Breaking News: Bears release Benson

[Tyrone Bigguns]

The jokes are all well and good, but dude drove drunk enough to get arrested and didn't think he committed any kind of crime???

The sad news is that just because he's going away doesn't mean he's not taking alcoholism that he won't admit to with him. I hope he figures it out before he kills someone. There's a good chance he's already screwed his career beyond repair wonder what he'll end up doing.

We now return you to the Bad News Bears jokes...

I hear you, but until we exactly know how much he drank..i think we should hold off.

In AZ it is virtually impossible to have one drink and not be busted for DUI. And, even if you are below the legal limit the cops still can bust you.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a problem, but he very well coulda had 3 drinks in 2 hours at dinner and have been busted. That isn't a drinking problem.

[Scott Campbell]

That isn't a drinking problem.

LOL


He got arrested. He lost his job. He potentially lost millions of dollars. I'd call it a problem - but that's just me.

[sheepshead]

The biggest, most expensive crap shoot in all of sports, The NFL Draft. We need a rookie cap now!

[MJZiggy]

The jokes are all well and good, but dude drove drunk enough to get arrested and didn't think he committed any kind of crime???

The sad news is that just because he's going away doesn't mean he's not taking alcoholism that he won't admit to with him. I hope he figures it out before he kills someone. There's a good chance he's already screwed his career beyond repair wonder what he'll end up doing.

We now return you to the Bad News Bears jokes...

I hear you, but until we exactly know how much he drank..i think we should hold off.

In AZ it is virtually impossible to have one drink and not be busted for DUI. And, even if you are below the legal limit the cops still can bust you.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a problem, but he very well coulda had 3 drinks in 2 hours at dinner and have been busted. That isn't a drinking problem.

I'd likely agree with you if it hadn't happened twice.

[bobblehead]

Glad I left the old JS site otherwise I woulda opened a page full of "Dude, we gotta pick up cedric benson"

[MJZiggy]

We do some of that here, but we do tend to know a turd when we see one...

[Tyrone Bigguns]

That isn't a drinking problem.

LOL


He got arrested. He lost his job. He potentially lost millions of dollars. I'd call it a problem - but that's just me.

I'd say that is a stupidity issue...not necessarily drinking. Plenty of young guys have stupidity issues.

We have no "evidence" of how drunk he was...let's wait and see. If he was .085 i dont' say that is a drinking problem..i say that is just being stupid.

Arrested: That is what happens when you refuse a breathalyzer and blood tests. but, that is exactly what you should do if stopped by a cop...any attorney will tell you that.

If we define it by your terms...he'll have another job, he banked 17 mill, etc.

[GrnBay007]

In AZ it is virtually impossible to have one drink and not be busted for DUI. And, even if you are below the legal limit the cops still can bust you.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a problem, but he very well coulda had 3 drinks in 2 hours at dinner and have been busted. That isn't a drinking problem.

1 drink = .08? no way! Unless you consider a glass of vodka a "drink".

I also don't see 3 drinks in a 2 hour period at dinner a possibility with a guy his size.

Now maybe he refused to blow and they charged him with DUI....but that means he also would have had to not pass the field sobriety tests for that to happen.

[retailguy]

Seeing #5 picks like Benson make you appreciate guys like Hawk that much more.

I think that Cedric was the 4th pick.... but hey, you got close!

[bobblehead]

the only way an attorny would tell you to refuse is if you thought there was a chance you would fail the test. Now that being said, I'm not convinced he has a drinking problem, probably much less than I did at his age, but my body wasn't my livelihood either.

[MadtownPacker]

That isn't a drinking problem.

LOL


He got arrested. He lost his job. He potentially lost millions of dollars. I'd call it a problem - but that's just me.

I'd say that is a stupidity issue...not necessarily drinking. Plenty of young guys have stupidity issues.

We have no "evidence" of how drunk he was...let's wait and see. If he was .085 i dont' say that is a drinking problem..i say that is just being stupid.

Arrested: That is what happens when you refuse a breathalyzer and blood tests. but, that is exactly what you should do if stopped by a cop...any attorney will tell you that.

If we define it by your terms...he'll have another job, he banked 17 mill, etc.

Well, we both know I can admit I am wrong but I see you dont know when to quit. Do I need to bump the bentson thread from the boat party? You know, the one where you said he was being profiled or some BS??

You talk alot of shit about racism but have you actually ever been discriminated against for anything besides being an arrogant asshole?

[cpk1994]

There is an irony now with the Cover of ESPN Magazine that had Cedric with the line, "I am NOT Ricky Williams!". No, Cedric, you are an alcoholic instead of a pothead.

[RashanGary]

There is an irony now with the Cover of ESPN Magazine that had Cedric with the line, "I am NOT Ricky Williams!". No, Cedric, you are an alcoholic instead of a pothead.

Not as good as Ricky either. Ricky was a player when he wanted to be. Benson just sucked.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

In AZ it is virtually impossible to have one drink and not be busted for DUI. And, even if you are below the legal limit the cops still can bust you.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a problem, but he very well coulda had 3 drinks in 2 hours at dinner and have been busted. That isn't a drinking problem.

1 drink = .08? no way! Unless you consider a glass of vodka a "drink".

I also don't see 3 drinks in a 2 hour period at dinner a possibility with a guy his size.

Now maybe he refused to blow and they charged him with DUI....but that means he also would have had to not pass the field sobriety tests for that to happen.

007,

One, i apologize for being unclear. I wasn't referring to him specifically with one drink. More like the average person...especially women out here. But, you are also thinking that you wait an hour..metastisizing (sp?) it..could be a quick drink and then hit the road.

As for Benson..point taken. But, easily could have 4/5..in 2 hours..and that ain't a ton.

But, you are missing the crux...which is you don't have to be over the limit to get a DUI. Sorry, but in AZ they can still bust you if you are way below the limit. We have cases of people arrested for .02.

Benson claims he passed the field sobriety test. More importantly, you dont' have to consent to doing it...and you will get brought downtown..which an atty will tell you is the right thing to do.

Let me give you this little example to make you think. Recently, a dui atty and his wife and friend were stopped. The wife had not been drinking at all. the two had been..celebrating the acceptance into law school of the friend. The cop who pulled the suv over was the same cop who the dui atty beat in court a couple of months prior. The cop claims he didn't know it was the atty...highly unlikely as SOP is to run the plates....and the atty identified himself when pulled over and showed his bar card.

They were pulled over because she hadn't flipped on the lights of the Suv...she was unfamiliar with it. Yes, a mistake..and should be stopped.

Anyway, without EVEN ASKING HER IF SHE HAD BEEN DRINKING HE ORDERED HER OUT OF THE VEHICLE AND DEMANDED A FIELD SOBRIETY TEST.

Hmm, i've forgotten to turn on my lights..and it hasn't been because i've been drinking. I've also rolled thru stop signs, failed to yield, didn't put on my blinker, etc....none of which means that i've been drinking....USUALLY ON CRACK!!!

Anyway, the cop said she had been drinking (this is all on the report), had watery eyes, flushed face, smelled of alcohol, etc. Her husband asked what was going on..cop was not nice. Husband advised her not to take field sobriety test...as side of the road......thick gravel..she in strappy high heels...a recipe for failure. She was arrested.

Now, of course, later on she was exonerated. THe cop in previous testimony admitted he pulled people over at night for things he wouldn't during the day. When asked about a quota. Cop admitted that he liked to make 3 arrests for DUI.

Now, let's make you we are clear here...as it may be different where you live. In AZ..if you refuse a breathalyzer/blood... the police confiscate your license right away and suspend it for a year. By refusing, you're admitting guilt.

But that is not true for field sobriety tests. They are supposed to be optional.

But, according to the cop..he had no choice but to arrest her. SHE NEVER REFUSED THOSE...just a field sobriety test. AND, THEY HAVE PORTABLE BREATHALYZERS.

And, when her husband asked why she was being arrested...no answer..just cuffs.

All this happened to a designated driver...and one whose husband specializes in dui law. Just think what woulda happened and the result for someone who doens't have an atty husband. Ok, maybe you get off...clear your name...just for a couple thousand dollars.

I do believe that cops are there to protect you, however, when it comes to traffic infractions and DUI....you can't trust them. From the minute they pull you over you are guilty of being drunk..and they are building a case against you.

It is all about revenue.

Now, before you dismiss this as more Tyrone bs....Alexander Wagenaar is a professor of epidemiology and health policy at the University of Florida. We are not on the same page...he'd like to see the United States set the legal limit even lower than 0.08, as it is in Europe.

But, as much as i disagree with that i can't deny his cred...studying what actually reduces drunk driving — and his results don't jibe with our current methods. Mandatory jail time and heavy fines, his studies conclude, are not effective deterrents. And, isn't the real purpose to deter drunk driving?

Far more effective, are immediate license revocations. If it happens quickly, and happens to everyone who's busted, revocation isa serious deterrent according to him.

The point of long jail sentences and fat fines isn't deterrence — it's punishment.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

the only way an attorny would tell you to refuse is if you thought there was a chance you would fail the test. Now that being said, I'm not convinced he has a drinking problem, probably much less than I did at his age, but my body wasn't my livelihood either.

Sorry, you are wrong.