2 Tackles And Half A Sack

[SMACKTALKIE]

Re: Allen

And you remind me of what a packer fan with blind allegiance is; disillusioned by 17 years of great QB play.

Disillusioned? You might want to look up that defintion, I do not think it means what you think it means.

disillusioned
Adjective
disappointed at finding out reality does not match one's ideals

Your ideals are that great QB play will happen. You may be dissappointed at finding the reality that it is not a given.

The difference between us and you is very simple. The jury is still out on one Mr Rodgers. However, the verdict on Mr Jackson has been signed, sealed and delivered. He is without a doubt the worst QB in football.

I mean this guy is just plain freakin BRUTAL! AP had better be in top shape cause the whole Queen's offense is gonna be run, run and run and ah then:


PUNT

"the verdict on Mr Jackson has been signed, sealed and delivered."

What an ignorant statement!!

What makes you think a player can't improve. All QB's experience growing pains and the learning curve is steep. I know you have not seen a new QB under center in GB for a long time but I can tell you for a fact that Jackson can get better and the verdict on him is still out.

P.S. just because you write in big bright letters does not mean you are right.

[Tony Oday]

A player can improve Jump Pass wont.

[Packnut]

Re: Allen

And you remind me of what a packer fan with blind allegiance is; disillusioned by 17 years of great QB play.

Disillusioned? You might want to look up that defintion, I do not think it means what you think it means.

disillusioned
Adjective
disappointed at finding out reality does not match one's ideals

Your ideals are that great QB play will happen. You may be dissappointed at finding the reality that it is not a given.

The difference between us and you is very simple. The jury is still out on one Mr Rodgers. However, the verdict on Mr Jackson has been signed, sealed and delivered. He is without a doubt the worst QB in football.

I mean this guy is just plain freakin BRUTAL! AP had better be in top shape cause the whole Queen's offense is gonna be run, run and run and ah then:


PUNT

"the verdict on Mr Jackson has been signed, sealed and delivered."

What an ignorant statement!!

What makes you think a player can't improve. All QB's experience growing pains and the learning curve is steep. I know you have not seen a new QB under center in GB for a long time but I can tell you for a fact that Jackson can get better and the verdict on him is still out.

P.S. just because you write in big bright letters does not mean you are right.

When analyzing ANY young QB, in order to have some glimmer of hope, you need SOMETHING to base hope on.

For example, when Favre was young we all saw the cannon for an arm and the passion he brought to the table.

Tell me what Jackson brings to the table. I see nothing that he does that you can hang your hat on and point to.

When you make an honest assesment on him, NOTHING stands out.

What's even worse, is he has no help at WR. All Berrian can do is go deep. Those guys are a dime a dozen in the NFL............

[Patler]

Much about the futures of the two teams will be determined by who made the better choice, the Packers with Rodgers or the Vikings with Jackson.

It will be interesting to see who is the better prepared to lead his team, Jackson with 14 starts and 200+ attempts or Rodgers with 0 starts and 35 attempts. Rodgers seemed to catch on in his 3rd season, Jackson could too.

[SMACKTALKIE]

Re: Allen

And you remind me of what a packer fan with blind allegiance is; disillusioned by 17 years of great QB play.

Disillusioned? You might want to look up that defintion, I do not think it means what you think it means.

disillusioned
Adjective
disappointed at finding out reality does not match one's ideals

Your ideals are that great QB play will happen. You may be dissappointed at finding the reality that it is not a given.

The difference between us and you is very simple. The jury is still out on one Mr Rodgers. However, the verdict on Mr Jackson has been signed, sealed and delivered. He is without a doubt the worst QB in football.

I mean this guy is just plain freakin BRUTAL! AP had better be in top shape cause the whole Queen's offense is gonna be run, run and run and ah then:


PUNT

"the verdict on Mr Jackson has been signed, sealed and delivered."

What an ignorant statement!!

What makes you think a player can't improve. All QB's experience growing pains and the learning curve is steep. I know you have not seen a new QB under center in GB for a long time but I can tell you for a fact that Jackson can get better and the verdict on him is still out.

P.S. just because you write in big bright letters does not mean you are right.

When analyzing ANY young QB, in order to have some glimmer of hope, you need SOMETHING to base hope on.

For example, when Favre was young we all saw the cannon for an arm and the passion he brought to the table.

Tell me what Jackson brings to the table. I see nothing that he does that you can hang your hat on and point to.

When you make an honest assesment on him, NOTHING stands out.

What's even worse, is he has no help at WR. All Berrian can do is go deep. Those guys are a dime a dozen in the NFL............

Huge arm, great release, great work ethic. Go watch his game against Denver......more than a glimmer of hope.

[SMACKTALKIE]

Much about the futures of the two teams will be determined by who made the better choice, the Packers with Rodgers or the Vikings with Jackson.

It will be interesting to see who is the better prepared to lead his team, Jackson with 14 starts and 200+ attempts or Rodgers with 0 starts and 35 attempts. Rodgers seemed to catch on in his 3rd season, Jackson could too.

Agreed.

Thank you Palter. That is all I'm trying to say. Our teams are in very similar situations despite our differences in wins and losses last year.

[SMACKTALKIE]

Re: Allen

And you remind me of what a packer fan with blind allegiance is; disillusioned by 17 years of great QB play.

Disillusioned? You might want to look up that defintion, I do not think it means what you think it means.

disillusioned
Adjective
disappointed at finding out reality does not match one's ideals

Your ideals are that great QB play will happen. You may be dissappointed at finding the reality that it is not a given.

The difference between us and you is very simple. The jury is still out on one Mr Rodgers. However, the verdict on Mr Jackson has been signed, sealed and delivered. He is without a doubt the worst QB in football.

I mean this guy is just plain freakin BRUTAL! AP had better be in top shape cause the whole Queen's offense is gonna be run, run and run and ah then:


PUNT

"the verdict on Mr Jackson has been signed, sealed and delivered."

What an ignorant statement!!

What makes you think a player can't improve. All QB's experience growing pains and the learning curve is steep. I know you have not seen a new QB under center in GB for a long time but I can tell you for a fact that Jackson can get better and the verdict on him is still out.

P.S. just because you write in big bright letters does not mean you are right.

When analyzing ANY young QB, in order to have some glimmer of hope, you need SOMETHING to base hope on.

For example, when Favre was young we all saw the cannon for an arm and the passion he brought to the table.

Tell me what Jackson brings to the table. I see nothing that he does that you can hang your hat on and point to.

When you make an honest assesment on him, NOTHING stands out.

What's even worse, is he has no help at WR. All Berrian can do is go deep. Those guys are a dime a dozen in the NFL............

Again, ignorant blanket statements.

"When analyzing ANY young QB, in order to have some glimmer of hope, you need SOMETHING to base hope on."

-Have you really "analyzied" Jackson? You did'nt see him against GB last year. If you did analyze him show me what resources you used.


"For example, when Favre was young we all saw the cannon for an arm and the passion he brought to the table."

-Yes, true. We also saw him make some poor decisions as he learned the position.


"Tell me what Jackson brings to the table. I see nothing that he does that you can hang your hat on and point to."

-Have you really looked? Again watch the Denver game. Great arm, release and work ethic.


"When you make an honest assesment on him, NOTHING stands out."

-Are you capable of making an honest assesment? Don't you hate the Vikings? Perhaps you have a biased opinion.


"What's even worse, is he has no help at WR. All Berrian can do is go deep. Those guys are a dime a dozen in the NFL............"

-So he can't cut? Are you the only one who knows this? Deep threats are a dime a dozen? Does Randy Moss know this? I suppose Rice, like Jackson can't improve. Berrian has been noted to run great routes by scouts, I read that in a review of FA's BEFORE the Vikings signed him.

Bring some sense and facts to the table next time.

[packers11]

can we put this to rest, the vikings win the superbowl every year on paper ... who gives a fuck... when they win one when during the NFL season gimme a call...

T-Jackson will not lead them to the Super Bowl... And EVEN if he does, just like REXY, he will fail miserably...

[Zool]

Re: Allen

So......yeah that was poorly worded. Let me give you a more comprehensive example of what I am trying to say. I will pose a questios and offer facts to factor into your answers. You tell me:

Are your OT's really as good as advertised or did Favre make them look better?
Fact: Favre got rid of the ball quickly and was rarely sacked.

Are your WR's as good as advertised or did Favre make them look better?
Fact: Favre put the ball where it was needed when it was needed.

Is Ryan Grant a good RB or did Favre make him look better?
Fact: Favre's mere presence on the field kept Defenses guessing and on their heels.

This is what I meant when I said disillusioned. Perhaps a poor word choice.

The point is, how will Favre's absense affect the rest of the Offense?

Clear evidence that you watched maybe 2 Packer games per year and are trying to wax philosophical about it.

1) Yes they are. I'm faster than Favre is now. Granted he gets the ball out quick, but the ridiculously low sacks over the last 5 years cant be all him. It is a team sport after all.

2) Ever see Driver using his high jump skills? I have pretty much 2-3 times per week for the last long time. Granted they are no Turd Ferguson or Troy Williamson, but they're pretty good.

3) See Wynn/Jackson weeks 1-6 for the answer.

[SMACKTALKIE]

Re: Allen

So......yeah that was poorly worded. Let me give you a more comprehensive example of what I am trying to say. I will pose a questios and offer facts to factor into your answers. You tell me:

Are your OT's really as good as advertised or did Favre make them look better?
Fact: Favre got rid of the ball quickly and was rarely sacked.

Are your WR's as good as advertised or did Favre make them look better?
Fact: Favre put the ball where it was needed when it was needed.

Is Ryan Grant a good RB or did Favre make him look better?
Fact: Favre's mere presence on the field kept Defenses guessing and on their heels.

This is what I meant when I said disillusioned. Perhaps a poor word choice.

The point is, how will Favre's absense affect the rest of the Offense?

Clear evidence that you watched maybe 2 Packer games per year and are trying to wax philosophical about it.

1) Yes they are. I'm faster than Favre is now. Granted he gets the ball out quick, but the ridiculously low sacks over the last 5 years cant be all him. It is a team sport after all.

2) Ever see Driver using his high jump skills? I have pretty much 2-3 times per week for the last long time. Granted they are no Turd Ferguson or Troy Williamson, but they're pretty good.

3) See Wynn/Jackson weeks 1-6 for the answer.

So are you saying Farve's absense will not affect the offense at all?

[sharpe1027]

Re: Allen

So......yeah that was poorly worded. Let me give you a more comprehensive example of what I am trying to say. I will pose a questios and offer facts to factor into your answers. You tell me:

Are your OT's really as good as advertised or did Favre make them look better?
Fact: Favre got rid of the ball quickly and was rarely sacked.

Are your WR's as good as advertised or did Favre make them look better?
Fact: Favre put the ball where it was needed when it was needed.

Is Ryan Grant a good RB or did Favre make him look better?
Fact: Favre's mere presence on the field kept Defenses guessing and on their heels.

This is what I meant when I said disillusioned. Perhaps a poor word choice.

The point is, how will Favre's absense affect the rest of the Offense?

Clear evidence that you watched maybe 2 Packer games per year and are trying to wax philosophical about it.

1) Yes they are. I'm faster than Favre is now. Granted he gets the ball out quick, but the ridiculously low sacks over the last 5 years cant be all him. It is a team sport after all.

2) Ever see Driver using his high jump skills? I have pretty much 2-3 times per week for the last long time. Granted they are no Turd Ferguson or Troy Williamson, but they're pretty good.

3) See Wynn/Jackson weeks 1-6 for the answer.

So are you saying Favre's absense will not affect the offense at all?

So are you saying Favre's absence will mean the offense won't even take the field?

[Patler]

Thank you Palter. That is all I'm trying to say. Our teams are in very similar situations despite our differences in wins and losses last year.

Not sure I agree with that. While both have uncertainties at QB, I look at the Vikings as being older and potentially having players who will decline in performance. The Packers have more who could ascend.

Besides, the Vikings have three Packer rejects projected as potential starters!

[sharpe1027]

Thank you Palter. That is all I'm trying to say. Our teams are in very similar situations despite our differences in wins and losses last year.

Not sure I agree with that. While both have uncertainties at QB, I look at the Vikings as being older and potentially having players who will decline in performance. The Packers have more who could ascend.

Besides, the Vikings have three Packer rejects projected as potential starters!

Let's not forget about coaching.

[SMACKTALKIE]

Re: Allen

So......yeah that was poorly worded. Let me give you a more comprehensive example of what I am trying to say. I will pose a questios and offer facts to factor into your answers. You tell me:

Are your OT's really as good as advertised or did Favre make them look better?
Fact: Favre got rid of the ball quickly and was rarely sacked.

Are your WR's as good as advertised or did Favre make them look better?
Fact: Favre put the ball where it was needed when it was needed.

Is Ryan Grant a good RB or did Favre make him look better?
Fact: Favre's mere presence on the field kept Defenses guessing and on their heels.

This is what I meant when I said disillusioned. Perhaps a poor word choice.

The point is, how will Favre's absense affect the rest of the Offense?

Clear evidence that you watched maybe 2 Packer games per year and are trying to wax philosophical about it.

1) Yes they are. I'm faster than Favre is now. Granted he gets the ball out quick, but the ridiculously low sacks over the last 5 years cant be all him. It is a team sport after all.

2) Ever see Driver using his high jump skills? I have pretty much 2-3 times per week for the last long time. Granted they are no Turd Ferguson or Troy Williamson, but they're pretty good.

3) See Wynn/Jackson weeks 1-6 for the answer.

So are you saying Favre's absense will not affect the offense at all?

So are you saying Favre's absence will mean the offense won't even take the field?

When did I say that?

[SMACKTALKIE]

Thank you Palter. That is all I'm trying to say. Our teams are in very similar situations despite our differences in wins and losses last year.

Not sure I agree with that. While both have uncertainties at QB, I look at the Vikings as being older and potentially having players who will decline in performance. The Packers have more who could ascend.

Besides, the Vikings have three Packer rejects projected as potential starters!

Let's not forget about coaching.

Your O tackles, D ends, and CB's are old, and you offered Daunte Culpepper a contract.