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    Logjam at Middle Linebacker

    When the Green Bay Packers are forced with trimming their roster down to 53 players in early September, they could face some tough decisions at middle linebacker.

    The Packers currently have four middle linebackers that might deserve to be playing on Sundays, but unfortunately only one can play at a time.

    A lot can happen between now and September, but right now the Packers have Nick Barnett, Desmond Bishop, Abdul Hodge, and Danny Lansanah all pushing for playing time.

    Barnett is coming off his best season in the NFL at middle linebacker, and there's no reason to think he won't be the starter come opening day. At the very least, there's plenty of competition to keep Barnett sharp once training camp opens. Plus the Packers look to have a viable backup if anything should happen to Barnett.

    The top backup as of this moment is Bishop. With Barnett gone from this past Thursday's OTA practice, Bishop has been getting plenty of repetitions with the No. 1 defense too. And according to reports, Bishop has impressed.

    "Linebacker Desmond Bishop, who was playing middle linebacker with the No. 1 defense in place of the absent Nick Barnett, got his hands on another pass but couldn't haul it in," reports Rob Demovsky of the Green Bay Press-Gazette.

    One of the toughest battles of training camp will be between Bishop and Hodge. It appears Hodge is the healthiest he's been in years, and will be pushing for playing time.

    "The former third-round draft choice says his troublesome knees are in their best shape since his junior season at the University of Iowa," writes Mike Spofford of Packers.com.

    Fans will remember the impact Hodge made at the beginning of his rookie year before injuries slowed him down. Being a first day draft choice, there's hope that he can regain the form of his college days and early in his rookie year.

    Bishop spent a lot of time learning the outside linebacker positions last year in a reserve role. So perhaps the biggest compliment Hodge could possibly get is if the Packers decide to move Bishop to the outside full-time to Hodge could be the primary backup.

    Flying in under the radar may be Lansanah who likely happens to be the crown jewel of dozen or so undrafted rookies the Packers signed after the draft. An All-Big East first team selection, it was surprising Lansanah wasn't drafted after a stellar career at Connecticut.

    One key for Lansanah, as well as for Bishop and Hodge, will be special teams play. If any one of them is going to secure a roster spot, they're going to be competing with guys like Tracy White who make their living off becoming special teams demons.

    If there happens to be an injury to any of the players at the mike linebacker position, the Packers are covered. But it's doubtful the Packers will keep all four of them. It will be a battle to watch in August.
    I'm pulling for him, but Hodge has his work cut out for him. Anyone know anything about Lansanah?

  • #2
    I wondered the same thing, what is the story on Lansanah? Outside the starters and team members from last year, the papers should run a story on the players that were drafted and FA pick-ups. Everyone of them probably has a wow factor involved. Let's face it, it's a slow time of the year.
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    • #3
      The issue is that they want Brandon Chillar to learn all three positions. He has the capability to play all three although I don't know if you want him to.

      Linebacker is usually a position that they will skimp on if they can squeeze another defensive linemen or defensive back on the roster. Barnett, Popinga, and Hawk are pretty well conditioned, and outside of a broken hand by Barnett, and a blown ACL by Poppinga in his first season these guys are solid in the injury department. I have a hard time seeing them keeping more than 6.

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      • #4
        A proven starter, a decent backup, a guy recovering from serious injuries, and some undrafted rookie constitutes a logjam?

        I would say that's the bare minimum you need at any position this time of year.
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        • #5
          Stupid article. WR is a logjam, not MLB.
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          • #6
            I want to see Hodge run, before getting too excited about his recovery. He was thought by some to be too slow before his surgeries, and I doubt he has become any faster as a result of the surgeries. His size is more that of a free safety.

            Lansanah is this years version of Spencer Havner or Juwan Simpson. A guy with a very productive college career, whose shortcomings knocked him out of the draft. Every once in a while, one of those guys pans out as a legitimate player. We can hope he will be one, but certainly can't count on it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Patler
              Lansanah is this years version of Spencer Havner or Juwan Simpson. A guy with a very productive college career, whose shortcomings knocked him out of the draft.
              What is the deal with Havner, anway? I remember some pundits having him as a 1st day pick coming out.

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              • #8
                I've been a big fan of Bishop and a sort of a detractor of Hodge--ever since there was stupid talk of him replacing Barnett his rookie year.

                I'd like to see Bishop cross-trained as an OLB and become the top backup. I'd also like to see Popinga get some work at DE, especially if he gets replaced at OLB. Other than that, let the chips fall.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Leaper
                  Stupid article. WR is a logjam, not MLB.
                  Agree, but we are starved for any information this time of year, so the article gives us some.

                  And a sidenote, I think Hodge should be faster if his knees indeed feel fine, pain is a great reducer of 40 time.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Leaper
                    Stupid article. WR is a logjam, not MLB.
                    Don't know if I'd call it a stupid article - more of a feel good fluff piece to fill some newsprint about football this time of year :P

                    I kind of like these for what they're worth - give you a bit of a rundown of the various positions, remind you of who the camp bodies are, and an idea of what the depth chart might be.

                    I'd say LB in general, while maybe not logjammed, is a pretty sewn up position. Unless something pretty unexpected happens, Barnett, Hawk, Poppinga and Chillar are on the team - only Q might be which of the last 2 start. If Nutz is right, and they only keep 6, there's not a lot of room there!!!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Leaper
                      Stupid article. WR is a logjam, not MLB.
                      I agree to a point, but there is some merit to the article (and it is a slow time of the year). Just because we have alot of good WRs doesn't mean that we don't have a lot of good MLB.

                      You could also look at it this way. Only one player at at time can ever be on the field for MLB, whereas they'll often have 3 and 4 WRs on at any one time. Essentially, they like 4 times as many MLB as will ever be on the field at the same time, they don't like 4 times as many WRs as will ever be on the field at the same time.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                        I've been a big fan of Bishop and a sort of a detractor of Hodge--ever since there was stupid talk of him replacing Barnett his rookie year.
                        I don't know so much that there was talk of him replacing Barnett so much as there was musings that he might play inside and allow Barnett to play ouside, which many felt was his more natural position. Poppinga was coming off the IR and was certainly not a sure thing at that point.
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                        • #13
                          Barnett, Hawk, Popp, The special teams guy and Chillar are locks.

                          The battle will come down to Hodge and Bishop for the back-up spot in the middle.

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                          • #14
                            Unless Bishop gets hurt or didnt improve at all he is in. Hodge wont stick just because he cant get well. I mean doesnt he have a condition with his knees?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tony Oday
                              Unless Bishop gets hurt or didnt improve at all he is in. Hodge wont stick just because he cant get well. I mean doesnt he have a condition with his knees?
                              Did you read the article first? Hodge had surgery to repair his tendonitis or relieve the pain. He says he feels better now, and hasn't felt this good since his junior year in college. Who knows how long term the precedure was but I think he is at least fixed for now.


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                              Hawk
                              Barnett
                              Poppinga
                              Chillar
                              Tracy White
                              Bishop
                              Hodge
                              Lansanah
                              Havner

                              I guess seven or so can make this team, but only if the 2 or 3 reserve players are special team top performers.

                              Chillar isn't a lock to make the team, he needs to perform like any of the others, he could either be a starter on the strong side, or he could get his ass cut.

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