Is Rodgers Ready?

[Patler]

People just don't love Tory Humphrey with the same emotion as Favre. Yet I can see your point.

It's not just the Tory Humphreys of the team that we are civil about. We have discussed with reasonable civility the likes of Donald Driver (remember the "is a a #1 receiver" debates?), Aaron Kampman ("is he really pro-bowl caliber?"), Ahman Green, Nick Barnett, etc.. It really is ONLY about Favre that a great many on here will immediately move into attack mode when a negative comment is made.

Personally, I would like to be able to discuss some of the things that people saw as negative traits of his. Maybe in 5 or 10 years we can.

[HarveyWallbangers]

For those who claim to "remember" the blackhole of quarterbacking in Green Bay in the 1970s and 1980s, I would only comment that the Packers had Lynn Dickey for 9 of those seasons, and Don Majkowski for 5.

Majkowski didn't become the starting QB until 1989--although he did share duties with Randy Wright in 1988.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d808af0cd&template=with-video&confirm=true

Posted: 06/05/2008

Rodgers' road to starting job will only make QB tougher

By Solomon Wilcots NFL Network

"I took the (road) less traveled by, and that has made all the difference." -- Robert Frost, from his poem "The Road Not Taken"

Like Frost, Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers, for whom nothing has ever come easy, has taken a divergent path in his life.

Ignored by college scouts, Rodgers was not recruited during his two-year run as the starting quarterback at Pleasant Valley High School in Chico, Calif. Discovered only when a college recruiter from Cal attended a game to scout one of Rodgers' teammates, the overlooked quarterback scratched and clawed his way to a 17-5 record as the field general for the Golden Bears.

Expected to become a top-10 pick in the 2005 NFL Draft, Rodgers fell down the board. Landing softly as the 24th overall pick of the Green Bay Packers, Rodgers was destined to languish in the shadow of Brett Favre for three years as a backup to a Lambeau legend.

Aaron Rodgers, QB Green Bay Packers
Career Statistics Attempts: 59 Completions: 35 Yards: 329 TDs/INTs: 1/1

See LINK for the rest of this story.

[Patler]

For those who claim to "remember" the blackhole of quarterbacking in Green Bay in the 1970s and 1980s, I would only comment that the Packers had Lynn Dickey for 9 of those seasons, and Don Majkowski for 5.

Majkowski didn't become the starting QB until 1989--although he did share duties with Randy Wright in 1988.

Majkowski took over in 1988, but not at the start of the season. I think most fans thought he should have been. They shared duties in 1987, with Majkowski starting 5 games. They went into 1988 with Wright as the starter, but Majkowski took over after 5 games and started the next 8. He would have finished out as starter, but was injured so Wright started a couple more until Majkowski came back.

[woodbuck27]

Hey can we re-focus here?

"I know I'll always be compared to Brett, and will never live up to his records and historical achievements," said Rodgers, who plans to deflect the pressure of following Favre by placing most of the burden on his teammates. "I'm not the guy who has to make it all happen. We're deep at wide receiver, especially with the addition of our top pick, Jordy Nelson. Our running back (Ryan Grant) is a stud and we have great depth. I know my role, but the pieces are in place. It's going to be a team effort if we are going to have a successful season." Aaron Rodgers

GO Aaron GO !!!

[cpk1994]

See Letterman.

After his retirement, Favre put himself in the national spotlight only once - the Letterman appearance. Unintentionally, he created national headlines with the comments about the only way he'd ever see himself coming back would be for the perfect cinderella ending if Rodgers got hurt going into the playoffs. And that was only after the media were repeatedly bombarding him with "would you come back if..." scenarios.

The media chases Favre, not the other way around. If he really craved attention, he'd have his own damn reality show by now - "Who Wants to Mow Brett Favre's Lawn?" or something like that.

The media keeps hounding him BECUASE HE KEEPS LETTING THEM. He needs to learn to quit answering questions entirely or respond with "I'm retired. Period." Favre hsa absloutely no clue how to properly deal with the press.

[cpk1994]

Why is any negative Favre comment almost always responded to with name-calling and extreme personal attacks? We get down on that type of activity in most all other situations.

How about unemotional discussion of their viewpoints?

Becuase almost all Favre fans believe in the credo "Brett Favre is a god and no one sall criticize him". and get all butthurt when someone dares to differ with that.

[woodbuck27]

Why is any negative Favre comment almost always responded to with name-calling and extreme personal attacks? We get down on that type of activity in most all other situations.

How about unemotional discussion of their viewpoints?

Becuase almost all Favre fans believe in the credo "Brett Favre is a god and no one sall criticize him". and get all butthurt when someone dares to differ with that.

What is ** your evidence to support your claim that any member is so foolhardy to even suggest Favre is GOD or a god?

Find ** it... or make an apology to the forum. A man backs himself up or learns less ignorance.

I'm pulling for you to grow.

[bobblehead]

Woodbuck, I don't dispute any of favres great accomplishments. He was a great great QB, and I was happy I got to watch him lineup for my team. I was very happy he HELPED put GB back on the football map. I am completely aware of him being the #1 contributor to our long run of .500 or better seasons.

All that being said in your quoting his wonderful records you forgot his interception record...or should I say you failed to document it. For all his talents and skills, after Holmgren left, no one held him accountable to put in the time in the film room. No one held him accountable for showing up with tendinitis every year because he wasn't working an offseason throwing program. No one held him accountable to play within the offense. They all just got on his cock like you are until MM came along.

Most people who lived in GB in those early BF years can tell you he was often out partying on saturday night and drunk off his rocker. If he woud have been committed during the sherman years like MM made him commit we might have won 2 more superbowls.

He was an iron man, tough as nails, and I wish he were back for one more committed year, but he was not infaliable. He was human, and me pointing out his human flaws in no way is it a case of me dismissing what he did accomplish or disrespecting the man. But remember, he was just that, a man, no more worthy of adolation than any other.

Charles Barkley did a commercial once saying "I am not a role model." If you have children I hope you teach them to live a good clean life and always strive to do the right thing. Teaching them to idolize a dude who was gifted with a cannon for an arm and remarkeable endurance to pain isn't why we are on this earth.

[Patler]

Why is any negative Favre comment almost always responded to with name-calling and extreme personal attacks? We get down on that type of activity in most all other situations.

How about unemotional discussion of their viewpoints?

Becuase almost all Favre fans believe in the credo "Brett Favre is a god and no one sall criticize him". and get all butthurt when someone dares to differ with that.

The problem is also that the name calling and personal attacks go both directions. A Favre criticism is met with a personal attack, which is responded to with another personal attack, and on and on.

[cpk1994]

Why is any negative Favre comment almost always responded to with name-calling and extreme personal attacks? We get down on that type of activity in most all other situations.

How about unemotional discussion of their viewpoints?

Becuase almost all Favre fans believe in the credo "Brett Favre is a god and no one sall criticize him". and get all butthurt when someone dares to differ with that.

What is ** your evidence to support your claim that any member is so foolhardy to even suggest Favre is GOD or a god?

Find ** it... or make an apology to the forum. A man backs himself up or learns less ignorance.

I'm pulling for you to grow.

Have you read any of this thread? I posted many times slamming Favre and Deputy Nutz threw a temper tantrum. You are either blind or on mind altering substances. My guess would be the latter becuase in this thread for the most part you have been posting to yourself.

[cpk1994]

Why is any negative Favre comment almost always responded to with name-calling and extreme personal attacks? We get down on that type of activity in most all other situations.

How about unemotional discussion of their viewpoints?

Becuase almost all Favre fans believe in the credo "Brett Favre is a god and no one sall criticize him". and get all butthurt when someone dares to differ with that.

The problem is also that the name calling and personal attacks go both directions. A Favre criticism is met with a personal attack, which is responded to with another personal attack, and on and on.

Touche. I should not have stooped to Nutz level even though he was pissing me off with his childish antics.

[Chubbyhubby]

Re: Favre

I was sick of Favre 3 years ago. The Rodgers talk is at least something somewhat new.

I would love to lock you in a room for 48 hours and make you watch film on Campbell, Hunter, Tagee (or what-ever the hell his name was), Wright and all the other clowns that have come though GB in the 20 something years before Favre.

Now THAT would be something you'd get sick over........................

Amen to that! I still have flashbacks of the Anthony Dilwegs and Blair Kiels of the past.

#4 obviously has made many in Packer nation forget the black hole of Green Bay QB's from the 70's and 80's. If my memory serves me, only Dickey, Whitehurst and Majkowski had moments of greatness. But these were few and far between.

David Whitehurst, I was in my early teens and my father took us to Lambeau Field practice facilty. I got his autograph. That was my first sports figure autograph. It was cool!

[RashanGary]

bobblehead, you are a kick ass poster. I hope you stick around.

[bobblehead]

then don't go starting no poll trying to vote me out like you did yourself....I might not make it :P