Packers gaining confidence in Rodgers' strong arm

[bobblehead]

I think his arm is definately on par with favre at this point, but all the other intangibles would go to favre still. I just hope he developes those other factors fast.

I'm assuming you mean the 17 year veteran Favre. I think there's about three guys in the history of the NFL with an arm on par with Favre's at it's best - with respect to strength (and above average accuracy - to exclude the fastballers with no control!).

exactly, it ain't favre in his prime, but the favre of last year had an above average arm, not the HOF one he sported most of his career. If Arod has and above average arm and makes good decisions and plays within the offense, we should do ok....IF.

[sharpe1027]

Let's just say what the majority are thinking. Brett Favre is/was the best,and anyone that really thinks AROD is just going to transition smoothly is high. I bealieve it was another thread that someone said certain age fans have grown up watching Brett as our QB. So to them they don't understand the crap we had before Brett,and what i am afraid will be just as bad crap after.

Agreed.

Even so, I'm putting my hope in MM's QB coaching ability. He's turned out some pretty good QBs in his time.

Also, the crap before Brett was more than just bad QBs, it was bad from top to bottom, bad players (not all, but too many), bad coaching and bad management. I'm cautiously optimistic, but realize that Arod is more likely to be gone in two years than he is to make a probowl.

[Bretsky]

Favre's arm was not special last year.

Too General

I think Favre had a top 10 arm last year hands down; once it was much higher

I would not try to argue Rodgers had a top 10 arm; nothing I've seen of him so far would lead me to believe that.

[RashanGary]

Special:
Jay Cutler
Jamarcus Russell



Very good:
Carson Palmer
Ben Rothlisburger
Alex Smith
Jason Cambell
Matt Hasselback
Tom Brady
Tony Romo
Donavan McNabb
Brett Favre
Byron Leftwich
Tavaris Jackson
Aaron Rodgers
JP Losman



There is a very small, elite class that can throw harder than anyone else. Favre used to be the leader of that pack, now he's right with the pack. Rodgers is right with the pack too. There should be very little drop off in arm strength. I've watched the Dallas game several times and Rodgers threw the ball just as hard as Favre, if not harder. Don't ask me though, Jennings and Jones probably know more than any of us and they say Rodgers throws harder.

I know this hurts people like someone was questioning their religion, but Favre is a human being and like all other people, his physical skills eroded from age 24 to age 39. It's just part of this reality thing we live in. Any one of you (or all of you) can join me if you let down your defenses enough to see it.

[MJZiggy]

How the hell can you say Jamarcus Russell? Has he ever completed a pass?

[Partial]

How the hell can you say Jamarcus Russell? Has he ever completed a pass?

He can chuck it something like 80 yards they say though.

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How the hell can you say Jamarcus Russell? Has he ever completed a pass?

He can chuck it something like 80 yards they say though.

from one knee...

the legend says at least ...

[MJZiggy]

I don't care what they say he can do--they said Favre could do that on his knees. Dude's gotta be able to get it to the receiver. Until he does, he's not special.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Very good:
Carson Palmer
Ben Rothlisburger
Alex Smith
Jason Cambell
Matt Hasselback
Tom Brady
Tony Romo
Donavan McNabb
Brett Favre
Byron Leftwich
Tavaris Jackson
Aaron Rodgers
JP Losman

This list is laughable.

[Zool]

Very good:
Carson Palmer
Ben Rothlisburger
Alex Smith
Jason Cambell
Matt Hasselback
Tom Brady
Tony Romo
Donavan McNabb
Brett Favre
Byron Leftwich
Tavaris Jackson
Aaron Rodgers
JP Losman

This list is laughable.

I would laugh if I thought he was joking.

[Bretsky]

Special:
Jay Cutler
Jamarcus Russell



Very good:
Carson Palmer
Ben Rothlisburger
Alex Smith
Jason Cambell
Matt Hasselback
Tom Brady
Tony Romo
Donavan McNabb
Brett Favre
Byron Leftwich
Tavaris Jackson
Aaron Rodgers
JP Losman



There is a very small, elite class that can throw harder than anyone else. Favre used to be the leader of that pack, now he's right with the pack. Rodgers is right with the pack too. There should be very little drop off in arm strength. I've watched the Dallas game several times and Rodgers threw the ball just as hard as Favre, if not harder. Don't ask me though, Jennings and Jones probably know more than any of us and they say Rodgers throws harder.

I know this hurts people like someone was questioning their religion, but Favre is a human being and like all other people, his physical skills eroded from age 24 to age 39. It's just part of this reality thing we live in. Any one of you (or all of you) can join me if you let down your defenses enough to see it.

To be honest this list destroys your credibility; there are a lot of sub par arms on your very good list that Favre is well above. If you actually think that is accurate it's hard to even begin reasoning.

[bobblehead]

I don't care what they say he can do--they said Favre could do that on his knees. Dude's gotta be able to get it to the receiver. Until he does, he's not special.

Pretty sure he was just talking strength and nothing else....btw, where was mike vick on that list?

[RashanGary]

I don't take offense. I know many Favre fans use Favre as a way to measure their own self esteem (odd, I know). It doesn't suprise me that y'all don't see the drop off and it doesn't suprise me that y'all get offended when it is brought up.

Reality though, Favre's arm is no longer top 5. It's very good. So is Rodgers. Don't hate the messenger. Just deal with the message like men.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Reality though, Favre's arm is no longer top 5. It's very good. So is Rodgers. Don't hate the messenger. Just deal with the message like men.

I think many would acknowledge Favre is no longer top 5. I wasn't even arguing Rodgers vs. Favre. How could I? I've only seen Rodgers throw a little bit, and he hasn't made any awe-inspiring throws, but that doesn't mean he couldn't. However, that's not what you were saying. Way to change the argument once you found yourself on the losing end. Your list was absurd. To suggest that Favre has average arm strength, even at this stage of his career, just shows how little you know about football. You act like the people backing Favre in this thread are some Favre worshippers. Few are. I'm not. I think you're the one who has gone overboard in your Favre bashing. It's gotten irrational, but--like Woody in his Thompson bashing--you fail to see it. Deal with that message like a man. Wait... I forgot you aren't a man yet.

[KYPack]

Alex Smith and Byron Leftwich kind of blow up your list, JH.

I'd say start over, but I'm scared you'd do it.

Somehow you've got too far afield here and your point doesn't make sense.