Is Rodgers Ready?

[FavreChild]

So when asked a question that might cause a furor, how do you respond? The first thing that comes to mind? An immediate denial of whatever is being asked? Skirt the question?


What do they teach people at media relations school?

Actually, there are a couple of different things you can do, if you really want to know.

First of all, most likely the question can be anticipated, and a prepared answer will be ready.

Second, if asked a critical question, you should make a simple denial - although do NOT repeat the negative charge. Example: A reporter asks, "Don't you think it will hurt the team if you hold out?" The player should answer simply, "No." The player should NOT say, "No, I don't think I'm hurting the team by holding out." See, that quote would go right in the paper or on TV, it will remind people of the bad thing going on, and it will piss people off.

Third, after a simple denial, you need to "bridge" to something positive. In the example above, the player should say something like, "No. The way I see it, our team can only grow stronger when each and every individual feels like they are deserved and appreciated." (Or some BS like that.) So, you see, the media can only quote what you say - so only say positive things.

People that are well trained in media relations know how to "bridge" out of any question. Which, in a roundabout sort of way, can be the equivalent of skirting the question - but not always.

Some examples of "bridges" that you commonly here might be the following:

"Look, the facts are...."

"I don't know, but let me tell you what I do know..."

"That's important, but the truly critical question is...."

"No, that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is..."

"Opinions can differ, but what I believe is..."

"The reality of the situation is..."

Sound familiar?

This is a key strategy, because you can always connect any question back to the message YOU want to get across. I can tell that TT has been trained, although he either isn't as good as some at pretending to be genuinely answering the question, or he doesn't care to appear that way.

Are you sorry you asked?

[Rastak]

So when asked a question that might cause a furor, how do you respond? The first thing that comes to mind? An immediate denial of whatever is being asked? Skirt the question?


What do they teach people at media relations school?

Actually, there are a couple of different things you can do, if you really want to know.

First of all, most likely the question can be anticipated, and a prepared answer will be ready.

Second, if asked a critical question, you should make a simple denial - although do NOT repeat the negative charge. Example: A reporter asks, "Don't you think it will hurt the team if you hold out?" The player should answer simply, "No." The player should NOT say, "No, I don't think I'm hurting the team by holding out." See, that quote would go right in the paper or on TV, it will remind people of the bad thing going on, and it will piss people off.

Third, after a simple denial, you need to "bridge" to something positive. In the example above, the player should say something like, "No. The way I see it, our team can only grow stronger when each and every individual feels like they are deserved and appreciated." (Or some BS like that.) So, you see, the media can only quote what you say - so only say positive things.

People that are well trained in media relations know how to "bridge" out of any question. Which, in a roundabout sort of way, can be the equivalent of skirting the question - but not always.

Some examples of "bridges" that you commonly here might be the following:

"Look, the facts are...."

"I don't know, but let me tell you what I do know..."

"That's important, but the truly critical question is...."

"No, that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is..."

"Opinions can differ, but what I believe is..."

"The reality of the situation is..."

Sound familiar?

This is a key strategy, because you can always connect any question back to the message YOU want to get across. I can tell that TT has been trained, although he either isn't as good as some at pretending to be genuinely answering the question, or he doesn't care to appear that way.

Are you sorry you asked?

Not sorry at all. Thanks!

It was actually an honest question. It seems athletes screw this stuff up left and right. Take Chad Johnson as a good example. TO is another great example.

What you say does make sense, and is somewhat common sense (somewhat) it seems to me. Many athletes seem to have problems following these basic ideas. Tons of them actually.

[FavreChild]

There definitely is a lot of common sense involved - but it does take a lot of practice to master. I mean, most people hate public speaking. Then you add the intimidation of a bunch of cameras and the idea that you are being recorded and quoted. Then throw in some nasty questions or a troublesome situation....most people cannot handle the pressure. That's why training and practice is very useful. It sounds simple enough, but in the heat of the moment, it usually doesn't work out. Of course, many athletes are arrogant and/or they just don't give a shit. So they just keep saying stupid stuff. Sometimes it's entertaining...as long as it's not a guy on your own team, of course.

[Rastak]

There definitely is a lot of common sense involved - but it does take a lot of practice to master. I mean, most people hate public speaking. Then you add the intimidation of a bunch of cameras and the idea that you are being recorded and quoted. Then throw in some nasty questions or a troublesome situation....most people cannot handle the pressure. That's why training and practice is very useful. It sounds simple enough, but in the heat of the moment, it usually doesn't work out. Of course, many athletes are arrogant and/or they just don't give a shit. So they just keep saying stupid stuff. Sometimes it's entertaining...as long as it's not a guy on your own team, of course.

I have to admit my first reaction would be to say what I was thinking.

I think you are right about training and practice.....a wise move for the popular athlete.

[woodbuck27]

Why is any negative Favre comment almost always responded to with name-calling and extreme personal attacks? We get down on that type of activity in most all other situations.

How about unemotional discussion of their viewpoints?

Becuase almost all Favre fans believe in the credo "Brett Favre is a god and no one sall criticize him". and get all butthurt when someone dares to differ with that.

What is ** your evidence to support your claim that any member is so foolhardy to even suggest Favre is GOD or a god?

Find ** it... or make an apology to the forum. A man backs himself up or learns less ignorance.

I'm pulling for you to grow.

Have you read any of this thread? I posted many times slamming Favre and Deputy Nutz threw a temper tantrum. You are either blind or on mind altering substances. My guess would be the latter becuase in this thread for the most part you have been posting to yourself.

I read this thread with embarassment the way people like you view Brett Favre cpk1994.

When will you grow up cpk1994?

What are you... about 20 - 24 year's of age?

If so you need lots of pain " all your's'' to even marginally get there cpk1994. Your attitude? Hows that working out?

[bobblehead]

So when asked a question that might cause a furor, how do you respond? The first thing that comes to mind? An immediate denial of whatever is being asked? Skirt the question?


What do they teach people at media relations school?

Actually, there are a couple of different things you can do, if you really want to know.

First of all, most likely the question can be anticipated, and a prepared answer will be ready.

Second, if asked a critical question, you should make a simple denial - although do NOT repeat the negative charge. Example: A reporter asks, "Don't you think it will hurt the team if you hold out?" The player should answer simply, "No." The player should NOT say, "No, I don't think I'm hurting the team by holding out." See, that quote would go right in the paper or on TV, it will remind people of the bad thing going on, and it will piss people off.

Third, after a simple denial, you need to "bridge" to something positive. In the example above, the player should say something like, "No. The way I see it, our team can only grow stronger when each and every individual feels like they are deserved and appreciated." (Or some BS like that.) So, you see, the media can only quote what you say - so only say positive things.

People that are well trained in media relations know how to "bridge" out of any question. Which, in a roundabout sort of way, can be the equivalent of skirting the question - but not always.

Some examples of "bridges" that you commonly here might be the following:

"Look, the facts are...."

"I don't know, but let me tell you what I do know..."

"That's important, but the truly critical question is...."

"No, that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is..."

"Opinions can differ, but what I believe is..."

"The reality of the situation is..."

Sound familiar?

This is a key strategy, because you can always connect any question back to the message YOU want to get across. I can tell that TT has been trained, although he either isn't as good as some at pretending to be genuinely answering the question, or he doesn't care to appear that way.

Are you sorry you asked?

I'm not sorry I asked, but what I am sorry about is that I opened this thread again.....

[woodbuck27]

Why is any negative Favre comment almost always responded to with name-calling and extreme personal attacks? We get down on that type of activity in most all other situations.

How about unemotional discussion of their viewpoints?

Becuase almost all Favre fans believe in the credo "Brett Favre is a god and no one sall criticize him". and get all butthurt when someone dares to differ with that.

What is ** your evidence to support your claim that any member is so foolhardy to even suggest Favre is GOD or a god?

Find ** it... or make an apology to the forum. A man backs himself up or learns less ignorance.

I'm pulling for you to grow.

Have you read any of this thread? I posted many times slamming Favre and Deputy Nutz threw a temper tantrum. You are either blind or on mind altering substances. My guess would be the latter becuase in this thread for the most part you have been posting to yourself.

I read this thread with embarassment the way people like you view Brett Favre cpk1994.

When will you grow up cpk1994?

What are you... about 20 - 24 year's of age?

If so you need lots of pain " all your's'' to even marginally get there cpk1994. Your attitude? Hows that working out?

No forget it your always right.

[woodbuck27]

Woodbuck, I don't dispute any of favres great accomplishments. He was a great great QB, and I was happy I got to watch him lineup for my team. I was very happy he HELPED put GB back on the football map. I am completely aware of him being the #1 contributor to our long run of .500 or better seasons.

All that being said in your quoting his wonderful records you forgot his interception record...or should I say you failed to document it. For all his talents and skills, after Holmgren left, no one held him accountable to put in the time in the film room. No one held him accountable for showing up with tendinitis every year because he wasn't working an offseason throwing program. No one held him accountable to play within the offense. They all just got on his cock like you are until MM came along.

Most people who lived in GB in those early BF years can tell you he was often out partying on saturday night and drunk off his rocker. If he woud have been committed during the sherman years like MM made him commit we might have won 2 more superbowls.

He was an iron man, tough as nails, and I wish he were back for one more committed year, but he was not infaliable. He was human, and me pointing out his human flaws in no way is it a case of me dismissing what he did accomplish or disrespecting the man. But remember, he was just that, a man, no more worthy of adolation than any other.

Charles Barkley did a commercial once saying "I am not a role model." If you have children I hope you teach them to live a good clean life and always strive to do the right thing. Teaching them to idolize a dude who was gifted with a cannon for an arm and remarkeable endurance to pain isn't why we are on this earth.

I do see where your coming from bobblehead, but how many year's has it been since Favre cleaned up his act?

That man claims to not even enjoy a single beer.

His addiction ''in a public announcement'' with Mke Holmgren's full support was for a painkiller. Was it vicodin?

I'm a Chistian and don't place Brett Favre before GOD.That claim is merely hollow and shameless rhetoric.The stuff of the purely ignorant.

[GrnBay007]

I'm not sorry I asked, but what I am sorry about is that I opened this thread again.....

it's gonna be a long one.

[bobblehead]

Woodbuck, I don't dispute any of favres great accomplishments. He was a great great QB, and I was happy I got to watch him lineup for my team. I was very happy he HELPED put GB back on the football map. I am completely aware of him being the #1 contributor to our long run of .500 or better seasons.

All that being said in your quoting his wonderful records you forgot his interception record...or should I say you failed to document it. For all his talents and skills, after Holmgren left, no one held him accountable to put in the time in the film room. No one held him accountable for showing up with tendinitis every year because he wasn't working an offseason throwing program. No one held him accountable to play within the offense. They all just got on his cock like you are until MM came along.

Most people who lived in GB in those early BF years can tell you he was often out partying on saturday night and drunk off his rocker. If he woud have been committed during the sherman years like MM made him commit we might have won 2 more superbowls.

He was an iron man, tough as nails, and I wish he were back for one more committed year, but he was not infaliable. He was human, and me pointing out his human flaws in no way is it a case of me dismissing what he did accomplish or disrespecting the man. But remember, he was just that, a man, no more worthy of adolation than any other.

Charles Barkley did a commercial once saying "I am not a role model." If you have children I hope you teach them to live a good clean life and always strive to do the right thing. Teaching them to idolize a dude who was gifted with a cannon for an arm and remarkeable endurance to pain isn't why we are on this earth.

I do see where your coming from bobblehead, but how many year's has it been since Favre cleaned up his act?

That man claims to not even enjoy a single beer.

His addiction ''in a public announcement'' with Mke Holmgren's full support was for a painkiller. Was it vicodin?

I'm a Chistian and don't place Brett Favre before GOD.That claim is merely hollow and shameless rhetoric.The stuff of the purely ignorant.

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you put him before God, but I guess it could read that way.

Again, I don't mean to dismiss his accomplishments, but I read the whole thing like this, there is validity to TT driving him out, but TT was not in the wrong.

BF did clean up the drug and alchohol no doubt, and he became a better man. Even after that he still never was "all football all the time" like an AJ Hawk. Through the sherman years he didn't have an offseason throwing program and kept getting tendinitis. He had a reason to miss minicamps nearly every year. During the season he didn't spend nearly the time in the film room that he did under Holmgren. Now granted his physical skills were so great that he was still near the top of the league most years.

Along came TT, a guy who stuck around the league on grit and effort alone. I agree with many that he doesn't necessarily have time for anyone who he doesn't think is 100% committed. He hires a guy he thinks can get BF back in line with his idea of an NFL player, and some head butting ensued that first year. You could read between the lines when MM was being diplomatic but basically saying "well, he threw 4 int's against the scout team today, I'm PISSED"

TT and MM stayed in lockstep demanding the time from BF that they put in themselves, and they made it very difficult for him not to comply. (did the same thing to woodsen incidentally). They stayed diplomatic in the press, but I would love to have seen and heard all that went on. In the end, BF capitulated and put in all the time and effort they demanded and the result was ONE play from the superbowl (and I am not blaming him for that by any means, that was a team loss).

During the offseason BF looked at it all and decided that if he couldn't get excused from OTA and minicamps anymore and if he was being held to a higher standard he just wasn't willing to put that in anymore, that is absolutely his right. As a matter of fact I applaud him for recognizing it and not trying to force the issue.

Believe me, the first time its 2nd and 4, and ARod gets sacked setting up 3rd and 12, I'm gonna be pissed and miss BF immensly. I'm under no illusion that Rodgers can step to that level this season if ever. I don't know if I'm glad MM and TT hardlined him or not. I was sure as hell glad last season, but this season I might wish they had cut him some slack.

For all my criticism of BF, I'll gladly admit he put more heart and soul into the game than anyone. I'll gladly admit that despite my post he put more time and effort into the offseason and filmroom than a lot of QB's. There are very few that I would take before him. But in the end I like TT and MM's aproach to it all, they want guys who live breath and sleep football, and there is no room for guys being half in on their team, and there sure as hell ain't room for no randy moss.

[bobblehead]

I'm not sorry I asked, but what I am sorry about is that I opened this thread again.....

it's gonna be a long one.

Hey we need discussion, this is the offseason.

[GrnBay007]

I'm not sorry I asked, but what I am sorry about is that I opened this thread again.....

it's gonna be a long one.

Hey we need discussion, this is the offseason.

This was started by a Vikings fan. Maybe he was sent here to break apart the bond Packer fans share!!

[Deputy Nutz]

Why is any negative Favre comment almost always responded to with name-calling and extreme personal attacks? We get down on that type of activity in most all other situations.

How about unemotional discussion of their viewpoints?

Becuase almost all Favre fans believe in the credo "Brett Favre is a god and no one sall criticize him". and get all butthurt when someone dares to differ with that.

The problem is also that the name calling and personal attacks go both directions. A Favre criticism is met with a personal attack, which is responded to with another personal attack, and on and on.

Touche. I should not have stooped to Nutz level even though he was pissing me off with his childish antics.

At least I don't spew lies.

[GrnBay007]

At least I don't spew lies.

Round 6


I'm ready. :P

[bobblehead]

I hope I'm not breaking bonds, I post my opinion and never feel animosity regardless the issue. I guess when some take a shot at me I might get bitchy for 1 post, but I usually refocus. I would hope no poster hold grudges over this.