Packers vs. bengals '92...

[KYPack]

not brett that first year, in 93 he was much better and thats when i started to like him

but he was completely out of control that first year, i wanted detmer to take over so bad

Actually, Brett was solid his rookie year. Had a couple of bad games, but was more good than bad. He even made the Pro Bowl. He then regressed his second year. He was horrible in 1993 (the playoff game at Detroit notwithstanding) and started off 1994 shaky also. The light went off, and the rest was history after that.

At the Packer Bar, we all had yellow foam "Favre Bricks". When Brett did something real stupid, we'd fire 'em at the screen. Sometime in his 4th year, we all lost 'em.

Detmer never fired me up, too small with a noodle arm.

Mark Brunell inerested me, but I always felt the Walrus had to stick with BLF.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Mark Brunell inerested me, but I always felt the Walrus had to stick with BLF.

Me too, but at one point I think we were in the minority. My Dad was fed up with him. I just saw too much talent to give up on.

[Bretsky]

Mark Brunell inerested me, but I always felt the Walrus had to stick with BLF.

Me too, but at one point I think we were in the minority. My Dad was fed up with him. I just saw too much talent to give up on.

I never turned my back on BF; just saw too much potential

I actually had many many fights with the in laws on whether we should go through growing pains (as I saw them) or bench his tail.

They were football morons; few things are better than being right with in-laws

[mraynrand]

Always wondered who was the first announcer to dub Brett "The Gunslinger".

I assumed it was John Madden.

In the Bengal Pack broadcast, Ahmad Rashad commented a few plays after Brett's first completion that Favre was a gunslinger.

Favre's moniker coined by Ahmad Rashad ?

Nah. Favre was known as a gunslinger coming out of college. But you have a point about the announcers - they were awful - Rashad because he's just a poor talent and Jim Lamprey because he's a fish out of water - when it was 10-0 he said it was "10-Love." You always cringe when these "Wide world of Sports" or Ice skating announcers (like Vern Lungfish) get a football game and they start comparing Favre to a jai ali player they saw last week in Brazil or to Katerina Witt. Scratching your head thinking WTF?

[KYPack]

Always wondered who was the first announcer to dub Brett "The Gunslinger".

I assumed it was John Madden.

In the Bengal Pack broadcast, Ahmad Rashad commented a few plays after Brett's first completion that Favre was a gunslinger.

Favre's moniker coined by Ahmad Rashad ?

Nah. Favre was known as a gunslinger coming out of college. But you have a point about the announcers - they were awful - Rashad because he's just a poor talent and Jim Lamprey because he's a fish out of water - when it was 10-0 he said it was "10-Love." You always cringe when these "Wide world of Sports" or Ice skating announcers (like Vern Lungfish) get a football game and they start comparing Favre to a jai ali player they saw last week in Brazil or to Katerina Witt. Scratching your head thinking WTF?

It's "Lampley", Ayn.

"Lamprey" is that evil fish that used to terrorize Lake Michigan. Maybe it should be Lamprey.

Yeah, the "3 love" references made my skin crawl, too.

Rashad has been doing that NBA show for so long, I forgot he was a football guy. Great player, lousy announcer.

Those two were raving about the Bengals and little Davey Shula and missed the birth of a Superstar and HOFer.

I have to make fun of one other person. Me. I find myself rooting for the Pack during 18 year old replays. I was pissed when the Bengals got to kick that field goal over in the last 2 minutes. You forget that the game is in the bag and pull for the G&G.

It's a reflex.

[The Leaper]

Damn Terrell Buckley! He's the guy who we should have had the foam bricks for. Hang on to the ball, midget!

One of my favorite plays of that game is when Butler just laid out a RB during the Bengals last FG drive. Butler was a stud!

[mraynrand]

It's "Lampley", Ayn.

"Lamprey" is that evil fish that used to terrorize Lake Michigan. Maybe it should be Lamprey.

No kidding. It's Vern Lundquist, not LUNGFISH also. As Jim Lamprey would say: "I just overtricked you!!" (That's a bridge term for 'each trick won by the declarer in excess of the contract' - Jim learned that covering the National Bridge Championships in Normal, IL for ABCs' Wide World of Sports - spanning the globe to bring you the most boring competitions that you can possibly show at 11AM on a July Saturday)

[Patler]

not brett that first year, in 93 he was much better and thats when i started to like him

but he was completely out of control that first year, i wanted detmer to take over so bad

Actually, Brett was solid his rookie year. Had a couple of bad games, but was more good than bad. He even made the Pro Bowl. He then regressed his second year. He was horrible in 1993 (the playoff game at Detroit notwithstanding) and started off 1994 shaky also. The light went off, and the rest was history after that.

Remember when the young Favre used to start almost every game so psyched up that he would throw 100mph screen passes, and throw his first few passes so hard downfield that they would sail over receivers heads by 10 feet? Game after game you would see Sharp or someone on the sideline looking up as a ball just took off, not even close enough to jump for.

Holmgren once said the goal was to get Favre through the first two offensive series without killing someone with his "rocket ball". After that, he would calm down and be fine.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think, even that, has been overstated. I'd say at least half the games he was fine. It did happen during some big games early in his career. The Dallas games were always hard to get through the first few throws.

[Patler]

I think, even that, has been overstated. I'd say at least half the games he was fine. It did happen during some big games early in his career. The Dallas games were always hard to get through the first few throws.

I'll let Holmgren know you disagree!

[Patler]

I think, even that, has been overstated. I'd say at least half the games he was fine. It did happen during some big games early in his career. The Dallas games were always hard to get through the first few throws.

Seriously though, Holmgren said he specifically scripted the early throws to get Favre through it without damage; sideline passes that no one would catch (including DBs), etc. He also said he had to let him throw deep early in each game, just to get it out of his system.

It was always worse in big games, but cropped up frequently in regular games as well.

[Deputy Nutz]

That pass, boy o boy that pass. One of the greatest throws of all time. 38 yards on a frozen rope.

[Fosco33]

They just played it again on NFLN.

Man - what a great end to that game! Amazing to see Favre so young and extremly emotional afterwards. And all the crap that T-Buck gets here - he had that 58 yard punt return to touch off the rally... imagine if that hadn't happened. Sure, Favre would still be a legend but wouldn't have had that special start.

Thanks T-buck (never thought I'd say that).

[Deputy Nutz]

Does the "Come Back Kid" have one more left in him? The biggest and last come back of his career, coming out of retirement.

I guess I was one that thought Favre should walk away after his retirement. Leave it alone go with the decision you made, but as training camp approaches less than a month away the realization is that Favre isn't going to be a Green Bay Jersey and I have a hard time dealing with it.

[Gunakor]

They just played it again on NFLN.

Man - what a great end to that game! Amazing to see Favre so young and extremly emotional afterwards. And all the crap that T-Buck gets here - he had that 58 yard punt return to touch off the rally... imagine if that hadn't happened. Sure, Favre would still be a legend but wouldn't have had that special start.

Thanks T-buck (never thought I'd say that).

Sure, but the cocky bastard could have easily fumbled that one away holding the ball out away from his body with one hand while still in traffic at the 20 yard line. You get chewed out in high school for pulling a stunt like that. Damn rookies...