JAVON FOUND UNCONSCIOUS IN VEGAS!!!

[GoPackGo]

Javon and Pacman should coordinate next time they're going to Vegas. Javon Walker could spray people with expensive champagne while Pacman makes it rain with dollar bills

[packers11]

[Badgerinmaine]

I'm with FavreChild on this one. No, it's not smart to flaunt wealth excessively and no, we haven't always been thrilled with what he's said or done over the years, and yes, maybe he should have been a lot more careful. None of that, to my mind, means that he in some sense got "what he had coming". Merely being jerkish--and none of us has the full story yet--is not even close to sufficient behavior to justify being beaten within an inch of his life. I hope he recovers fully and that some wisdom comes to him from the experiences.

[sharpe1027]

Re: Walker

Apparently, he was robbed. That should not happen, period. Just because he may have increased the chances of it happening does not make it his fault. Could he have made smarter decisions? Yes. That doesn't make it his fault nor make him deserving of what happened.

He didn't hurt anyone else or put them in danger, he wasn't driving drunk, he wasn't getting in a fight at a night club, he wasn't being charged with domestic violence, he wasn't in a hot tub with underage girls, I could go on with the list of things Packer players have done and yet plenty of people supported them. Apparently some people think that spraying champange is enough to deserve getting put in the hospital.

Those people saying he didn't make the best decisions, I have no problem with. Those saying he deserved it are a bit out there, IMHO.

[packers11]

hmmm... 60 million dollar contract...

a) hire a security guard for a week while you party in Vegas... or

b) just think that no one in the world is going to be jealous of you (your money) and try to take you out when your alone...

I think 95% of the people that have common sense would go with A... And if you do indeed go alone, just stay in the resorts... I feel bad for what happened, but how it happened bugs me... Give me 60 million, I will do the same exact thing, but I guarantee you, I would not be outside the next morning half dead...

[MadtownPacker]

Re: Walker

Finally, a voice (or keyboard) of reason.

I've forgotten the number of times I've been drunk while partying in Vegas. I mean good Lord, that's what that place is for.

I fail to understand how having his best friend die in his arms (something he will never get over), and now getting robbed, equates to ANYTHING concerning Thompson.

I also fail to understand why some here are such hypocrites. I guess when you are a muti- millionare, your suppossed to stay locked up in doors and never have any fun.........................

I dont got major bankroll like walker but I still wouldn't stroll around all fucked up in some shady hood that I dont know. That is just common sense for anyone. Unless you never got into shit when you where young you know that walker is rolling with the wrong crowd.

For the record I already said I wouldnt wish this on him.

[Freak Out]

What a waste of good champagne.

[woodbuck27]

Re: Walker

Apparently, he was robbed. That should not happen, period. Just because he may have increased the chances of it happening does not make it his fault. Could he have made smarter decisions? Yes. That doesn't make it his fault nor make him deserving of what happened.

He didn't hurt anyone else or put them in danger, he wasn't driving drunk, he wasn't getting in a fight at a night club, he wasn't being charged with domestic violence, he wasn't in a hot tub with underage girls, I could go on with the list of things Packer players have done and yet plenty of people supported them. Apparently some people think that spraying champange is enough to deserve getting put in the hospital.

Those people saying he didn't make the best decisions, I have no problem with. Those saying he deserved it are a bit out there, IMHO.

You have managed to determine 'for your life' being non- judgemenle.

Congratulations as that's not easy. Some never make it.

[bobblehead]

The part that don't make sense is him ever being in a position for this to happen. In Vegas, at a major hotel (turns out this was at body english, tryst was the night before i guess) You never have to be exposed. We got Limos and Cabs by the millions parked right in front of every hotel (and valet if you drive). The casino and nightclub are filled with security and robberies beyond a snatch and run NEVER happen inside the casino.

Its just damn hard to be exposed unless you were blatently stupid.

Oh yea, and as far as looking for a hooker, use the yellow pages or the main bar at any major casino, you don't have to go out looking here (not that I would kow....honest.....I don't do that.....for real.....no, really......stop looking at me that way)

[FavreChild]

Again, we still don't know all of the facts.

Secondly, being stupid or careless (IF he in fact was) is not a crime. Neither is flaunting or wasting your money. Beating the shit out of somebody and stealing from them is.

So say a young woman was at a club flaunting her goodies, dancing on the bar, and so forth. She leaves alone to walk back to her car, and gets raped. She deserved it? Blaming the victim is total bullshit.

Yes, there are things that you can do to TRY to protect yourself - with no guarantees. We simply do not know yet whether Javon did those things or not. But it doesn't matter. There's a big difference between not being surprised that this happened to Javon, and saying he deserved it.

[Guiness]

I'm with the rest that wouldn't wish this on him, but given what we know at this point, am not surprised. Not that we know much...I am truly surprised he didn't have a 'posse' or at least some hanger-ons around him. We are jumping to conclusions a little...maybe he went to the can alone, got wacked on the head and dragged out back - but it doesn't seem likely.

I think the statements of he got what he deserved referred more to 'what do you expect' statement than that he should get a beating for what he did.

[Guiness]

So say a young woman was at a club flaunting her goodies, dancing on the bar, and so forth. She leaves alone to walk back to her car, and gets raped. She deserved it? Blaming the victim is total bullshit.

See what I posted just above. She doesn't deserve it in the sense that it should happen to her for what she did...but that would be the height of stupidity. But everyone would say "Well, Duh!". We shouldn't have to worry about these sorts of things, but we do, and we all know it.

[sharpe1027]

I think the statements of he got what he deserved referred more to 'what do you expect' statement than that he should get a beating for what he did.

I think they were just as likely referred more to 'jumping to a conclusion without thinking it through' or to 'being judgemental,' but I guess it doesn't really matter that much.

The question that comes to my mind is how many times has he done something equally stupid and nothing bad has happened? It is quite possible that he's been putting himself at risk alot and this is the time it caught up to him. I don't have anything concrete to support that, but the odds are much better that something like this happens to someone who enages in higher-risk activities often than to someone who acted stupid once...

[Guiness]

I think the statements of he got what he deserved referred more to 'what do you expect' statement than that he should get a beating for what he did.

I think they were just as likely referred more to 'jumping to a conclusion without thinking it through' or to 'being judgemental,' but I guess it doesn't really matter that much.

The question that comes to my mind is how many times has he done something equally stupid and nothing bad has happened? It is quite possible that he's been putting himself at risk alot and this is the time it caught up to him. I don't have anything concrete to support that, but the odds are much better that something like this happens to someone who enages in higher-risk activities often than to someone who acted stupid once...

I was just looking at a thread over at sportsline.com, and some of the posters were saying that apparently he did this just before the Darrent Williams shooting as well!!! The story goes that he was spraying champagne in a nightclub, soaked and infuriated some gang members!!! Sorry, no source for this, other than some posters talking about it, but they were Denver fans, and several of them seemed to state it rather matter-of-factly.

[packers11]

pft.com

CHAMPAGNE SPRAYING PRECEDED DARRENT WILLIAMS MURDER

Posted by Mike Florio on June 17, 2008, 1:02 p.m.
Maybe it’s a function of things being fairly slow right now in NFL circles. Regardless, the Javon Walker situation has created a major buzz on the Internet.

Then again, how often does a high-profile receiver turn up knocked out cold in the street after a weekend of spraying expensive champagne at one or more night clubs?

There are completely unfounded rumors (we repeat . . . completely unfounded rumors) that the incident started with a champagne bidding war between Walker and Floyd Mayweather, and that a member of Mayweather’s entourage later stumbled upon Walker and proceeded to beat him into a pulp.

Regardless, strong similarities exist between Walker’s most recent incident and the circumstances that preceded the shooting death of Darrent Williams. Here’s a quote from an August 11, 2007 AP item regarding an interview of Walker aired by HBO’s Real Sports: “[A]nother Broncos receiver, Brandon Marshall, and his cousin were partying with Williams’ group that night and began spraying champagne around, ’some of which hit a club patron and his friend, who confronted Williams and his entourage.’ Those men flashed gang signs and were escorted out of the club, said members of a rap group from Williams’ hometown of Fort Worth, Texas, who were with him that night.”

Apart from the question of whether the more recent champagne spraying and the subsequent cold-cocking are in any way related, we’d like to think that Walker would have sworn off champagne spraying given its role in the chain of events that resulted in Darrent Williams dying in Javon Walker’s arms.

When Walker explained to Andrea Kremer of Real Sports the reason for keeping his bloody shirt from that night, Walker said, “It’s just something that reminds me every day of what could happen and this is what happened to my friend.”

Maybe it takes a second bloody shirt to help Walker realize that nothing good ever comes from spraying champagne (or any other beverage) onto a group of people that might not necessarily want to be sprayed with it.