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    As time goes on. Taylor will be available at the right price. this move is against TT's religion, but I'd like to see it happen.

    Read the comments of one of Taylor's current teammates:

    Quentin Moses tried unsuccessfully to mimic Jason Taylor's long-arm technique forever, going back to his high school days.

    When playing for Oakland early last season, Moses said his position coach had the defensive ends study film of Taylor's bread-and-butter pass rush move.

    But as much as Moses studied the straight-arm shove used to shed an offensive tackle in pursuit of an opposing quarterback, he couldn't get it right until he received a few tutorials from the master himself.

    "I learned more from Jason last year in the little bit I played behind him than I learned the whole time I've been playing the position," Moses said. "And I'm talking college and high school. He's such a mentor, tries to help people get better. And I never had to ask."


    Even though Taylor's prolonged absence from the Dolphins' offseason work increases Moses' chances of making the 53-man roster, he would prefer to see the six-time Pro Bowl selection return as soon as possible. And he's not alone.

    "It makes a big difference learning from someone who kind of knows the game, or a coach who might have played the game, and learning from one of the greatest to ever do it and is still doing it," said Moses, who had eight tackles and 1 1/2 sacks playing behind Taylor for the final eight games last season.

    "Just technique-wise, it's the little secrets, like what to expect from a tackle, and the keys to go off," Moses said.

    "He gives you little things to help you cheat, and that makes you become a better player. At least it did for me."


    Taylor has played in the "Bates D" for years. He would help our current DLineman and maybe give Sanders some insight on how increase our D pressure with Blitzes. In addition, he's help Montgomery and the other young DE's, as well as getting some pressure himself. Our young team doesn't need a lot of low draft picks anymore, let's send one to Miami and land Taylor for our team. I think it's be a good move for us.

  • #2
    I'm all for it, and think he can help the Pack contend for the SB again this year.

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    • #3
      TT

      This team is at the point now where there is no need to stock up on draft picks anymore. I really hope Teddy realizes his mind set has to change. Now we need quality players, not numbers. Taylor is still a quality player.

      Yep, he has may-be 2 years left of being an "impact" player. After that he'll be a an above average pass rushing specialist for a year. However, with all the young players we have, Taylor's value as a team leader and teacher could be invaluable.

      I'd offer a 3 rd pick for him in a freakin blink of an eye and not even think twice about it.

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      • #4
        Depends what the asking price is. Despite all of the reports, nobody really knows what the Dolphins are asking. They may decide that he doesn't have a ton of trade value and decide to keep him.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #5
          Re: TT

          Originally posted by Packnut
          This team is at the point now where there is no need to stock up on draft picks anymore. I really hope Teddy realizes his mind set has to change. Now we need quality players, not numbers. Taylor is still a quality player.

          Yep, he has may-be 2 years left of being an "impact" player. After that he'll be a an above average pass rushing specialist for a year. However, with all the young players we have, Taylor's value as a team leader and teacher could be invaluable.

          I'd offer a 3 rd pick for him in a freakin blink of an eye and not even think twice about it.
          TTs philosophy is quantity AND quality players, the best of both worlds.

          I don't know that Taylor is currently an 'impact' player. Although I think it would be great to have him teaching our youngsters, I don't feel he is that much of an upgrade at this point in his career. Couple that with a draft pick and a large salary, and the clear decision to me is to pass on him.

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          • #6
            I still can't figure whether his heart is in football or Hollywood.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Scott Campbell
              I still can't figure whether his heart is in football or Hollywood.
              Maybe that's because for him "football" has meant "Miami Dolphins." Pretty hard to get excited about that these days. Maybe a shift of scenery would do wonders for his motivation.

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              • #8
                Re: TT

                Originally posted by cheesner
                Originally posted by Packnut
                This team is at the point now where there is no need to stock up on draft picks anymore. I really hope Teddy realizes his mind set has to change. Now we need quality players, not numbers. Taylor is still a quality player.

                Yep, he has may-be 2 years left of being an "impact" player. After that he'll be a an above average pass rushing specialist for a year. However, with all the young players we have, Taylor's value as a team leader and teacher could be invaluable.

                I'd offer a 3 rd pick for him in a freakin blink of an eye and not even think twice about it.
                TTs philosophy is quantity AND quality players, the best of both worlds.

                I don't know that Taylor is currently an 'impact' player. Although I think it would be great to have him teaching our youngsters, I don't feel he is that much of an upgrade at this point in his career. Couple that with a draft pick and a large salary, and the clear decision to me is to pass on him.
                You have to take into the equation the exact situation in Miami before you determine how much he has left. OL's doubled and chipped him because he was the main threat from the Dolphin's D line.

                He would not be facing that in GB with Kampman on the other side. Taylor would excel much more in our line than he will with Miami.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                  I still can't figure whether his heart is in football or Hollywood.
                  If football means playing for a Miami Dolphin franchise that is at least 3 years away from even being competitive again, then I can understand why Taylor has one eye on Hollywood.

                  I've said it before and I'll say it again...if you question Taylor's work ethic and desire, then find an example of something from his career that speaks to him giving less than 100%...especially in the last two years on a team that was putrid. The guy was the DPOY on a horrible team.

                  I don't see anything that would cause me any concern. You could have said the same thing about Woodson 2 years ago...and now the guy who thought he would despise Green Bay is spending his offseasons here.

                  Oakland/Miami are places where any football player would start wondering about his commitment level right now. Get a guy like Woodson or Taylor in Green Bay, and suddenly you'll see a whole different player.
                  My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                  • #10
                    Trade for JT

                    Trade KGB

                    Move CJ to DT

                    Packers win the super bowl

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                    • #11
                      Re: TT

                      Originally posted by Packnut
                      However, with all the young players we have, Taylor's value as a team leader and teacher could be invaluable.
                      That's the key.

                      There is a big reason why guys like Jennings, Jones, Lee and Grant have been pleasant surprises. Actually...two reasons...Brett Favre and Donald Driver. Having those kind of leaders in the locker room help the young kids tremendously.

                      I also don't support dumping KGB if we get Taylor. I think there is room for both of them on this team. Rotating the DEs will provide just as much benefit as rotating the DTs...and you never know when injuries will mount. We can afford Taylor and KGB, so why not keep both?

                      Besides, KGB is basically untradeable considering his contract value. If we got anything, it would probably be a 7th round pick. Big whoop.
                      My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rbaloha

                        Trade KGB
                        For what.. How does this benefit us?

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                        • #13
                          He pretty much has made it clear this is his last season barring some huge change of heart, so I can't see giving up more than a 4...and probably only a 5.

                          If we could pick him up for that you gotta figure his value then....Could he mentor montgomery or thompsan better than kampman...maybe, or not. Can he improve the team...I think so, let jenkins play a lot more tackle, but KGB has trouble finding a role this way.

                          I guess you can't have too many quality players and for a small price I wouldn't mind him in G&G, but I wouldn't go giving a 3rd for him.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #14
                            why is this like the fourth thread on this? you guys talk like this is something with even a little possibility.

                            no one has ever mentioned JT and the pack in the same sentence... there are a bunch of other teams who are a lot more aggressive (aka stupid ?) than TT...

                            hate to say it since im all for it, but this is never ever gonna happen.

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                            • #15



                              The Packers recently made an exploratory inquiry with the Miami Dolphins, who are trying to decide what to do with the disgruntled Taylor

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