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  • #1

    2 Tackles And Half A Sack

    That is what the great Mr J Allen accomplished in 60 minutes of football on HIS field against the Green Bay Packers one Sunday afternoon last season.

    Yet all I read about in this very dull off-season is how this guy is the next coming of Reggie White. Best DE in football. The missing piece of the puzzle up in Minnesota. According to the great and powerful Oz (Dr Z), why Allen is gonna get them that SB trophy.

    And now the fools at ESPN are tripping over each other to sing the praises of Mr Allen. Why Allen to the Vikes is the biggest heist since one Brett Favre was swiped by Ron Wolf. He's all the Vikings needed. Yep, the same Vikings who came very close to getting blown out by GB in Minny and did get SMOKED in GB. Hey, I'm not the brightest coin in the fountain, but I just don't see how that big 2 tackle and a half sack game of Allen would have made a difference in EITHER game.

    Would'nt it be refreshing to just have ONE FREAKIN writer remind everyone how Allen made NO DIFFERENCE against the Packers last season? Why are these guys so GOD DAMN BLIND????????????

    Must they ALWAYS take the easy way out when writing a story. Yeah, I know. Writing a story of how in-effective Allen was against the Pack does'nt make for a good story-well not as good as how great Allen is and how he's just what the Vikes need. That makes for better copy. Well what about a thing called:

    PROFESSIONAL JOURNALISM
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    Professional journalism died with the advent of 24-hour news/24-hour sports programming. Did you miss the wake? The flowers were lovely.
    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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    • #3
      Writers

      Originally posted by MJZiggy
      Professional journalism died with the advent of 24-hour news/24-hour sports programming. Did you miss the wake? The flowers were lovely.
      It's just a damn shame that writing a fluff article is more important than the facts. I mean, in order for Minny to make this huge leap forward, they will have to do it over the Packers so is it just me, or would'nt it make sense to include what Allen did against us last season? That is the barometer to use when assesing his impact this season against us.

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      • #4
        Who did KC have on the line with Allen?
        He now has 2 of the best "most offensively planned against" DTs in the league in the middle, that alone is enough for most DEs to be somewhat productive.

        Jared Allen is a great DE, in the mould of AK but with a bad attitude. If anything, I am hoping for some distractions on his part on games where we play them otherwise it will be a problem.

        Lets not kid ourselves the Vikings now have a freakishly great Dline on paper and if last year's play is any indication from all the starters on that line they will be the best with run and pass play.

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        • #5
          Allen

          Originally posted by Sef0r
          Who did KC have on the line with Allen?
          He now has 2 of the best "most offensively planned against" DTs in the league in the middle, that alone is enough for most DEs to be somewhat productive.

          Jared Allen is a great DE, in the mould of AK but with a bad attitude. If anything, I am hoping for some distractions on his part on games where we play them otherwise it will be a problem.

          Lets not kid ourselves the Vikings now have a freakishly great Dline on paper and if last year's play is any indication from all the starters on that line they will be the best with run and pass play.
          Point taken. However, while the DT duo the Vikes have can stop the inside run, they are very poor at pass rushing. I doubt very much if anyone doubled either of them last season on passing downs so the Packer blocking scheme will remain the same.

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          • #6
            Re: Allen

            Originally posted by Packnut
            Originally posted by Sef0r
            Who did KC have on the line with Allen?
            He now has 2 of the best "most offensively planned against" DTs in the league in the middle, that alone is enough for most DEs to be somewhat productive.

            Jared Allen is a great DE, in the mould of AK but with a bad attitude. If anything, I am hoping for some distractions on his part on games where we play them otherwise it will be a problem.

            Lets not kid ourselves the Vikings now have a freakishly great Dline on paper and if last year's play is any indication from all the starters on that line they will be the best with run and pass play.
            Point taken. However, while the DT duo the Vikes have can stop the inside run, they are very poor at pass rushing. I doubt very much if anyone doubled either of them last season on passing downs so the Packer blocking scheme will remain the same.
            Kevin Williams was doubled a lot. Pat Williams was not, but they don't expect him to get to the passer in 3 seconds. Of course, this is all a wait a see approach. We have all seen what "great on paper" ends up looking like during the season - *cough* 49ers Defense *couch*.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MJZiggy
              Professional journalism died with the advent of 24-hour news/24-hour sports programming. Did you miss the wake? The flowers were lovely.
              LOL. That's good copy. You could be an ESPN reporter.
              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • #8
                Dr. Z is too old. When you're old, you don't have much logic cells left in your brain. Bob Harlan is another example.

                Tom Pelissero of Packersnews.com is an ass but at least he's young.

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                • #9
                  Re: Allen

                  Originally posted by Sef0r
                  Kevin Williams was doubled a lot. Pat Williams was not, but they don't expect him to get to the passer in 3 seconds. Of course, this is all a wait a see approach. We have all seen what "great on paper" ends up looking like during the season - *cough* 49ers Defense *couch*.
                  Pat Williams doesn't even play much on passing downs, so he won't help out Allen much. Kevin does get doubled, but you can double two guys on the DL. Allen will still get doubled (he'll be chipped by TEs and blocked by RBs). If they had one other good pass rusher, then they would be trouble. That means Ray Edwards is going to have to be very good for them to be as dominant as some think they'll be. Kind of like the Giants. They had a good pass rush with Osi and Strahan, but they didn't become dominant until Justin Tuck become a stud also. I don't see Ray Edwards becoming another Justin Tuck.
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sef0r
                    Who did KC have on the line with Allen?
                    He now has 2 of the best "most offensively planned against" DTs in the league in the middle, that alone is enough for most DEs to be somewhat productive.

                    Jared Allen is a great DE, in the mould of AK but with a bad attitude. If anything, I am hoping for some distractions on his part on games where we play them otherwise it will be a problem.

                    Lets not kid ourselves the Vikings now have a freakishly great Dline on paper and if last year's play is any indication from all the starters on that line they will be the best with run and pass play.
                    Unless someone proves otherwise, the other DE spot is hardly outstanding. If they get above average play from that side though, I might with you.

                    Didn't Taucher lock down Allen 1 on 1 for pretty much every play though? Does it really matter who else is on the line if the supposed top pass rusher is taken mostly out of the game without doubles or chips?
                    Originally posted by 3irty1
                    This is museum quality stupidity.

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                    • #11
                      The Pack was also supposed to be a 500 team last year. New England was EASILY going to win the Super Bowl. Green Bay Was going to be in the Super Bowl since Dallas lost.

                      IT doesnt mean anything thats why they play the games. The Vikings seem to always get one side of the ball to work and the other side is a mess. About week 8 you will hear a lound crash in Minnesota and that will be everyone jumping off the band wagon.
                      Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tony Oday
                        The Pack was also supposed to be a 500 team last year. New England was EASILY going to win the Super Bowl. Green Bay Was going to be in the Super Bowl since Dallas lost.

                        IT doesnt mean anything thats why they play the games. The Vikings seem to always get one side of the ball to work and the other side is a mess. About week 8 you will hear a lound crash in Minnesota and that will be everyone jumping off the band wagon.
                        That's always my favorite time of year in St. Paul.

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                        • #13
                          For several seasons now, the Vikings have been the "winner" at FA, but they've failed to improve much, if at all. The Allen acquisition just looks like anojhter in a long lone of failed additions that look good on paper, but fail to add much to the team.

                          Awhile back, the addition of Sharper was gonna put The Queens in the Super Bowl. Look how that one worked out.

                          KC might be the winner of the Allen deal.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by KYPack
                            For several seasons now, the Vikings have been the "winner" at FA, but they've failed to improve much, if at all. The Allen acquisition just looks like anojhter in a long lone of failed additions that look good on paper, but fail to add much to the team.

                            Awhile back, the addition of Sharper was gonna put The Queens in the Super Bowl. Look how that one worked out.

                            KC might be the winner of the Allen deal.
                            Was this thread started with the intent to point out bad journalism, because this might be one of the most uninformed threads I've read.

                            Why is it so ridiculous to think the addition of talent will make a football team better?

                            Comparing Allen with the Chiefs vs. the pack is a stupid comparison, he will be playing with much better players along side him. By the way K. Williams is an excellent pass rusher.

                            The Vikes have made many good FA moves. The most notible failure was Smoot, but Sharper, Winfield, P. Williams, Hutchinson, and Chester Taylor were all good moves.

                            Yes pack fans.....Allen is good, and was a great trade for the Vikings. He will make an impact, although probably one you won't like.
                            Minnesota Vikings
                            NFC North Champions 2008 and 2009.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SMACKTALKIE
                              Why is it so ridiculous to think the addition of talent will make a football team better?
                              One word. Redskins.
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