Murphy : ..as an organization.. we're going to move on..

[woodbuck27]

Re: Murphy : ..as an organization.. we're going to move on..

And if they don't want him, it probably makes it easier on the management if Favre does not come back. They'd rather have him stay retired than release him or trade him for a mid to late round pick and deal with the controversy

If I were Ted, I'd go public with this message. "Brett, we love ya. Call us and tell us if you want to play, or want to hang it up. Then we can help you work it out. Until then, were kind of stuck. So just let us know. Soon please."

What do you do when your workng for 'the MAN'?

If you're talking about Brett, and that's not entirely clear, he's not working for anybody. He's still retired.

ahhhh ''If I were Ted, I'd go public with this message...''

Ted ... Scott not Brett.

Are you really stupid or enjoy 'acting stupid' or just a Jack Ass Scott?

[Scott Campbell]

Re: Murphy : ..as an organization.. we're going to move on..

Are you really stupid or enjoy 'acting stupid' or just a Jack Ass Scott?

Probably some of all 3, but its not really for me to decide.

Your post isn't very clear. I still can't tell what you're getting at.

[mraynrand]

If I'm Brett, I file my paperwork with the Packers, and call a press conference and say "I'm going to play football. I made a mistake, and might have been a bit hasty. I was tired, but I still have more than enough to get the job done. I love playing, and hope the Packers will have me. That's their choice. If not, we'll work something out. I know my 180 has made things difficult. Sorry for all the commotion. No questions. Thank you."

That would be a perfect statement. And if he's not coming back, call in to a national radio show or appear on a national TV show and simply say "Hey, I'm not coming back. It's all rumors. Best of luck to the Packers, including Mike McCarthy, Aaron Rodgers and all my buds there. I look forward to seeing everyone at the Packer Hall of Fame induction and then at the opening game where I'm totally honored to have my number retired. Later guys." Speculation over.

[The Leaper]

Aaron Rodgers made a quip that's too easily taken out of context. Big deal. I think you're making a federal case out of nothing.

Perhaps.

It is true he didn't have a meltdown like Leaf. However, this quote was given BEFORE all the latest Favre stuff started popping up.

I also cringe when he rips into the fans. The QB of an NFL team just can't listen to the fans, because there is almost certainly a segment that is going to hate anything you do. Clearly, Rodgers did listen...which is why he said what he said. He needs to learn not to listen.

[Scott Campbell]

That would be a perfect statement. And if he's not coming back, call in to a national radio show or appear on a national TV show and simply say "Hey, I'm not coming back. It's all rumors. Best of luck to the Packers, including Mike McCarthy, Aaron Rodgers and all my buds there. I look forward to seeing everyone at the Packer Hall of Fame induction and then at the opening game where I'm totally honored to have my number retired. Later guys." Speculation over.

Exactly. It ain't that hard.

[Scott Campbell]

I also cringe when he rips into the fans.

If it becomes a pattern of behavior, then we have a problem. Right now I just view it as an isolated quip that's too easily taken out of context. I am not convinced it was malicious.

[swede]

“If Favre throws for 4,000 yards and takes a team deep into the playoffs while the Packers struggle, it could destroy careers for those who made the decision to cut him loose.”

If the mother ship arrives and beams up all true believers it could destroy careers for those who made the decision not to wear foil hats!

[mraynrand]

“If Favre throws for 4,000 yards and takes a team deep into the playoffs while the Packers struggle, it could destroy careers for those who made the decision to cut him loose.”

If the mother ship arrives and beams up all true believers it could destroy careers for those who made the decision not to wear foil hats!

That's very funny. But is it a good description of the reality surrounding Favre? Look, the guy had a great - GREAT - year last year. If not for Brady basically having the best year for a QB in the history of the NFL, he was the league MVP. Does anyone deny that? Why in hell would anyone think that he couldn't have a decent year with a reasonably talented offensive team this year? And if Favre were to play well for another team, and A Rog struggles, OF COURSE TT and MM would take some major heat. Lotta 'Ifs' there, but there shouldn't be much doubt about Favre's talent one year removed from an MVP season.

[packers11]

If not for Brady basically having the best year for a QB in the history of the NFL, he was the league MVP. Does anyone deny that? Why in hell would anyone think that he couldn't have a decent year with a reasonably talented offensive team this year?

Right on... Couldn't have said it better. Favre was on fire last year, and he made many throws a lot of QB's couldn't have. He also made those piece of shit guards look a lot better than they were. Who was the only other person to receiver that 1 MVP vote... Oh yea I think it was the 38 year old QB with the name of Brett Favre.

And if Favre were to play well for another team, and A Rog struggles, OF COURSE TT and MM would take some major heat. Lotta 'Ifs' there, but there shouldn't be much doubt about Favre's talent one year removed from an MVP season.

So true. IF that scenario did pan out that way, all hell would break loose in Green Bay.

[Tarlam!]

Why is it a given that even a Brett Favre can step into a new team and pick up a new offense in the space of a single training camp?

I am far more concerned that if he is released or traded that he might ruin his legacy by NOT having an MVP season.

[mraynrand]

Why is it a given that even a Brett Favre can step into a new team and pick up a new offense in the space of a single training camp?

I am far more concerned that if he is released or traded that he might ruin his legacy by NOT having an MVP season.

I'd be more concerned about those around him learning his offense. He's not going to play for some team that runs something that he can't handle or isn't familiar with - the whole reason though, that he had such a great season last year, was the massive amounts of extra time he put into study and preparation. And he certainly doesn't have to have an MVP season to prevent tarnishing his legacy. I'd say there's little he could do that would tarnish his legacy any more than his final throws in 2003 and 2007.

[swede]

“If Favre throws for 4,000 yards and takes a team deep into the playoffs while the Packers struggle, it could destroy careers for those who made the decision to cut him loose.”

If the mother ship arrives and beams up all true believers it could destroy careers for those who made the decision not to wear foil hats!

That's very funny. But is it a good description of the reality surrounding Favre? Look, the guy had a great - GREAT - year last year. If not for Brady basically having the best year for a QB in the history of the NFL, he was the league MVP. Does anyone deny that? Why in hell would anyone think that he couldn't have a decent year with a reasonably talented offensive team this year? And if Favre were to play well for another team, and A Rog struggles, OF COURSE TT and MM would take some major heat. Lotta 'Ifs' there, but there shouldn't be much doubt about Favre's talent one year removed from an MVP season.

You make a defensible statement, couching your argument in terms like "decent" and "reasonable" given good talent on the next team. But Kirwon's statement was silly, spouting huge numbers on the one side and wrecked careers on the other.

Joe Montana played pretty well in Kansas City in his 2nd year there at the age of 38, putting up 3200 yards and 16 touchdowns. But they lost in the first round of the playoffs. His first year with Kansas City was just okay in 11 games, but he did throw 13 td's.

Joe Montana was that kind of man and that kind of quarterback. Brett is not going to walk into somebody else's system and STUDY and ATTEND MEETINGS and FOLLOW the GAME PLAN and throw for 4,000 yards in his determined bid to destroy TT's career.

Edit: And I agree with you about Favre's performance last year. He never should have retired in the first place. Green Bay was the best place for him to make another run at the world championship.

[The Leaper]

Why is it a given that even a Brett Favre can step into a new team and pick up a new offense in the space of a single training camp?

It isn't...which is why I've believed all along that Favre has no desire to return to play for another team. He wants to play for the Packers in 2008. All the "release" talk has been leaked to put pressure on the Packers to let Favre return.

If the Packers really have no interest in allowing him to return and state that they plan on trading him, I'm guessing Favre goes back into retirement. Considering his retirement comments regarding workload and mental fatigue, it would make no sense for him to go into an entirely new situation.

[Pugger]

Should all this speculation about Brett wanting to return (and who really knows without it coming straight from the horse's mouth?) TT will most likely tell Brett to put in his request in writing to the NFL and the team about being taken off the reserve/retire list and back on the active roster. No way in h3ll will TT just give Brett his unconditional release! The Packers do NOT want Brett to come back and haunt them. And would Brett REALLY want to go to another team and learn a whole new system at this stage of his career? I think not. If he were traded I think Brett would then file his retirement papers. So if Brett wants to come back I believe the Packers will let him return. Lord knows what they'll do about Rodgers, but the NFL is about winning NOW. Next year can wait. They'll probably show Aaron a bunch of money to placate him until 2009...

[mraynrand]

But Kirwon's statement was silly, spouting huge numbers on the one side and wrecked careers on the other.

. Brett is not going to walk into somebody else's system and STUDY and ATTEND MEETINGS and FOLLOW the GAME PLAN and throw for 4,000 yards in his determined bid to destroy TT's career.

I agree that Kirwon's statement was somewhat extreme. I think that's it's a bit misguided on your part to suggest Favre would study, etc. in a bid to destroy TT's career. What seems more likely to me is that should Favre want to come back, and he ends up playing for someone else, that he'd come in and study and repare to be successful, for his own sake.