Packers Using 4 LB Set

[vince]

Final mini-camp practice notes

Without divulging what the situation and other personnel were, the Packers had four linebackers on the field at one point: Brandon Chillar, A.J. Hawk, Nick Barnett and Brady Poppinga. I saw that on more than one occasion during the mini-camp.

I don't think Bedard would mention this if it was just a goalline d or limited-use short yardage front. Perhaps it's an experiment of sorts, but if Chillar is as good as advertised in covering TE's, that's a potentially interesting wrinkle. 3-4 perhaps? Could we possibly see a frontline of Kamp, Pickett and Jenkins along with the 4 backers...

[RashanGary]

I heard Barnett mention a couple times that they had something up their sleeves this year. Maybe this is it.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: Packers Using 4 LB Set

Without divulging what the situation and other personnel were, the Packers had four linebackers on the field at one point: Brandon Chillar, A.J. Hawk, Nick Barnett and Brady Poppinga. I saw that on more than one occasion during the mini-camp.

Maybe this is why McCarthy likes to keep most of his practices closed to the public.

[KYPack]

That's a formation that lends itself to blitzing.

Can you say zone blitz?

I would love to see Barnett and Hawk run a Fire X.

Maybe we are starting to let our hair down. This bunch is more than ready to have the D coaches put some exotic formations in & blitz the shit out of the opposition.

[mission]

hmm...

taylor, pickett, kampman

chillar, hawk, barnett, pops

i like that...

homer post?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I can't see them changing the scheme at this point. I'm sure they'll use 4 LBs on occasion, but I doubt you'll see it often.

[texaspackerbacker]

The more options you have available the better, but I really don't like this idea.

[mission]

oops wrong thread

[LL2]

hmm...

taylor, pickett, kampman

chillar, hawk, barnett, pops

i like that...

homer post?

I think this is a great idea. I don't know if I would use this line up all game long, but it would be good to throw in there to throw offenses off. Your front 3 have to be VERY good to do a 3-4, and having Taylor would be the key.

[Fritz]

That's a formation that lends itself to blitzing.

Can you say zone blitz?

I would love to see Barnett and Hawk run a Fire X.

Maybe we are starting to let our hair down. This bunch is more than ready to have the D coaches put some exotic formations in & blitz the shit out of the opposition.

Good thing for Hawk's hair, and Harris's too.

Can't do this on offense, though. Rodgers cut his and Driver is bald.

[Joemailman]

That's a formation that lends itself to blitzing.

Can you say zone blitz?

I would love to see Barnett and Hawk run a Fire X.

Maybe we are starting to let our hair down. This bunch is more than ready to have the D coaches put some exotic formations in & blitz the shit out of the opposition.

Kentucky,

I thought of the 3-4 when you mentioned in the other thread that the Packers base defense doesn't lend itself to blitzing because of where the LB's line up. I'm all for mixing things up woth more formations. But what the hell is a Fire X?

[Mazzin]

MailMan, I do belive the fire x he is talking at is a blitz that is on madden, when you use the 4 d line man, and bring the extra saftey into the box (8 man front) and than in the game Nick Barnett, and Aj Hawk, both blitz the OTHER lbs Gap.....Works good on the game, dont know about in real life though, and besides in the game you have 4 dline man eating gaps, instead of 3 so there will be more blockers.

[mraynrand]

Tank?

[KYPack]

MailMan, I do belive the fire x he is talking at is a blitz that is on madden, when you use the 4 d line man, and bring the extra saftey into the box (8 man front) and than in the game Nick Barnett, and Aj Hawk, both blitz the OTHER lbs Gap.....Works good on the game, dont know about in real life though, and besides in the game you have 4 dline man eating gaps, instead of 3 so there will be more blockers.

I'll be damned. Man, this is one savvy group on here. Mazzin perfectly describes the Fire X. It's used with it's evil twin, the Fire Zone, to totally overload the offenses' pass protection scheme. Everybody else plays a very tight zone with specific spots to closely check the O's hot men. Usually, the coverage guys even front their responsibilities so the QB has no one to dump off to. Hopefully, the blitzers do their job and it results in a sack. Fire zone and fire x were developed mainly by Dick LeBeau and Dom Capers, but it has many fathers really.

I used to do a little coaching and always was trying to put in a scheme that would be an all out blitz like these two schemes. I got close, but never had to the balls to commit blitzers (coaches call 'em storms, btw) like the fire schemes do.

The Zone blitz is different from older blitz schemes because you back your blitz with zone cover. In the old days, everybody played a fronting man cover on all blitzes.

[KYPack]

Tank?

Mazzin is not Tank.

She understands the game and has a good feel for it.

Tank tells people he does, but he doesn't.