Jason Taylor one more time

[HarveyWallbangers]

What Clayton fails to realize is that trading for Taylor would improve DT--because Jenkins would move inside full-time. As it stands, we need Jenkins at RDE on early downs.

Jenkins was nothing special as a tackle when he played it full-time before. He had a decent pass rush, but was not strong against the run inside. He still lines up at tackle on passing downs now when they bring in KGB, so making him a "full-time" tackle just puts him inside on running downs, which was not his strength. Cole was preferred over Jenkins inside on running downs.

Jenkins best value is just where he is at right now, a DE on early downs and inside in passing situations.

Their "shortage" at DT, if there is even really one (we won't know until we see who is ready to play in training camp) will be solved only with a more classic DT than Jenkins is. Jenkins as a tackle wasn't all that different from Williams. Both might be best as a "big" DE that moves inside in passing situations.

Yeah, that's probably true, but I guess I see getting Taylor as helping the DTs. Right now, we are lacking somebody to rush on the inside where Williams was on passing downs. If we acquired Taylor, we could line Taylor and KGB up on the outside and move Kampman and Jenkins inside. I know Kampman isn't huge, but he plays big and I think he could handle the role. That would be a pretty good combination on passing downs. I also don't remember Jenkins being that bad against the run. Cole played more as a normal rotation player. He wasn't somebody that just went in there on early downs. He's not that big either, and isn't a prototypical run stuffer. If nothing else, Jenkins gives you the security of knowing he could play full-time DT if Harrell doesn't pan out, Pickett gets injured, or Jolly doesn't play as well as he did early last year. So, I do see signing Taylor as helping the DT situation. Right now, we need him at DE on early downs. If we acquired Taylor, that need goes away.

[KYPack]

I'd have to give a BZZZT on moving Kampman inside. We are having some injury problems this off-season at DT, but moving a great pass rushing LDE to DT ain't any kind of a solution for that.

[Patler]

Yeah, that's probably true, but I guess I see getting Taylor as helping the DTs. Right now, we are lacking somebody to rush on the inside where Williams was on passing downs. If we acquired Taylor, we could line Taylor and KGB up on the outside and move Kampman and Jenkins inside. I know Kampman isn't huge, but he plays big and I think he could handle the role. That would be a pretty good combination on passing downs. I also don't remember Jenkins being that bad against the run. Cole played more as a normal rotation player. He wasn't somebody that just went in there on early downs. He's not that big either, and isn't a prototypical run stuffer. If nothing else, Jenkins gives you the security of knowing he could play full-time DT if Harrell doesn't pan out, Pickett gets injured, or Jolly doesn't play as well as he did early last year. So, I do see signing Taylor as helping the DT situation. Right now, we need him at DE on early downs. If we acquired Taylor, that need goes away.

I have real doubts about Kampman being able to generate much of a pass rush from a tackle position. While Kampman is neither extremely quick, nor extremely powerful, he seems to have a combination of quickness and power that works very well when he is moved out wide and has space to work against a tackle. I think he would get swallowed up inside at defensive tackle.

I wasn't pushing Cole as an answer at DT, just saying he was a better option against the run than Jenkins was before Jenkins moved outside. No reason to think Jenkins is any better at tackle now than he was then.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'd have to give a BZZZT on moving Kampman inside. We are having some injury problems this off-season at DT, but moving a great pass rushing LDE to DT ain't any kind of a solution for that.

I'm saying this could be done on obvious passing downs. You wouldn't want to do it full-time. And this is only if they acquire Taylor and KGB is healthy. I'm not sure what else you'd do. KGB would become pretty useless (a guy to spell other guys when they are gassed) if everyone's healthy. KGB, Kampman, Jenkins, and Taylor would be a scary pass rushing unit. I believe they've already played him at DT on occasion in the past. Maybe it isn't a great idea, but I wouldn't put it past Kampman to do well in the role.

[KYPack]

I'd have to give a BZZZT on moving Kampman inside. We are having some injury problems this off-season at DT, but moving a great pass rushing LDE to DT ain't any kind of a solution for that.

I'm saying this could be done on obvious passing downs. You wouldn't want to do it full-time. And this is only if they acquire Taylor and KGB is healthy. I'm not sure what else you'd do. KGB would become pretty useless (a guy to spell other guys when they are gassed) if everyone's healthy. KGB, Kampman, Jenkins, and Taylor would be a scary pass rushing unit. I believe they've already played him at DT on occasion in the past. Maybe it isn't a great idea, but I wouldn't put it past Kampman to do well in the role.

Yeah, right. I'd say any of these other defensive sets would be of the change of pace variety. I'd leave Aaron at his LDE spot and come up with a solid down 4 of rushers that would create probelems. Even in a situation substitiution context, I'd leave Kamp right where he belongs. KGB is an effective pass rusher if healthy, but that's all he has left. i'd assume if Taylor was acquired. Kabeer might just be gone.

[vince]

A few of the comments on PFT are comical... from non-packer fans no less!

J.T. Too Big for G.B.

GeauxSaints12 says:
Lol i guess he doesn’t want to play for a good team like he said a couple of months ago.

nerdmann says:
If it’s true, hell with him. Could be angling for more money, but good luck with that when negotiating with Ted Thompson. Anyway, why give up one of TT’s highly valued draft pics for a guy that is only gonna play a year? Cullen Jenkins is very good at DE. Our DTs will get healthy. Except maybe Harrell, but Daniel Muir looks like a player too. Dude probably doesn’t want to play in the cold.

jyernberg says:
i dont se why GB being a small market would be such a big deal. he doesnt think that he would get a ton of coverage being in GB? i think he would. oh well, have fun playing for a crappy dolphins squad next year, and then being in some stupid movies where everyone says your a bad actor and should have stayed in football. we can roll with kampman jenkins jolly and KGB.

bpenlandjr says:
As a Dol-Fan, I am not at all happy with JT. This is the guy who I truly always believed in. He is a great player, but it seems his ego has taken over. Too bad, I always thought he was a “good guy”, but now he seems to have turned into a real meat head. I say good riddence (spellcheck??), and don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!

deddyluger says:
Dude was on some stupid dancing tv show.

Forum cop says:
Hey Jason take your a$$ and stay the F*** out of football you arrogant piece of SH**!!!! I’m not even a Packer fan either!

schaboo says:
what a dumbass. The8ir might be bigger markets, but, there is no better place to in a championship. Reggie came here. JT…get a clue

artvandelay says:
JT is a loser.

Favre2Driver says:
It’s funny because Charles Woodson said the same thing a few years ago and now, not only does he like it in Green Bay, but he’s playing for a team that almost went to the Superbowl last year and has a shot to contend far into the playoffs again this year.

Mactator says:
If this is true, it speaks volume of why he has never won a championship. I guess that dancing with the stars crap go to his head. Another talent that will rapidly be forgotten.

afiresnake says:
Maybe he did hit his head in a motorcycle accident previously undisclosed?

[packers11]

Parcells will not give him to a AFC team that is a contender and he will not give him to Dallas...

So mark off most of the teams on JT's list... Have fun playing in Miami for the next 1-2 years of your career and go retire without a ring...

[mission]

god damn i dont wanna be (originally) right on this one.. i hate these "anti" posts

but hey, i thought randy moss was a done deal and nearly went berserker that "dreadful sunday mornin" so hopefully im wrong again!

[Lurker64]

I don't really want any part of any player who doesn't want to be part of the Packers.

[Patler]

I'd have to give a BZZZT on moving Kampman inside. We are having some injury problems this off-season at DT, but moving a great pass rushing LDE to DT ain't any kind of a solution for that.

I'm saying this could be done on obvious passing downs. You wouldn't want to do it full-time. And this is only if they acquire Taylor and KGB is healthy. I'm not sure what else you'd do. KGB would become pretty useless (a guy to spell other guys when they are gassed) if everyone's healthy. KGB, Kampman, Jenkins, and Taylor would be a scary pass rushing unit. I believe they've already played him at DT on occasion in the past. Maybe it isn't a great idea, but I wouldn't put it past Kampman to do well in the role.

Yeah, right. I'd say any of these other defensive sets would be of the change of pace variety. I'd leave Aaron at his LDE spot and come up with a solid down 4 of rushers that would create probelems. Even in a situation substitiution context, I'd leave Kamp right where he belongs. KGB is an effective pass rusher if healthy, but that's all he has left. i'd assume if Taylor was acquired. Kabeer might just be gone.

Assuming the Packers have a good team this year, and fourth quarter leads putting opponents in passing situations, having thee strong rushing DEs to rotate is not a bad idea. KGB and Taylor are old enough that they may not be able to go full out play after play during a long drive. Even Kampman could probably benefit from a couple plays off in a long pass-heavy drive. Reggie White would pull himself out for a few plays the last couple seasons in GB when a team passed down after down. A couple times it seemed like the worst times, but he just needed the rest. The Packers could rotate three, keeping everyone fresh in those situations.

Of course, maybe Thompson will be able to provide that type of relief while being a player to develop as a KGB replacement.

[DonHutson]

I'd be all for acquiring the guy, if he wanted to play here. There's no such thing as too many good pass rushers. He'd be a great fit.

But if he's got one, maybe two, years left to win a ring and he's still worried about market size, the weather, and that kind of shit... well, I can live without him too.

[Carolina_Packer]

Acquiring JT is not likely at this point since the Pack won't be able to get him cheap (4th rounder is unlikely), and trading for him and giving up a 2nd rounder doen't make sense if he's only playing for one more year. I'm not saying they wouldn't benefit from having him, the price is just too high.

[footballfever]

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/wcStory?contentId=8118850#story=8277036

this was on a list of top 9 nfl moves that have to be made right now. Jason Taylor to the Packers was listed number 1! Do it already TT!

[Guiness]

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/wcStory?contentId=8118850#story=8277036

this was on a list of top 9 nfl moves that have to be made right now. Jason Taylor to the Packers was listed number 1! Do it already TT!

The moron who wrote the article lost me with this line:

A line of Aaron Kampman, Cullen Jenkins, Justin Harrell and Taylor would be one of the best defensive fronts in the entire league.

Idiot

[Zool]

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/wcStory?contentId=8118850#story=8277036

this was on a list of top 9 nfl moves that have to be made right now. Jason Taylor to the Packers was listed number 1! Do it already TT!

The moron who wrote the article lost me with this line:

A line of Aaron Kampman, Cullen Jenkins, Justin Harrell and Taylor would be one of the best defensive fronts in the entire league.

Idiot

Heh...maybe he confused Pickett with a draft pick?