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  • #16
    Tarlem knows my MO.

    I played Rugby for a long time, 15 seasons or so.

    I played junior and high school football and then played 3 years of semi-pro football. I'd rate myself an average player at both sports. I tried to focus on the mental aspects of the game, but stuck my nose in there and got very physical when that was what was needed.

    Both sports are very physical and the contact can be devastating at times. In general, there is more hitting in football because football allows contact away from the ball. In rugby, blocking is illegal and is a penalty called obstruction. In football, some of the hardest hits I sustained occurred while "forcing" a running play to the inside by hitting the blocker early and turning the play back to your defensive support.

    Tackling and forcing plays in football are a different technique than tackling in rugby. In fact, it took me a couple seasons to learn how to make sound rugby tackles. You truly feel naked without those shoulder pads and a helmet. In rugger, you must learn how to make a form tackle by leading with your chest and being very conscious of where you place your head. Ruby uses a wrap and roll technique, while football tackles tend to be more violent. Sometimes.

    In my years in both sports, I've been carried off the field, out cold due to the effects of a violent collision. Cold-cocked is cold-cocked, no matter how you get there. In general, rugby is a more mental game. If you study the sport, the times when you have to sell out and clean somebody out is less in a rugger match than a football game. Football has more contact because of the blocking.

    That said, when I would come up from fullback to tackle some young outside center running free with 10 - 15 yards of steam, there were times I wished I had a helmet and shoulder pads to help me deliver the blow.

    There is a funny thing about both sports is the attitude of the players regarding the toughness of their respective sports. Football players tend to give the ruggers props for playing without all the protective gear. Many ruggers are disdainful of American football players, deriding the footballers use of their equipment.

    When asked to comment on either sport I'd have to say that both of them are very violent and have their moments of impending doom. Sometimes you find yourself in a jackpot in either sport and you are very happy if you can get up and walk around the next day.

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    • #17
      I'd still rather get hit out in the open. Getting hit full speed against the boards is an unpleasant experience and the only time I've ever thrown up after getting hit.
      Originally posted by 3irty1
      This is museum quality stupidity.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by twoseven
        Physics. When a 220 lb defensiveman knocks a 170lber off his skates, it's no comparison to a pair of 230lbers slamming into each other and going straight to the ground in what looks like a meaningless collision by way of forces generated.
        To be fair, there aren't very many 170lb players in hockey any more. Just like football, hockey has become a big man's game. Also, hockey players are moving faster, so the force generated is probably pretty comparable. I've seen hockey hits that are every bit as good as football hits.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Zool
          I'd still rather get hit out in the open. Getting hit full speed against the boards is an unpleasant experience and the only time I've ever thrown up after getting hit.
          You might take a stick to the mouth and/or smash your head on the ice or boards during this big hit also.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #20
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            Originally posted by twoseven
            Physics. When a 220 lb defensiveman knocks a 170lber off his skates, it's no comparison to a pair of 230lbers slamming into each other and going straight to the ground in what looks like a meaningless collision by way of forces generated.
            To be fair, there aren't very many 170lb players in hockey any more. Just like football, hockey has become a big man's game. Also, hockey players are moving faster, so the force generated is probably pretty comparable. I've seen hockey hits that are every bit as good as football hits.
            Grass is softer than ice.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
              Originally posted by twoseven
              Physics. When a 220 lb defensiveman knocks a 170lber off his skates, it's no comparison to a pair of 230lbers slamming into each other and going straight to the ground in what looks like a meaningless collision by way of forces generated.
              To be fair, there aren't very many 170lb players in hockey any more. Just like football, hockey has become a big man's game. Also, hockey players are moving faster, so the force generated is probably pretty comparable. I've seen hockey hits that are every bit as good as football hits.
              Sure. But to suggest that hockey players spend a whole lot of time lining each other up and running into each other at full steam is also a stretch. In football it happens every single play. Hell, I think they're all tough, I just have little time for today's athletes being called pussies because they wear pads and helmets and have rules to keep them from seriously injuring each other.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by twoseven
                Hell, I think they're all tough, I just have little time for today's athletes being called pussies because they wear pads and helmets and have rules to keep them from seriously injuring each other.
                I'd agree with you there--although I think the rules have been overly slanted to the offensive side of the ball (pass interference rules especially) and they probably overly protect the QB. Then again, if you were paying your franchise's most important player upwards of $10,000,000/season, you'd probably want those rules in place too.
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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