Most overated coach of all-time?

[sheepshead]

I'll add my comments later

[GBRulz]

Not sure why you have it limited to just two choices and yes, I will agree that both are over rated. However, I can think of others who deserve to be there before Holmgren. Marty Schottenheimer and Bill Parcels jump out at me at the moment.....

[cpk1994]

What, no Mike Sherman in this poll?

[Charles Woodson]

I wouldnt put Phil up there. I mean at the very least he has won championships. I mean your talking 9-1. I mean i will admit that during those times he had some of the most dominant players, Jordan and Shaq. But still personally dont call him over-rated.

[sheepshead]

Well, tangentially Packer related and timely because the Celts smacked the Lakers last night.

[Charles Woodson]

Well, tangentially Packer related and timely because the Celts smacked the Lakers last night.

I think that if the Lakers had Andrew Bynum the outcome would have been alot closer. Im not saying they still would have won, but at least 7 games

[packers11]

I'm a Celtics fan but you can't blame Phil Jackson for that loss...

It was basically Kobe vs KG/Allen/Pierce...

Kobe didn't have to much help, and the fact that he sucked last night makes it even worse...

[Scott Campbell]

My vote goes to Mike Sherman.

[sheepshead]

yeah, but at some point in their careers, these guys have been compared to Lombardi, Halas, Landry, Auerbach, Holzman , Nelly, Wilkins,I know Jackson has the numbers but cant seem to win unless he has an all star team to work with. Even then how he lost any games in those Shaq and Kobe years I'll never know.

I just think he finds himself in the right place at the right time-that was certainly the case in Chicago.

[The Leaper]

Well, one has 9 titles and the other only has 1.

I'm guessing the guy with 1 is probably more overrated.

[Patler]

yeah, but at some point in their careers, these guys have been compared to Lombardi, Halas, Landry, Auerbach, Holzman , Nelly, Wilkins,I know Jackson has the numbers but cant seem to win unless he has an all star team to work with. Even then how he lost any games in those Shaq and Kobe years I'll never know.

I just think he finds himself in the right place at the right time-that was certainly the case in Chicago.

Did Auerbach do it with less talent than Jackson? I don't think so.
Does that make Auerbach overrated?

A lot of NBA teams with talent don't win. Some argue that egos were so dominant in Chicago and LA that without Jackson and his ability to manage egos they never would have achieved what they did.

It is often said that any good coach can manage very talented players to a championship, but it takes a real leader and manager of personalities to control exceptionally talented teams and win multiple championships. Guys who do that, and Jackson has done it twice, earn their accolades, in my opinion.

[Guiness]

yeah, but at some point in their careers, these guys have been compared to Lombardi, Halas, Landry, Auerbach, Holzman , Nelly, Wilkins,I know Jackson has the numbers but cant seem to win unless he has an all star team to work with. Even then how he lost any games in those Shaq and Kobe years I'll never know.

I just think he finds himself in the right place at the right time-that was certainly the case in Chicago.

Jackson is a great coach for a great team. He prevents stars from beating themselves. He was able to keep Shaq/Kobe from blowing up long enough to win one more championship, when it was obvious they hated each other. I remember the talk of him teaching Shaq about Zen in order to keep his cool during the 'hack a Shaq' episodes. He was able to manage multiple all-stars his years in Chicago. A similar manager in baseball might be Bobby Cox.

Overated for me? Who was that dweeb that cashed in on the machine Jimmy Johnson's left in Dallas when he bolted?

[the_idle_threat]

yeah, but at some point in their careers, these guys have been compared to Lombardi, Halas, Landry, Auerbach, Holzman , Nelly, Wilkins,I know Jackson has the numbers but cant seem to win unless he has an all star team to work with. Even then how he lost any games in those Shaq and Kobe years I'll never know.

I just think he finds himself in the right place at the right time-that was certainly the case in Chicago.

Jackson is a great coach for a great team. He prevents stars from beating themselves. He was able to keep Shaq/Kobe from blowing up long enough to win one more championship, when it was obvious they hated each other. I remember the talk of him teaching Shaq about Zen in order to keep his cool during the 'hack a Shaq' episodes. He was able to manage multiple all-stars his years in Chicago. A similar manager in baseball might be Bobby Cox.

Overated for me? Who was that dweeb that cashed in on the machine Jimmy Johnson's left in Dallas when he bolted?

Barry Switzer, Super Bowl Champion

[SkinBasket]

I would vote for Jackson if the NBA was a sports league and not an entertainment enterprise.

[oregonpackfan]

I agree that Barry Switzer was an overrated NFL coach. He rode Jimmy Johnson's coattails into the Super Bowl.

While Switzer was an excellent college coach at Oklahoma, he was just another example of how many very good college coaches cannot do well at the NFL level.