Logjam at Middle Linebacker

[Patler]

And a sidenote, I think Hodge should be faster if his knees indeed feel fine, pain is a great reducer of 40 time.

Na, the trainers' "goody bag" takes care of that!

[Tony Oday]

Unless Bishop gets hurt or didnt improve at all he is in. Hodge wont stick just because he cant get well. I mean doesnt he have a condition with his knees?

Did you read the article first? Hodge had surgery to repair his tendonitis or relieve the pain. He says he feels better now, and hasn't felt this good since his junior year in college. Who knows how long term the precedure was but I think he is at least fixed for now.


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Hawk
Barnett
Poppinga
Chillar
Tracy White
Bishop
Hodge
Lansanah
Havner

I guess seven or so can make this team, but only if the 2 or 3 reserve players are special team top performers.

Chillar isn't a lock to make the team, he needs to perform like any of the others, he could either be a starter on the strong side, or he could get his ass cut.

Hey I read it but its knees at a high impact position. I hope the best for hodge and bishop but I thought Hodge had a degenerative disease in his cartilage...ok I cant spell...so I would think this is a shorter term fix. Chillar will make the team

[KYPack]

Unless Bishop gets hurt or didnt improve at all he is in. Hodge wont stick just because he cant get well. I mean doesnt he have a condition with his knees?

Did you read the article first? Hodge had surgery to repair his tendonitis or relieve the pain. He says he feels better now, and hasn't felt this good since his junior year in college. Who knows how long term the precedure was but I think he is at least fixed for now.


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Hawk
Barnett
Poppinga
Chillar
Tracy White
Bishop
Hodge
Lansanah
Havner

I guess seven or so can make this team, but only if the 2 or 3 reserve players are special team top performers.

Chillar isn't a lock to make the team, he needs to perform like any of the others, he could either be a starter on the strong side, or he could get his ass cut.

Didn't we carry 5 backers for a bit last season?

Chillar makes the team, there Dep.

I'd say this is the list:

Hawk
Barnett
Poppinga
Chillar
Tracy White
Bishop


Hodge was slow the way it was, let alone after gettting cut on his knees.

I also think this article was lame. What logjam at the Mike?

[Bretsky]

Lansanah is this years version of Spencer Havner or Juwan Simpson. A guy with a very productive college career, whose shortcomings knocked him out of the draft.

What is the deal with Havner, anway? I remember some pundits having him as a 1st day pick coming out.

If memory serves me right bad bad character

[HarveyWallbangers]

Lansanah is this years version of Spencer Havner or Juwan Simpson. A guy with a very productive college career, whose shortcomings knocked him out of the draft.

What is the deal with Havner, anway? I remember some pundits having him as a 1st day pick coming out.

If memory serves me right bad bad character

No. I don't think so. I think it was more his athletic ability. You might be thinking of Rory Johnson or Juwan? Simpson--the two LBs we brought in last year.

[Patler]

Lansanah is this years version of Spencer Havner or Juwan Simpson. A guy with a very productive college career, whose shortcomings knocked him out of the draft.

What is the deal with Havner, anway? I remember some pundits having him as a 1st day pick coming out.

If memory serves me right bad bad character

No. I don't think so. I think it was more his athletic ability. You might be thinking of Rory Johnson or Juwan? Simpson--the two LBs we brought in last year.

I think Harvey's right. The issue with Havner I think was that he was looked at as a major overachiever even in college, based on his lack of natural athletic ability.

Didn't one of the two guys last year (Johnson and Simpson) have drug problems, and the other attitude/motivation uncertainties? I think both, but especially one, were quite gifted athletically, as I recall.

[Bretsky]

On another note this whole article is a joke; somebody out of these four will float back to sub par in all likely hood.......and we'll all be happy if three of these guys are decent. Holdge has underperformed since he got here. Bishop.......I like cause I think he can play specials. Who knows about the other yahoo.

We may have a logjam of quality at WR; but at MLB at this point we have Nick Barnett and a logjam of bodies.

[Patler]

Holdge has underperformed since he got here. Bishop.......I like cause I think he can play specials. Who knows about the other yahoo.

We may have a logjam of quality at WR; but at MLB at this point we have Nick Barnett and a logjam of bodies.

Agreed. Unless Hodge is dynamite this year as a linebacker, I think he has a very tough battle ahead. They tried him on ST his rookie season, and from many reports he was very, very bad. Maybe it was his knees, and he will be better this year. One would think his attitude would be perfect for ST. As of now, I think Bishop has a big advantage over Hodge because of ST.

I seriously doubt there will be a big line of other teams waiting to snatch up our middle linebacker rejects to use as their starter!

[Deputy Nutz]

Unless Bishop gets hurt or didnt improve at all he is in. Hodge wont stick just because he cant get well. I mean doesnt he have a condition with his knees?

Did you read the article first? Hodge had surgery to repair his tendonitis or relieve the pain. He says he feels better now, and hasn't felt this good since his junior year in college. Who knows how long term the precedure was but I think he is at least fixed for now.


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Hawk
Barnett
Poppinga
Chillar
Tracy White
Bishop
Hodge
Lansanah
Havner

I guess seven or so can make this team, but only if the 2 or 3 reserve players are special team top performers.

Chillar isn't a lock to make the team, he needs to perform like any of the others, he could either be a starter on the strong side, or he could get his ass cut.

Didn't we carry 5 backers for a bit last season?

Chillar makes the team, there Dep.

I'd say this is the list:

Hawk
Barnett
Poppinga
Chillar
Tracy White
Bishop


Hodge was slow the way it was, let alone after gettting cut on his knees.

I also think this article was lame. What logjam at the Mike?

If a younger guy out performs him, I bet they go with the younger guy, that is my only point. I am not saying I think Chillar stinks, if a Ted Thompson team has a way to get younger, it will.

[Deputy Nutz]

I am sorry, I honestly think Hodge is a better football player than Tracy White. He has a better pedigree. White is decent on special teams, and you need those guys, but Hodge should be a better football player.

[Tarlam!]

I am sorry, I honestly think Hodge is a better football player than Tracy White. He has a better pedigree. White is decent on special teams, and you need those guys, but Hodge should be a better football player.

I remember the vibe about Hodge. Nothing similar came about White. If Hodge lives up to his rap now that he is healthy, I'd say he gets the nod.

[Patler]

I am sorry, I honestly think Hodge is a better football player than Tracy White. He has a better pedigree. White is decent on special teams, and you need those guys, but Hodge should be a better football player.

I remember the vibe about Hodge. Nothing similar came about White. If Hodge lives up to his rap now that he is healthy, I'd say he gets the nod.

If the top 5 are Barnett, Hawk, Poppinga and Chillar; the 5th will be picked as much or more for play on ST as for play for scrimmage, That is why Hodge might be at a disadvantage to Bishop.

The 6th linebacker, if they even keep a 6th, will be kept almost exclusively based on ST performance, as he will likely not see the field otherwise, except maybe in mop-up duties. White has been a top ST performer his entire career.

That is why I see Hodge as having an uphill fight. I think he will have to be very impressive on D for the Packers to overlook the ST component usually required of the 4th, 5th and 6th linebackers, or he will have to show marked improvement on ST. He might be able to do either, or both, with his rejuvenated knees!

[CaptainKickass]

Re: Logjam at Middle Linebacker

[quote="vince"]http://www.railbirdcentral.com/2008/...inebacker.html

[quote]Logjam at Middle Linebacker

Fans will remember the impact Hodge made at the beginning of his rookie year before injuries slowed him down.[/quote]


I am a fan, and I don't "remember the impact". I do remember Hodge subbing for an injured Barnett against Seattle - and having a negative impact.


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[GrnBay007]

Re: Logjam at Middle Linebacker

I am a fan, and I don't "remember the impact". I do remember Hodge subbing for an injured Barnett against Seattle - and having a negative impact.


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Welcome back Captain......long time.

[Freak Out]

Re: Logjam at Middle Linebacker

[quote="CaptainKickass"][quote="vince"]http://www.railbirdcentral.com/2008/...inebacker.html

Logjam at Middle Linebacker

Fans will remember the impact Hodge made at the beginning of his rookie year before injuries slowed him down.[/quote]


I am a fan, and I don't "remember the impact". I do remember Hodge subbing for an injured Barnett against Seattle - and having a negative impact.


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I remember Hodge not being able to chase down guys from behind when Barnett could at least do that.