/RedSox fans would probably laugh at our quaint little rivalry, but I get what you mean.

[Gunakor]

(...)Bungling draft picks and free agency is no different to me than fumbling a snap or dropping a game winning TD. When the Bears (or Vikings, or Lions) do any of the above... it's funny.

Sure, and I laugh my ass off at that shit. But you must acknowledge the truth that if our division rivals are good, our team needs to improve to beat them. And I like our team improving!

The first goal every year has to be to win 6 games and sweep your division. That's hard enough to do. If we had done that last year, we'd have been 15-1.

But we didn't beat Da Bears. Twice. So anybody ridiculing that team might want to wait until they don't sweep us again.

This isn't about the Chicago Bears football team. It is about thier quarterbacks, or lack therof. Neither Brian Griese nor Kyle Orton nor Rex Grossman beat us last year... or ever as long as I can remember.

As I recall, we were outright obliterating Chicago by halftime in Green Bay last year - to the tune of 350 yards of offense in the first half alone. Then Favre threw a pass to Brian Urlacher and our offense went into hibernation. We lost that game because we couldn't move the ball in the second half (not to mention 2 BS calls which turned into 10 Bears points, but we won't go there). Then in Chicago nobody in a Green Bay jersey save Ryan Grant looked like they wanted to be there in the first place. Favre was awful. Our line was awful. And our punter, well, awful doesn't do it justice. But niether game was won by a spectacular performance by a Chicago Bears QB. I'd say Green Bay beat themselves twice, but if you have to credit the Bears at all, it was the Bears defense that won those games.

Gunakor,

A huge reason for the loss at Lambeau was James Jones twice losing the ball inside the Bears' 10 yard line in the first half. The Packers had two strong offensive drives squandered because of Jones' fumbles/strips.

While normally just a mediocre QB, Griese passed the ball very well against the Packers in the second half.

By the way, I was at that game as part of the First Annual Packer Rats gathering.

And yet, even with the 2 fumbles in the first half, Green Bay was absolutely dominating that game at halftime. I'm not going to imply that those fumbles didn't affect the outcome of the game, only to say that those fumbles weren't the only (or even the biggest) reason we lost that game. We were in control at halftime despite the two fumbles.

Actually, methinks the biggest reason we lost that game was Mike McCarthy's playcalling in the second half. Run on first down, run on second down, pass on third down(sometimes) and then punt. Every single possession it seemed was like that until Favre took control of the offense during the 2 min drill at the end of the game (coincidentally, that was the only drive that produced more than one first down during the entire second half). I remember quite clearly throwing every piece of foam I could grab at the TV that day screaming at McCarthy to THROW THE DAMN BALL.

I wish he coulda heard me, maybe we would have won that game. Again, despite JJ's 2 fumbles - which both occured in 30 minutes of football in which Green Bay's offense gained more yards than Chicago gained in an average full 60 minute session. When we strayed from the first half gameplan - i.e. when we took our foot off the gas and started playing conservatively - the Bears caught up and won.

I blame the INT thrown to Urlacher, I thought that kinda shook McCarthy a bit and ultimately led to his ultra-conservative playcalling. He started playing not to lose by running time off the clock instead of playing to win by putting more points on the board. I hope he takes something away from that. When you have an opponent by the throat, you squeeze until thier face turns blue. You never, ever, EVER take your foot off the gas IMO.

[Dabaddestbear]

I still can't believe this organization is going into '08 with that cast of characters at QB. I think we easily have the best group at QB in the NFC North.

Hmm, still think so?
Yep, that guy name Orton has been doing pretty good hasnt he? You guys have the worst group of QBs in the NFC North. The 2nd round pick got bumped down the depth chart by the 7th round pick!
Another fabulous early season bump...