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    SOME PACKERS EXPECT TO GET “OUR QUARTERBACK” BACK
    Posted by Mike Florio on July 8, 2008, 2:04 p.m. EDT

    With reports of Brett Favre planning to send a letter within the next week or so seeking to be placed on the Packers’ active roster, there has been much discussion and speculation about whether Favre wants to play for the team he has quarterbacked since 1992, and vice-versa.

    One factor that has been omitted is whether Favre’s teammates would welcome him back.

    Based on information we’ve picked up via our network of sources, the answer is a resounding “hell yes.”

    Players already are referring privately to the notion of getting “our quarterback” back. There’s also a feeling within the locker room that the Packers can’t trade or release Favre without subjecting G.M. Ted Thompson to genuine concerns that he would be the target of some type of physical retaliation from one or more fans.

    We’re also told that the players have yet to warm up to Aaron Rodgers, the man who is slated to become the next starting quarterback in Green Bay, if Favre stays retired or if he goes elsewhere.

    Rodgers has been generally indifferent regarding his relationships with teammates. Also, there’s a belief among some of the players that Rodgers’ “get on board or shut up” remarks from last week to Sports Illustrated, which comments were obscured by the news of Favre’s possible return, reflect that Rodgers doesn’t understand the unique relationship between Packers players and the citizens of Green Bay.

    So if Favre returns to the Packers, what will happen with Rodgers? He is signed through 2009 at manageable salaries of $680,000 and $800,000 over the next two seasons, respectively, under a contract that includes escalators based on playing time.

    Our guess is that he’ll demand a trade. Possible suitors (as we see it) would include the Buccaneers, the Seahawks, the 49ers (who considered taking him instead of Alex Smith with the No. 1 overall pick in 2005), and any of the three NFC North rivals whose depth charts at the position would be upgraded instantly with the arrival of Rodgers.

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    I have few doubts that to a man, every single guy on the roster wants Favre back. They want to win a title...they could care less about 2010 or 2015.

    So, for all the people scared about how bringing Favre back would divide the locker room...you are reaching for straws IMO. In terms of the locker room...they want Favre back.

    Gotta be a little scared if the "our QB" term is being thrown around...as if Rodgers is Thompson's little pet who the players aren't fond of.
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    • #3
      Re: SOME PACKERS EXPECT TO GET “OUR QUARTERBACK” BACK

      Originally posted by Pacopete4
      Our guess is that he’ll demand a trade. Possible suitors (as we see it) would include the Buccaneers, the Seahawks, the 49ers (who considered taking him instead of Alex Smith with the No. 1 overall pick in 2005),
      Ok, this is getting WAY ahead of things, but Rodgers to the 49ers? That's hilarious = and would require quite a lot of eating of crow on their part!!!

      Is the feeling really that they've given up on Alex Smith?
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      Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by The Leaper
        1. I have few doubts that to a man, every single guy on the roster wants Favre back. 2.They want to win a title...they could care less about 2010 or 2015.

        So, for all the people scared about how bringing Favre back would divide the locker room...you are reaching for straws IMO. In terms of the locker room...they want Favre back.

        Gotta be a little scared if the "our QB" term is being thrown around...as if Rodgers is Thompson's little pet who the players aren't fond of.

        1. Projecting one's own viewpoint on 53 other people is a bit presumptive, no?
        2. It was all there in front of them LAST season. Why would it be different this year?
        Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The Leaper
          I have few doubts that to a man, every single guy on the roster wants Favre back. They want to win a title...they could care less about 2010 or 2015.

          So, for all the people scared about how bringing Favre back would divide the locker room...you are reaching for straws IMO. In terms of the locker room...they want Favre back.

          Gotta be a little scared if the "our QB" term is being thrown around...as if Rodgers is Thompson's little pet who the players aren't fond of.
          I can think of one, Aaron Rodgers.

          As far as this report goes, I have heard nothing but positive things for Rodgers from his teammates. I know they won't bash the guy in the media if they don't like him, but they seem to go out of their way to comment on how well he gets along with his teammates. Like the story about how he was hosting parties at his house on a weekly basis - doesn't sound to me like a guy who 'We’re also told that the players have yet to warm up to Aaron Rodgers,'

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          • #6
            Originally posted by The Shadow
            1. Projecting one's own viewpoint on 53 other people is a bit presumptive, no?
            Sure it is presumptive...but that hardly is evidence that my presumption is wrong.

            2. It was all there in front of them LAST season. Why would it be different this year?
            Um...because Aaron Rodgers has about as much experience leading an NFL team as I do. His recent bonehead comments pretty much confirm as much.

            Brett Favre is clearly still one of the best 5 QBs in the NFL...his performance last year spoke for itself. To suggest that Aaron Rodgers is anywhere close to Favre is ridiculous. Rodgers remains a vast mystery that none of us really have any clue about yet. We are HOPING he pans out...but there is precious little evidence to confirm that he will.

            Favre has a ring. He has 3 MVP awards. He has every passing record imaginable. I'm guessing he's got a little more evidence on his side, but maybe I'm wrong.

            Favre gives Green Bay the best chance to win a title in 2008. That is a bona fide FACT, Shadow. I know it. You know it. The players know it. That is why they will almost unanimously support Favre's return.
            My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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            • #7
              If Favre submits papers to the Packers saying he wants off the retired list they have to either reinstate him or release him. If they do not take him back they have to let him go. So, Favre could force their hand real soon here.

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              • #8
                Why not just give A. Rodgers an extension say three years, for 25 million dollars with 8 million of it guaranteed? That would shut him up for a little while.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                  Why not just give A. Rodgers an extension say three years, for 25 million dollars with 8 million of it guaranteed? That would shut him up for a little while.
                  yeah but when you count that with the $20 million we have to pay brett favre and jason taylor this year we'll only have like $35 million left to sign our rookies and extend our core players
                  Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Leaper
                    Originally posted by The Shadow
                    1. Projecting one's own viewpoint on 53 other people is a bit presumptive, no?
                    Sure it is presumptive...but that hardly is evidence that my presumption is wrong.

                    2. It was all there in front of them LAST season. Why would it be different this year?
                    Um...because Aaron Rodgers has about as much experience leading an NFL team as I do. 1. His recent bonehead comments pretty much confirm as much.

                    Brett Favre is clearly still one of the best 5 QBs in the NFL...his performance last year spoke for itself. To suggest that Aaron Rodgers is anywhere close to Favre is ridiculous. 2. Rodgers remains a vast mystery that none of us really have any clue about yet. We are HOPING he pans out...but there is precious little evidence to confirm that he will.

                    Favre has a ring. He has 3 MVP awards. 3.He has every passing record imaginable. I'm guessing he's got a little more evidence on his side, but maybe I'm wrong.

                    4.Favre gives Green Bay the best chance to win a title in 2008. 5. That is a bona fide FACT, Shadow. I know it. You know it. The players know it. That is why they will almost unanimously support Favre's return.
                    1. I believe that is also one of the Favre records that would be hard to eclipse.
                    2. So, at one time, was Tom Brady (6th round?). So was Bart Starr (17th round??).
                    Johnny Unitas????!!!
                    3. The (FIG) or Foolish Interception Game-ender record is the one that really worries me - and it reared it's ugly head yet again last season to derail another shot at a championship.
                    At 38, that particular horrible tendency is not likely to change, especially when remembering the troubling "I am not going to change my game" comment from a few years back.
                    4. Quite possibly, since Rodgers is, as you quite correctly point out, a somewhat unknown factor at this point. But last season was yet another illustration of Favre's inability to complete the ultimate job.
                    In all fairness, you must admit that the ONLY Super Bowl win under his helm came when Ron Wolf assembled easily the best team talent in the NFL around him. (And, with virtually the same team the next year, it was inexcusable to lose to the Broncos).
                    I do think he was great in helping the team come along from Point A to Point B - or further. But I don't think he - unless Ted Thompson suddenly acquires 5 more All Pros - is going to take the Packers to a Super Bowl.
                    5. A fact? Where is your evidence? In truth, no one knows. Aaron Rodgers might be the next Jay Fiedler - or the next Steve Young.
                    But I do know that you don't move forward by moving backwards.
                    Finally, I think team chemistry is HUGE. The message you send, the standards you set, and the belief that the team is bigger than any individual player, is an integral part of building a champion.
                    Favre was a vastly entertaining player with a unique skill set. He should cease eroding his legacy by gracefully leave the stage, and not claw at the curtains on his way offstage.
                    Just my opinion (I can't suggest the entire 53 man roster unanimously agrees with it....)
                    Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cheesner
                      Originally posted by The Leaper
                      I have few doubts that to a man, every single guy on the roster wants Favre back. They want to win a title...they could care less about 2010 or 2015.

                      So, for all the people scared about how bringing Favre back would divide the locker room...you are reaching for straws IMO. In terms of the locker room...they want Favre back.

                      Gotta be a little scared if the "our QB" term is being thrown around...as if Rodgers is Thompson's little pet who the players aren't fond of.
                      I can think of one, Aaron Rodgers.

                      As far as this report goes, I have heard nothing but positive things for Rodgers from his teammates. I know they won't bash the guy in the media if they don't like him, but they seem to go out of their way to comment on how well he gets along with his teammates. Like the story about how he was hosting parties at his house on a weekly basis - doesn't sound to me like a guy who 'We’re also told that the players have yet to warm up to Aaron Rodgers,'
                      Yeah, and the get-togethers at his house sure don't make him seem "generally indifferent regarding his relationships with teammates" either..

                      Just more crap from PFT..I hate that website..

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                      • #12
                        Rodgers will be fine, with coaches, teammates, and himself.
                        Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                        • #13
                          If the Packer don't value Favre enough to overlook the un-retirement (should it come to pass) and let him come back to compete for the starting job, and if A-Rod gets hurt and Brett has moved on to another team and is succeeding, not only will the fans be upset that the management rolled the dice, but that they didn't see what Favre had left to contribute, and could not get over themselves and make the best winning football decision for the organization.
                          "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                          • #14
                            Carolina, you just stated what I deem to be the very worst scenario possible. If Favre is playing with another team this season, and Rodgers ends up hurt and missing considerable time, it will be really bad for Packers management. They will look terrible in hindsight.

                            I dont think they should risk that.

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                            • #15
                              With almost any other QB they could risk it.. but not with Brett.. because of what he's done for GB, Wisconsin, the Packers and for what he's done for the game... all the records matter, and more importantly never missing a game for the Green Bay Packers! There is no way you can let a guy go that has NEVER missed a game for you.. its just absolutely insane to think like that

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