Breaking News: Bears release Benson

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I'll give you the benefit that you MEANT to refuse field tests, but what you said was..well, above.

If I were you, I wouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt. It's amazing how often Elmer is wrong.

Now harv, i know you have a chubby right now...but, give it a rest.

Clearly, and long before Bobble posted to my point..i said field sobriety and atty in my post to 007. Read, then choke on it..bitch.

I right way more often than i'm wrong..if we are talking facts. Please show me FACTUALLY WHERE I'M SO OFTEN WRONG.

If we are talking about your viewpoint..well, that is a matter of opinion.

[bobblehead]

That isn't a drinking problem.

LOL


He got arrested. He lost his job. He potentially lost millions of dollars. I'd call it a problem - but that's just me.

I'd say that is a stupidity issue...not necessarily drinking. Plenty of young guys have stupidity issues.

We have no "evidence" of how drunk he was...let's wait and see. If he was .085 i dont' say that is a drinking problem..i say that is just being stupid.

Arrested: That is what happens when you refuse a breathalyzer and blood tests. but, that is exactly what you should do if stopped by a cop...any attorney will tell you that.

If we define it by your terms...he'll have another job, he banked 17 mill, etc.

I'll give you the benefit that you MEANT to refuse field tests, but what you said was..well, above.

That being said, I agree, don't do a field test, if you are sure you can pass a breathalyzer and they want to give you a field test tell them you'll consent to a breathalyzer. If you fail a field test and blow a .03 they can still arrest you. If you simply blow a .03 and they arrest you it will never hold in court.

Yeah, i see where i missed the B in the A to B to C. Clearly i was saying if you refuse the b/bt..you get arrested. I left out sobriety when talking about atty.

I guess we are differing a bit. I say don't do the field sobriety...they can't arrest you. Make the burden be on them to prove you were drunk. Give them as little to work with as possible.

But, you are wrong on the arrest part. In AZ, if you read the articles..you can be arrested at any amount...if they determine you are impaired. That is the whole crux..and that is why you don't want to give them ammo.

I'm not wrong on the arrest part. I said if you never failed a field test and they arrest you it will never hold in court, I agree they still can arrest you, but as you say, their ammo to prove intoxication based solely on a .03 won't hold much water.

We are pretty much in agreement here. (Except I think Benson is an asshat who got what he deserved).

[Tyrone Bigguns]

That isn't a drinking problem.

LOL


He got arrested. He lost his job. He potentially lost millions of dollars. I'd call it a problem - but that's just me.

I'd say that is a stupidity issue...not necessarily drinking. Plenty of young guys have stupidity issues.

We have no "evidence" of how drunk he was...let's wait and see. If he was .085 i dont' say that is a drinking problem..i say that is just being stupid.

Arrested: That is what happens when you refuse a breathalyzer and blood tests. but, that is exactly what you should do if stopped by a cop...any attorney will tell you that.

If we define it by your terms...he'll have another job, he banked 17 mill, etc.

I'll give you the benefit that you MEANT to refuse field tests, but what you said was..well, above.

That being said, I agree, don't do a field test, if you are sure you can pass a breathalyzer and they want to give you a field test tell them you'll consent to a breathalyzer. If you fail a field test and blow a .03 they can still arrest you. If you simply blow a .03 and they arrest you it will never hold in court.

Yeah, i see where i missed the B in the A to B to C. Clearly i was saying if you refuse the b/bt..you get arrested. I left out sobriety when talking about atty.

I guess we are differing a bit. I say don't do the field sobriety...they can't arrest you. Make the burden be on them to prove you were drunk. Give them as little to work with as possible.

But, you are wrong on the arrest part. In AZ, if you read the articles..you can be arrested at any amount...if they determine you are impaired. That is the whole crux..and that is why you don't want to give them ammo.

I'm not wrong on the arrest part. I said if you never failed a field test and they arrest you it will never hold in court, I agree they still can arrest you, but as you say, their ammo to prove intoxication based solely on a .03 won't hold much water.

We are pretty much in agreement here. (Except I think Benson is an asshat who got what he deserved).

See, i think we disagree. The courts will still favor the cop and the low BAC..it is their word against yours. And, despite presumption of innocence...in DUI cases these days...you are guilty until proven innocent. And, we all know cops will "alter" the facts to suit the case....slurred speech, watery eyes, etc.

Furthermore..if you go to court...yikes. I know i wouldn't want to go without an atty..and that is going to cost around 3K. Great!!

Benson...i just think he is stupid. But, i don't distinguish him from most 25 year olds. Plenty of stupid 25 year olds..and it seems to multiply with more money.

[motife]

BEARS DEFENSE WASN’T FOND OF CEDRIC BENSON
Posted by Josh Alper on June 11, 2008, 10:40 a.m.
Cedric Benson may be convinced that the police in Texas have him in their crosshairs but his problems with uniformed groups didn’t end when he crossed the state line.

According to Jay Glazer, Benson was not well-liked by his teammates on the Bears either. He went on Dan Patrick’s radio program yesterday, via MJD at Yahoo! Sports, and recounted a tale from the 2006 training camp. Thomas Jones and Lovie Smith were feuding and some Bears vets felt that Benson was getting handed the starting job prematurely, an idea they couldn’t get behind. “Hell, one year they tried to hurt him to make sure that Thomas Jones was going to be the starter. That’s how bad it was with that team,” Glazer told Patrick.

When Patrick asked if he got the information from a Bears player, Glazer responded “No, it wasn’t a Bears defensive player. It was about ten of them.”

[oregonpackfan]

BEARS DEFENSE WASN’T FOND OF CEDRIC BENSON
Posted by Josh Alper on June 11, 2008, 10:40 a.m.
Cedric Benson may be convinced that the police in Texas have him in their crosshairs but his problems with uniformed groups didn’t end when he crossed the state line.

According to Jay Glazer, Benson was not well-liked by his teammates on the Bears either. He went on Dan Patrick’s radio program yesterday, via MJD at Yahoo! Sports, and recounted a tale from the 2006 training camp. Thomas Jones and Lovie Smith were feuding and some Bears vets felt that Benson was getting handed the starting job prematurely, an idea they couldn’t get behind. “Hell, one year they tried to hurt him to make sure that Thomas Jones was going to be the starter. That’s how bad it was with that team,” Glazer told Patrick.

When Patrick asked if he got the information from a Bears player, Glazer responded “No, it wasn’t a Bears defensive player. It was about ten of them.”

I listened to that description live on ESPN radio as well. It was quite an interesting situation.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Honestly, is this the best they can find to go after Benson.

A highly paid rookie that is being "given" the job over a popular incumbent, and the vets aren't happy about it? Shocking.

[Dabaddestbear]

Forte and Adrian Peterson Version 2.0 as your top 2 backs? Yuck

Rashaan Salaam, Curtis Enis, Cedric Benson

no, Forte and Kevin Jones....Yeah!

[arcilite]

hey douchebag

stop bumping old threads

[Dabaddestbear]

hey douchebag

stop bumping old threads

Stop making stupid threads and comments and I will have none to bump.
I only bump the ones in which to make people eat crow. If you dont like it then dont read them.

[Dabaddestbear]

hey douchebag

stop bumping old threads

better yet....you just bumped this thread when you responded..lol --- SUCKA!!!

[HarveyWallbangers]

Bears win = fart in the wind

[mission]

The fuckin Bears win and this forum turns into BEARRATS with every retarded Bear thread coming back to the top and a "i told you so"

I was actually out watching the sunday night game and when the game appeared to be over, i thought to myself "some idiot bear fan is gonna be all over PR" .... my girl didnt quite get the comment. she was pretty upset about her colts, but i made her feel all better so no worries!

ZOMG THE BEARS WON WTF BBQ I CANT BELIEVE IT




how's that saying go?

act like you've been there (done that) before...

[Dabaddestbear]

Bears win = fart in the wind

Ahh, my ole friend Harvey.
Well its a new season and I will be ready to root against the Packers every chance I get-- Starting 2nite!

[Bossman641]

Bears win = fart in the wind

Ahh, my ole friend Harvey.
Well its a new season and I will be ready to root against the Packers every chance I get-- Starting 2nite!

You'd have a lot more credibility if you showed up more than once every 2 months to bump a ton of Bear threads. Then when they lose and begin to suck you disappear again.

[Dabaddestbear]

Bears win = fart in the wind

Ahh, my ole friend Harvey.
Well its a new season and I will be ready to root against the Packers every chance I get-- Starting 2nite!

You'd have a lot more credibility if you showed up more than once every 2 months to bump a ton of Bear threads. Then when they lose and begin to suck you disappear again.

Aww man please. I am here throughout the Season. I just dont see as much fun sticking around anymore during the off season.
Check my post count and time. I am here during the ENTIRE "season". I am around even when they suck(which is not often in comparison to the Packers over the past several years) because I can still talk smack about the Packers.

I am a Bear fan, so of course I will bump stupid Bear threads that Packer fans make to shove it down your throats...lol. Thats my Job as a irritating Bears fan