SOME PACKERS EXPECT TO GET “OUR QUARTERBACK” BACK

[Carolina_Packer]

Carolina, you just stated what I deem to be the very worst scenario possible. If Favre is playing with another team this season, and Rodgers ends up hurt and missing considerable time, it will be really bad for Packers management. They will look terrible in hindsight.

I dont think they should risk that.

I agree totally. If they bring Brett back and he's lost it, you can always bench him. If he gets hurt, you can bring in A-Rod and Favre finally rides off into the sunset once and for all. Erring on the side of seeing what your proven vet and beloved franchise great can do coming back is a more prudent move than trading him or releasing him. If you are TT, do you want that to be your legacy? Again, look at it this way. Should Favre come back and be the starting QB and they go 6-2 at the midway point, then it looks like a good decision. If they are 2-6, and Favre is not playing well, you can go with A-Rod and hope to salvage your season and Favre will probably retire once and for all. Why not see if Favre has one more run in him? It's worth the risk.

[swede]

The Shadow knows. I like his thoughts. Some of the rest of you are having a hard time with the paradigmatic shift brought about by Brett being almost six in dog years.


I'd love to trade Favre for a few draft picks.

It's one last favor he could do for us.



Which is weirder? Hanging out at a Trekkie site arguing over what would have happened if Picard had violated the Prime Directive in episode 127, or hanging out at PackerRats continually wondering what will happen if Brett decides to unretire?

I'm not going to poke fun at Trekkies for a while. That would be like an Arcruvian plasma miner calling out a Cardassian veck merchant.

[Bretsky]

The Shadow knows. I like his thoughts. Some of the rest of you are having a hard time with the paradigmatic shift brought about by Brett being almost six in dog years.


I'd love to trade Favre for a few draft picks.

It's one last favor he could do for us.

it's a pipe dream to get anything more than a 3rd round pick IMO
It should be interesting.

TT should go with whoever things he will go the furthest with in 08; play for now
It's possible by the time AROD develops we'll be losing several of our best players that are at a very high level right now. Maybe he's ready for a SB run now and maybe TT thinks Favre is not as good as AROD. Then you move him for whatever pick you can.

[swede]

The Shadow knows. I like his thoughts. Some of the rest of you are having a hard time with the paradigmatic shift brought about by Brett being almost six in dog years.


I'd love to trade Favre for a few draft picks.

It's one last favor he could do for us.

it's a pipe dream to get anything more than a 3rd round pick IMO
It should be interesting.

TT should go with whoever things he will go the furthest with in 08; play for now
It's possible by the time AROD develops we'll be losing several of our best players that are at a very high level right now. Maybe he's ready for a SB run now and maybe TT thinks Favre is not as good as AROD. Then you move him for whatever pick you can.

Ouch! It's all so sordid. Do you think this is going to not go away B?

[Bretsky]

The Shadow knows. I like his thoughts. Some of the rest of you are having a hard time with the paradigmatic shift brought about by Brett being almost six in dog years.


I'd love to trade Favre for a few draft picks.

It's one last favor he could do for us.

it's a pipe dream to get anything more than a 3rd round pick IMO
It should be interesting.

TT should go with whoever things he will go the furthest with in 08; play for now
It's possible by the time AROD develops we'll be losing several of our best players that are at a very high level right now. Maybe he's ready for a SB run now and maybe TT thinks Favre is not as good as AROD. Then you move him for whatever pick you can.

Ouch! It's all so sordid. Do you think this is going to not go away B?

Not for a while; I'm perfectly fine with bringing BF back; he gives us the best chance to win this year IMO. Who knows when the play of cagy veterans like Harris, Woodsen, Clifton, Tauscher...will drop off. The time is now. They should bring in whoever gives them the best chance to win it all.

It sure doesn't appear they are in any rush to bring him back though

[digitaldean]

Which is weirder? Hanging out at a Trekkie site arguing over what would have happened if Picard had violated the Prime Directive in episode 127, or hanging out at PackerRats continually wondering what will happen if Brett decides to unretire?

I'm not going to poke fun at Trekkies for a while. That would be like an Arcruvian plasma miner calling out a Cardassian veck merchant.

Actually, it's trying to figure out how 7 of 9 fit into that outfit....

[The Leaper]

But I do know that you don't move forward by moving backwards.

If your idea of moving forward is dumping a HOF caliber QB coming off an MVP caliber season, I guess I don't agree with your idea of moving forward.

Going from Favre to Rodgers is a huge step BACKWARD in 2008. Sure, it potentially COULD be a step or two forward 2-3 years from now...but we don't know that with any certainty.

The only certainty at this point is that going from Favre to Rodgers is a huge step backward.

[The Shadow]

But I do know that you don't move forward by moving backwards.

If your idea of moving forward is dumping a HOF caliber QB coming off an MVP caliber season, I guess I don't agree with your idea of moving forward.

Going from Favre to Rodgers is a huge step BACKWARD in 2008. Sure, it potentially COULD be a step or two forward 2-3 years from now...but we don't know that with any certainty.

The only certainty at this point is that going from Favre to Rodgers is a huge step backward.

Mmmm...going with the 38 year old keeps the future qb from developing and sends the message that the individual's ego is more important than the team's welfare?
Sorry, don't buy it as a good thing.

[Gunakor]

I understand it from both sides. Both make very valid points. Favre was great last year, and likely would be great again this year, so for 2008 specifically it would be wise to welcome him back. But bringing him back would stunt the development of the future QB, and I for one am not as willing to put the future on hold for one last hurrah (we think it would be, but no guarantees) for a 38 year old legend. I wish Favre would just ride of into retirment gracefully, but it appears that he isn't willing to do so. But I don't want to put the future on hold any longer. Let's get this new show on the road and see what we have. My bet is that we have a pretty good cast even without Favre in the spotlight, and spectators will still get thier money's worth.

I don't get how people can say Rodgers WON'T lead us to the playoffs this year, as if it weren't even possible for him to do so. For the same reasons people doubt Rodgers - the fact that he hasn't played alot - people should remain optimistic. He hasn't shown us that he's a failure yet either. I wish everyone would stop labelling him as such.

You know, until this whole Favre story surfaced early this month, I would have thought most of us were on board with Rodgers. So is Rodgers now incapable of leading this team solely because Favre wants to come back? That is to say, if Favre had just maintained that he was retired and would stay retired - and no stories of his return had been reported in every media outlet in the United States - would this team still be as fucked this year as many now claim it would be with Rodgers as the starter? Is it not even a possibility that the best WR corps in the NFL would continue to lead the league in YAC whether it be Favre or Rodgers at QB?

Agree with me or not, those WR's were the stars of our offense last year IMO. Those same WR's that would continually make guys miss and turn 5 yard slants and crossing patterns into 20 yard gains are coming back this year regardless who is throwing the ball to them. Whether it's Favre throwing that slant or Rodgers, the yards will continue to pile up. The offense will continue to move the ball. Life goes on. There will still be football being played at Lambeau in January 2009, regardless who the QB is. This is a phenomonal football team, even with Rodgers as the starter.

[Scott Campbell]

So is Rodgers now incapable of leading this team solely because Favre wants to come back?

I don't think that's it. He might be capable, but his performance carries a greater degree of uncertainty. We know what we've got with Favre.

[Gunakor]

So is Rodgers now incapable of leading this team solely because Favre wants to come back?

I don't think that's it. He might be capable, but his performance carries a greater degree of uncertainty. We know what we've got with Favre.

I see your point. But wouldn't bringing Favre back this year make for an even greater degree of uncertainty going forward? Either way we are going to have to deal with this. Putting it off another year isn't going to make it go away, and will probably make that feeling of uncertainty even worse. Especially if Rodgers bolts after the 2009 season.

[Scott Campbell]

I think I see both sides. But make no mistake - Favre's actions divided the Packer nation and possibly the team into 2 sides.

I still think Brett gives the team the best shot to win this year. Though I'm not nearly as informed as McCarthy, and haven't been there first hand to watch him develop in practice for the last 3 years.

[The Leaper]

I don't buy the notion that Favre's indecision is threatening to tear the team apart. If our locker room is that fragile, we don't stand a chance of winning shit anytime soon.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't buy the notion that Favre's indecision is threatening to tear the team apart. If our locker room is that fragile, we don't stand a chance of winning shit anytime soon.

I agree. The players are probably a bit confused by it all, like us, but they will be ready to play when training camp opens in a few weeks. And I expect decisions will be made by then. If Favre is gonna play, it only makes sense if he is a camp somewhere this summer.

[Gunakor]

Favre's decision has torn the fan base in two. The team is not split. They are all 100% committed to winning regardless who the QB is. They understand that either one of them gives them a helluva shot at the playoffs this year. I understand that as well. My feelings on this one are based on the presumption that Rodgers will feel taken advantage of, wish his career would take him elsewhere, and depart after 2009 if we bring Favre back this year. I truly believe that Rodgers is the future QB of this franchise and do not want to risk anything that could potentially drive him away. Even if that means finally closing the door on Favre.