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  • Murphy : ..as an organization.. we're going to move on..

    the following is being touted as Murphy closing the door on Favre's return :



    Packers CEO downplays Favre 'itch'
    July 9, 2008 10:56 AM
    Posted by ESPN.com's Kevin Seifert

    Whether intentional or otherwise, a group of caravanning Green Bay Packers spent part of Tuesday painting quarterback Brett Favre as a retired player who misses the game -- and not one who is trying to get back into it.

    Mark Murphy, the Packers' new president and CEO, told the Green Bay Press-Gazette that "no player leaves the game gracefully." During a promotional visit to Fond du Lac High School, Murphy added, "It's kind of the nature of what makes great players great, is they're competitors and they always want to compete and they want that next challenge, and it's hard to find that next thing that's going to give you that excitement and adrenaline. That's what we're seeing a little bit here."

    Later, Murphy said, "I keep going back to his retirement announcement and how sincere and heartfelt that was. I think it's pretty reasonable that, as an organization, we're going to move on."
    Murphy's sentiments -- echoed by Bob Harlan, his predecessor -- may well represent the Packers' true interpretation of Favre's situation. But it also positions the organization for the moment when -- and if -- Favre publicly announces his plans to play. (Or, at least, formally requests the Packers remove him from their reserve/retired list.)

    The Packers know their least painful scenario is for Favre to remain retired. They also know how difficult it will be to win the public-relations battle if Favre presses the issue at a time when the organization, in Murphy's words, is moving on.

    Murphy's response reminds the public that four months ago, a teary Favre said on national television that he didn't want to play any longer. The Packers took Favre at his word, installed Aaron Rodgers as their starter and began the journey into a new era. Eventually, the Packers will consider the issue a matter of Favre keeping his word.
    more freedom, less government. Go Sarah!

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    TT should be the one saying this if it is true; but then again didn't Murphy also flap off on how he expects a decision by end of week on Favre's retirement when the reality was he was not ready to decide ?

    Regardless I'm still of the view that the Packers brass does not want to deal with this. If they get the letter, I hope they move fast in meeting with Favre, and granting him his release. I'd be fine with a trade as well; I'm just ready for it to all go away and if they are forced to make a decision they will be judged by it.
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bretsky
      TT should be the one saying this if it is true; but then again didn't Murphy also flap off on how he expects a decision by end of week on Favre's retirement when the reality was he was not ready to decide ?
      This may be a backdoor campaign to mollify the fans and take the heat off Thompson.Here's Bob Harlan also from yesterday :

      “(Favre) left at such a great time. It was a great season, he had a wonderful year. It was a good time to go. you always hate to see somebody come back and try to do something maybe when their best times are past. I felt badly when (Hall of Fame defensive end) Reggie (White) came back and played in Carolina in 2000 because he wasn’t the same person. You want to remember somebody when they’re at the top of their game, and Brett certainly was last year.”

      more freedom, less government. Go Sarah!

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      • #4
        haha Harlan makes it sound like Favre has been out of the game for 2-3 years... He has only been retired for a couple of months and missed NO FOOTBALL...

        He is comparing Reggie Whites comeback to Brett Favres

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        • #5
          I'm kind of surprised they commented. I guess they finally got tired of taking darts....

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Scott Campbell
            I'm kind of surprised they commented. I guess they finally got tired of taking darts....

            Yes, part of me says they should be above that
            and
            The other part of me says the game was started elsewhere so they should be able to play too
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bretsky
              Originally posted by Scott Campbell
              I'm kind of surprised they commented. I guess they finally got tired of taking darts....

              Yes, part of me says they should be above that
              and
              The other part of me says the game was started elsewhere so they should be able to play too

              Kind of sneaky keeping Ted out of it. But it's rather ingenious just referring back to what Brett said a couple of months ago.


              Excellent find motife.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                Originally posted by Bretsky
                Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                I'm kind of surprised they commented. I guess they finally got tired of taking darts....

                Yes, part of me says they should be above that
                and
                The other part of me says the game was started elsewhere so they should be able to play too

                Kind of sneaky keeping Ted out of it. But it's rather ingenious just referring back to what Brett said a couple of months ago.

                It really is genius like; Bob Harlan is adored. Murphy...not really sure any comments from him help one bit. Actually he should probably keep quiet and let Harlan do the dirty work.

                But they take the onus off of TT some; who is getting whipped by the national media on the talk radio shows.

                Dang, I wish I was in the car all day lately; Packer talk is everywhere... ESPN is going nuts with their story...Mike and Mike, Colin Cower, Turico and his guest, Van Pelt...etc..... the majority of their analysts have not been kind to our GM.
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bretsky
                  ..... the majority of their analysts have not been kind to our GM.

                  Makes sense. Favre is an institution. Ted isn't.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                    Originally posted by Bretsky
                    ..... the majority of their analysts have not been kind to our GM.

                    Makes sense. Favre is an institution. Ted isn't.
                    The media has never really given Ted the much credit for the team he has built. Ted won't get his due until the Packers win without Favre.
                    I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #11
                      Re: Murphy : ..as an organization.. we're going to move on..

                      Eventually, the Packers will consider the issue a matter of Favre keeping his word.
                      This is a lame perspective. If a player decides to come out of retirement, they haven't broken their word.

                      I'm a little tired of the spin that the Packers are damaged by Favre wanting to return to football. It simply gives them more choices. The only "damage" is that TT could look bad if he makes a choice that ends up being less successful than other options might have been. So what.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Murphy : ..as an organization.. we're going to move on..

                        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                        Eventually, the Packers will consider the issue a matter of Favre keeping his word.
                        This is a lame perspective. If a player decides to come out of retirement, they haven't broken their word.

                        I'm a little tired of the spin that the Packers are damaged by Favre wanting to return to football. It simply gives them more choices. The only "damage" is that TT could look bad if he makes a choice that ends up being less successful than other options might have been. So what.
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #13
                          Re: Murphy : ..as an organization.. we're going to move on..

                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                          Eventually, the Packers will consider the issue a matter of Favre keeping his word.
                          This is a lame perspective. If a player decides to come out of retirement, they haven't broken their word.

                          I'm a little tired of the spin that the Packers are damaged by Favre wanting to return to football. It simply gives them more choices. The only "damage" is that TT could look bad if he makes a choice that ends up being less successful than other options might have been. So what.
                          Holy shit! HH said something deep, intuitive and insightful. And didn't follow it up with a comment about La Leche League or a backhanded crack about the Nutz/Murphy/MTP love triangle! Hell hath indeed frozen over!

                          Anyways, fully agree. Favre returning in and of itself SHOULD NOT hurt the Packers. If they allow it to fracture the dressing room, or something of the sort, that's on them (MM and TT) not Favre.

                          I also don't get all this crap about Favre coming back after he's done. There's an article about it at Sportsline, comparing him to some other stars that went back out when they shouldn't have, like Reggie, Deon (his return with Baltimore), Rice (in Seattle) or Bruce Smith - but those guys stuck around after they were struggling to earn a roster spot. Favre is still easily top ten, arguably top 5 at his position.
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                          Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                          • #14
                            Re: Murphy : ..as an organization.. we're going to move on..

                            Originally posted by Guiness
                            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                            Eventually, the Packers will consider the issue a matter of Favre keeping his word.
                            This is a lame perspective. If a player decides to come out of retirement, they haven't broken their word.

                            I'm a little tired of the spin that the Packers are damaged by Favre wanting to return to football. It simply gives them more choices. The only "damage" is that TT could look bad if he makes a choice that ends up being less successful than other options might have been. So what.
                            Holy shit! HH said something deep, intuitive and insightful. And didn't follow it up with a comment about La Leche League or a backhanded crack about the Nutz/Murphy/MTP love triangle! Hell hath indeed frozen over!

                            Anyways, fully agree. Favre returning in and of itself SHOULD NOT hurt the Packers. If they allow it to fracture the dressing room, or something of the sort, that's on them (MM and TT) not Favre.

                            I also don't get all this crap about Favre coming back after he's done. There's an article about it at Sportsline, comparing him to some other stars that went back out when they shouldn't have, like Reggie, Deon (his return with Baltimore), Rice (in Seattle) or Bruce Smith - but those guys stuck around after they were struggling to earn a roster spot. Favre is still easily top ten, arguably top 5 at his position.
                            Favre returning to the packers will indeed hurt the team now. MM has staked his control and command of this team on all veterans participating in mini's and OTA's unless they are injured. If he lets favre do an end around his law and reinstitutes him as a starter what message is sent to woodson and harris who have come around and capitulated to MM's demands?? How about the rookies who have bought into his message of being 100% dedicated to the team and winning.

                            If they let favre come back in and hand him the starters job it sends a horrendous message. One thing that makes great coaches great is having complete control of a football team.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • #15
                              Re: Murphy : ..as an organization.. we're going to move on..

                              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                              Eventually, the Packers will consider the issue a matter of Favre keeping his word.
                              This is a lame perspective. If a player decides to come out of retirement, they haven't broken their word.

                              I'm a little tired of the spin that the Packers are damaged by Favre wanting to return to football. It simply gives them more choices. The only "damage" is that TT could look bad if he makes a choice that ends up being less successful than other options might have been. So what.


                              The damage is all the speculation and uncertainty, not that Brett wants to return to football. Brett seems to be in no hurry to clear up the mystery. Brett needs to simply tell the team what he's doing, so the franchise can figure out what its going to do. The team doesn't have any choices until Brett finally gets around to revealing what his intentions are. Everybody is waiting on him.

                              Play. Or Retire. I don't really care which. But make up your fucking mind already.

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