Better addition to the 2008 Packers

[HarveyWallbangers]

Brett Favre was on this team last year and he didn't get it done. I don't believe he was so much better back then as opposed to last season---what he lost physically over the ten year span is offset at least in part by what he gained in knowledge and experience.

I'd disagree. Favre was better. If that Favre played with these WRs, he might have thrown for 50 TDs. The two biggest differences is that Favre could make something out of nothing with his scrambling ability. He was uncanny at doing that. The other difference is that I think older athletes almost played scared. They want that last hurray so much that it often takes away from their performance. I've seen it before. The younger Favre played with just a bit different mindset, and I think it was for the better. Now, this Favre played with a lot more patience, but in those MVP/Super Bowl years Holmgren had Brett playing that way also.

[Tarlam!]

I voted Favre.

2 people voted for neither Favre, nor White. Cretìns, the pair of you.

[3irty1]

I think anyone of these guys would put us over the top.

[woodbuck27]

Just think about how good Favre did last year. He was even better in those years, and I'd guess the talent around him was comparable. We had the #1 offense in the league in 1996, and the offense wasn't loaded with All-Pro talent. How easily some people forget just how awesome Brett was back then. Some might be too young to fully remember.

Yup, and some choose to have selective memory

I hope AROD tears the NFL apart; but if he turns out to be soft and injury prone I bet he'll develop some pretty funny nicknames in here after all the AROD wagoning and anti-Favre stuff


Cheers,
B

Yea. A lot of turncoats in this place. I'll cuddle up to these righteous posters for this exercise.

Well then... I'll ignore 'the fact' that your team MVP better be your QB overall in your teams season; as so many here really believe that we don't skip a beat or it even gets better with Aaron Rodgers.

Now the answer to the choice gets easy.

Reggie White.

[sheepshead]

Joe Montana is my best "QB of all time", maybe the best competitor in any sport I have ever seen.

[The Leaper]

I'll take Reggie White, as the talent on our offense IMO is good enough to win a title. The last time I checked, Eli Manning just won a Super Bowl with a group of mostly stiffs on offense...because of a dominant DL.

Add a 27 year old Reggie to our defense, and it would probably be the best defense in the league.

[HarveyWallbangers]

What happens with ARod gets injured in week 2 and proves to be injury prone?

[Zool]

What happens with ARod gets injured in week 2 and proves to be injury prone?

What happens when he doesn't?

[HarveyWallbangers]

What happens with ARod gets injured in week 2 and proves to be injury prone?

What happens when he doesn't?

The point is people are assuming that ARod is going to be good and durable. I'll take the ridiculously durable Hall of Fame QB in his prime.

[3irty1]

The Packers rosters over the years are a who's who of legends. I expect new gods to emerge from the ashes of Favre and lead us to a string of championships. In the big city big money NFL of today the Packers are a beacon of football ideals. Our greatest Ally is Wisconsin herself which manifests in brutally cold winters and the unmatched undying love of her fans.

Kool-aid anyone?

[DonHutson]

The Packers rosters over the years are a who's who of legends. I expect new gods to emerge from the ashes of Favre and lead us to a string of championships. In the big city big money NFL of today the Packers are a beacon of football ideals. Our greatest Ally is Wisconsin herself which manifests in brutally cold winters and the unmatched undying love of her fans.

Kool-aid anyone?

Yes please!

[The Leaper]

What happens with ARod gets injured in week 2 and proves to be injury prone?

Your defense is still dominant...and you will have a veteran QB behind him at the #2 spot who can take advantage of the multitude of weapons we have on offense.

[The Leaper]

The point is people are assuming that ARod is going to be good and durable. I'll take the ridiculously durable Hall of Fame QB in his prime.

How many Super Bowls did that ridiculously durable HOF QB win without a stud defense led by someone like Reggie?

Defense wins championships...always has, always will. Even the recent wins of high powered offenses like St. Louis and Indy came on the back of very solid defensive performances. The Rams defense won the Super Bowl with a goal-line stop...and the Indy defense was clearly the better playing side of the ball in the Colts' title run.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The point is people are assuming that ARod is going to be good and durable. I'll take the ridiculously durable Hall of Fame QB in his prime.

How many Super Bowls did that ridiculously durable HOF QB win without a stud defense led by someone like Reggie?

This argument is moot--since neither guy one a title without the other. I'd argue Reggie's teams in Philadelphia (dominating defenses + Randall Cunningham, Mike Quick, Keith Jackson, etc. on offense) were more talented than the Packers before and after Reggie, but that would just be my opinion. It's also kind of a bad argument because Brett only played one year before Reggie got there. When Reggie left, Ray Rhodes came in to screw everything up. After that, Wolf left and the organization wasn't nearly at the same level. I really don't think they had a championship caliber team surrounding Brett after that. Last year's team was probably the most talented, but I'm not sure they come close to 13-3 without Brett. The 2002 team, I think, had a championship caliber offense before Tausch and Clifton got injured. Defense might have been just good enough.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Defense wins championships...always has, always will. Even the recent wins of high powered offenses like St. Louis and Indy came on the back of very solid defensive performances. The Rams defense won the Super Bowl with a goal-line stop...and the Indy defense was clearly the better playing side of the ball in the Colts' title run.

Are you saying you'd take a Hall of Fame DE over a Hall of Fame QB? Or are you saying that you have a lot of faith in ARod to play well and stay healthy?