BREAKING NEWS: Brett Favre asks Packers for his release

[Bretsky]

I'm with scott. Activate him and try and trade him to the AFC. If you can't swing a deal, cut him in the last cuts.

I doubt Scott would hack him in the last set of cuts; that would be heartless and a classless thing to do knowing he's good enough to be a NFL player

[DonHutson]

I'm with scott. Activate him and try and trade him to the AFC. If you can't swing a deal, cut him in the last cuts.

Ditto. There should be a separate thread on how to deal with this. I had to read though 15 pages and this was the only issue I was really concerned with. Where is Patler? I'm curious when, exactly, is the date that a player must be released to not have to take up their salary.

Typically it's pay as you go. If you cut someone three weeks in then you've paid them 3/17ths of their salary and that's what counts against the cap. However, I read something that Favre's salary is guaranteed and if he's on the roster for week one of the regular season, he gets it all and it all counts against the cap.

If it comes down to it, Ted needs to at least bluff that he would keep Favre on the roster until the trade deadline. If a team wants him now instead of later they can pay up. If Brett wants to get started sooner than later he can agree on it. If the Packers don't want this to be a distraction they can arrange a trade to a team Brett prefers. Everyone can be happy if they stop taking things personally. Hopefully that happens.

[Kiwon]

I wish Mike McKenzie and Javon Walker would weigh in on this issue.

Me too. Those two always have important, incisive comments.

And besides that they always have good things to say.

[pbmax]

Eligible veterans (you need X years of service) on the roster for game one are due the entire salary. You have it right JH.

I'm with scott. Activate him and try and trade him to the AFC. If you can't swing a deal, cut him in the last cuts.

Ditto. There should be a separate thread on how to deal with this. I had to read though 15 pages and this was the only issue I was really concerned with. Where is Patler? I'm curious when, exactly, is the date that a player must be released to not have to take up their salary. If it's before the first game like SC says then Favre and the Packers will have to work together to get this done because Favre will be screwed entering a new offense with no chance to learn the ropes. Like I said, if this is true then SC and Harlan were right in saying the Packers really do have a lot of leverage.

[The Shadow]

I wish Mike McKenzie and Javon Walker would weigh in on this issue.

Me too. Those two always have important, incisive comments.

And besides that they always have good things to say.

I would just like to hear their thoughts on keeping one's word and honoring a commitment that they made.

[RashanGary]

Thanks,

I did start a new thread on this. I just think it's too interesting and too relevant to be lost in 15 pages of other stuff.

[pbmax]

Pete Dougherty was on local radio and his close-to-Favre source said he didn't remember that Favre was unretiring in late May[should be March, not May-pb] as per Glazer's story, he remember that Thompson and Favre were going to meet for an "exit interview" type thing. Seems kind of late for an exit interview, since his press conference (which was several days after new broke) was on March 5.

Either the story is bogus or Dougherty is confused, because by the nature of the explanation, it sounded like a complete dodge of the question.

[pbmax]

Good to see you still kicking. I think the only thing to say about this is that it rarely ends good. Or it wouldn't end at all.

Someone tell Bretsky that Odell Thurman is wanted by the police again. Only after he laughs at himself for rooting for an Odell Packer draft pick can you tell him about Favre. He deserves to go out remembering how to laugh.

Profanity was heard at the bank today when a customer walked into my office, noted the Packer Pic and the Favre pick, chuckled, and told me it's pretty official that Favre wants back, GB does not want him, and Favre asked for his release.

BRING BACK ODELL, and BRING BACK FAVRE

[motife]

In late March during the NFL Owners Meeting, Favre informed the team he wanted to play again, multiple sources have told FOXSports.com. Not only did he insist he was returning, both head coach Mike McCarthy and GM Ted Thompson agreed that he still had something left and they would welcome him back. Despite the fact that those close to Favre have stated Thompson did not want Favre back, Thompson was the deciding factor in agreeing it was not too late to have him un-retire at that time and start for the Packers in 2008.

In fact, team brass went as far as chartering a jet to fly to Mississippi to make it official later that week. The agreement was that the NFL’s all-time leading passer would return for the year but help make it easier and palatable for Rodgers, who would have to wait another season to take the helm.

The group was set for this huge move when Favre suddenly phoned the team two days before the meeting was to take place and informed McCarthy that he had changed his mind yet again and was staying retired. While team officials were stunned by Favre’s reversal, they made the decision to move on and draft his replacement, a move that Favre at the time understood. The Packers selected two quarterbacks in April’s draft, Louisville’s Brian Brohm in the 2nd round and LSU’s Matt Flynn in the 7th round.

Then, a few weeks ago, Favre phoned the team stating he had that “itch” again to play. However, since he had jilted the Packers in March, the team simply took his latest request with a grain of salt. In addition, the team has put considerable time and attention into making Rodgers comfortable as the heir apparent.

[RashanGary]

Pete Dougherty was on local radio and his close-to-Favre source said he didn't remember that Favre was unretiring in late May as per Glazer's story, he remember that Thompson and Favre were going to meet for an "exit interview" type thing. Seems kind of late for an exit interview, since his press conference (which was several days after new broke) was on March 5.

Either the story is bogus or Dougherty is confused, because by the nature of the explanation, it sounded like a complete dodge of the question.

The Favre camp trusts Mortenson to put out Favre friendly coverage. They have a little gentlemans agreement that "you give me the scoop" and "I'll return the favor" type thing. Hence, Mortensons team damaging, Favre friendly report.

Glazer appears to be working a similar agreement with the Packers. It's really turning quite ugly with the Favre camp saying everything they can to put pressure on the Packers so the Packers opened up to Glazer to return the favor. This is what Havel said on the radio anyway. Now Glazer gets some very inside information that never comes out of Green Bay because the Packers are done playing games. If they are going to absorb punches, they are going to throw them as well. This is how dirty friendships are spawned and reporters made.

Clearly Murphy, Harlan and the gang is on board with this because this is too calculated for TT to think up on his own. I think TT may be a brilliant GM but I really don't see an ounce of interpersonal communication aptitude. It really seems the Packers have bonded to fight this fight against Favre. All sides seem to be pulling all stops. This is a good old fashioned white collar brawl. It's really quite impresive and supremely entertaining.

[mmmdk]

Phew, just read most of this thread. What a debacle.

I've always been Packers team first, players second but this is weird. I actually don't want Favre in another NFL jersey even though I'm dissapointed in Favre or rather his history of wavering between retiring or not. I'm a wee bit surprised by my feelings myself.

[motife]

The Glazer report was a leak direct from the Packers.

It was intended to illustrate Favre's fickleness, and penchant to jerk the Packer's around.

[sheepshead]

Pete Dougherty was on local radio and his close-to-Favre source said he didn't remember that Favre was unretiring in late May[should be March, not May-pb] as per Glazer's story, he remember that Thompson and Favre were going to meet for an "exit interview" type thing. Seems kind of late for an exit interview, since his press conference (which was several days after new broke) was on March 5.

Either the story is bogus or Dougherty is confused, because by the nature of the explanation, it sounded like a complete dodge of the question.

Who the hell is Pete Dougherty? And why would we take his word over the Pack press release?

[pbmax]

motife has the correction too, but I also corrected my Pete D post. He was speaking to his source about the aborted March return, not about anything in May. I just cannot keep the dates straight on my keyboard.

I wasn't aware of the Glazer-Packer connection, but clearly his article is from a Packer friendly source. I think the Packers have allowed the personnel guys (I have always imagined it to be either McKenzie, Dorsey or Schneider) to leak some info, but on the big items they are usually leak proof. This is a change of tactics for them.

[pbmax]

Dougherty is a reporter/columnist for the Green Bay Press Gazette. And I am not saying you should take his word over anybody's.

But he was not contradicting the Packers press release, he was saying he couldn't confirm Jay Glazer's FoxSports.com story and in fact had received a different version of the event in question. But his source was not 100% confident of the memory. That's what made it seem like a dodge to me.

Pete Dougherty was on local radio and his close-to-Favre source said he didn't remember that Favre was unretiring in late May[should be March, not May-pb] as per Glazer's story, he remember that Thompson and Favre were going to meet for an "exit interview" type thing. Seems kind of late for an exit interview, since his press conference (which was several days after new broke) was on March 5.

Either the story is bogus or Dougherty is confused, because by the nature of the explanation, it sounded like a complete dodge of the question.

Who the hell is Pete Dougherty? And why would we take his word over the Pack press release?