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**Brandon494** · 06-08-2006, 01:58 PM

I don't agree what they said about Blackmon being better off at WR. I guarntee that if he would had stayed at CB his senior year at BC he would have been taken in the late 1st to early 2nd round.

**red** · 06-08-2006, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Brandon494

I don't agree what they said about Blackmon being better off at WR. I guarntee that if he would had stayed at CB his senior year at BC he would have been taken in the late 1st to early 2nd round.

i agree, everything i've seen says blackmon might have been the #1 cb taken if he had stayed there. i haven't seen anybody say he is a better WR, well, until now

**The Leaper** · 06-08-2006, 02:50 PM

All I can say is that every time I look at that first day's haul, I get more and more impressed. Thompson had a tremendous day one this year.

**woodbuck27** · 06-08-2006, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by The Leaper

All I can say is that every time I look at that first day's haul, I get more and more impressed. Thompson had a tremendous day one this year.

Here's the way I see it after selecting AJ Hawk with the #5 pick overall.

We traded Javon Walker to Denver for the #37 pick and we owned the #36 pick and some people felt that TT should have used his picks there and taken the quality players available.Instead he elected to tradedown both picks #36 to N.E. and #37 to Atlanta for more selections lower in the draft.

WHY? Isn't quality better than quantity?

Looking at what actually happened:

@ #36 New England picked WR Chad Jackson, **
@ #37 Atlanta picked CB Jimmy Williams , ++ . . . . and
the pick @ #38 was an OLB - Thomas Howard , ## selected by Oakland.

** We selected WR Greg Jennings @ #52 and he was considered NFL ready and 'in fact' is showing us alot to us so far and may even challenge to start opposite WR Donald Driver.

++ we didn't need to go with a CB as we were going to sign an experienced CB in FA , vet. CB Charles Woodson.

## We selected an OLB, AJ Hawk @ #5 and elected to pick a ILB, Abdul Hodge early in the 3rd rd. @ pick #67.

So, in WR Greg Jennings we secured a solid prospect @ WR and the picks @ #5, OLB AJ Hawk and #67, ILB Abdul Hodge bolstered OUR need at LBer.

On top of this, TT has picks #47 and #75 to select 'at need' on OUR OL. TT selected T/G Daryn Colledge and G/C Jason Spitz with these picks respectively.

Indeed I feel anytime you get 5 picks in the first 75 players selected that is big, but when you fill real needs, that is HUGE.

TT had a BIG Day indeed, on the first day of the 2006 Draft.

**woodbuck27** · 06-08-2006, 04:57 PM

We are really in serious bad shape in the middle of OUR OL and TT is addressing that, or at least attempting to do so with first day draft picks Colledge and Spitz, and bringing in C Wayne Lucier who started 20 games with NYG in 2003-04. Wayne Lucier was a 7th Rd. draft choice, 249th overall in 2003.

Wayne Lucier
C | (6-3, 301, 5.2) | COLORADO
By Pro Football Weekly

Notes: Name pronounced "Loo-sear." High school football and basketball player who also was a weight man. Went to Northwestern to play for Gary Barnett and later followed him to Colorado. Started once at Northwestern at tight end and six times at offensive guard in 1998. Caught one pass for four yards. Started every game at right guard in '99. Mandatory-transfer redshirt in 2000. Lucier started every game at center in '01. Was an All-Big 12 guard last year and got some All-America notice.

Positives: Very smart, versatile player with a great work ethic and motor. Quick into blocks and gets good fits. Has a feel for blocking angles and positioning his body. Gets the most out of his ability. Good on the second level and gets to linebackers.

Negatives: Lacks great natural size and play strength and will really struggle with size in line, unless he plays low with exceptional leverage. Gets bull-rushed and pushed back too much. Is not overly athletic and will struggle to adjust on the second level at times. Doesn't long-snap.

Summary: An all-out, all-the-time college player who gets the most out of his ability. A true achiever.

Below are OUR Rushing stat's behind OUR OL in 2005:

SEASON TEAM OFFENSIVE LINE STATS ( Green Bay Packers)
Team Rush = 398 ; Yds = 1352; Avg = 3.4;
Left = 67; LYd = 203; LAv = 3.0
Middle = 77; MYd = 167; MAv = 2.2;
Right = 69; RYd = 238; RAv = 3.4;
Sck = 27

**The Leaper** · 06-09-2006, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by woodbuck27

Indeed I feel anytime you get 5 picks in the first 75 players selected that is big, but when you fill real needs, that is HUGE.

TT had a BIG Day indeed, on the first day of the 2006 Draft.

I completely agree. Those trades happened BECAUSE there were "name" players left available at that point that other teams were willing to move up for. Using those trades to pick up quality players at need positions (OL, WR) and grab a value pick at LB who is going to be viewed as a real steal in a couple years IMO was an excellent move.

Anytime you can increase your picks on the first day of the draft, you do it unless there is a player who is a perfect fit for your team and is very worthy of the pick...like Hawk at #5.

Those first five picks were as solid as you are going to find to address the immediate needs of this football team...and all those players look to be strong talents. Anyone critical of Thompson's ability to draft...considering his record in Seattle and what he has done here...is fooling themselves.

**wist43** · 06-09-2006, 08:52 AM

The only thing that brings this draft down is trading Walker... absolutely hate that deal - never should have traded him.

That aside, I liked the draft on paper. Jennings looks to be a polished receiver, Colledge should start at LG, and Hodge was a steal in the 3rd round.

Last year, the Packers had eleven picks and only got a contribution from one player (Collins)... if the Packers are going to show any improvement this year, those 2nd year players need to step up and get on the field and produce - as do some of the rookies.

Hawk and Colledge are pencilled in as starters... Jennings and Hodge should see the field quite a bit as well; so, things are looking good for the rookie class.

**Harlan Huckleby** · 06-09-2006, 09:50 AM

Re: Our 2006 Draft in Review.

Originally posted by woodbuck27

One of the strongest Broncos in the weight room, setting school records in the power clean (438 pounds set in spring 2005), hang clean (464 pounds set in spring 2005), and back squat (665 pounds set in spring of 2005)...Also holds strength record on the offensive line in the vertical jump (35.5 inches in spring 2004)...

Huh, how come I keep reading that Colledge may not be strong enough as a rookie?

Well, I suppose because he is "only" about 300 pounds.

**The Leaper** · 06-09-2006, 10:23 AM

Lucier sounds like a guy who fits the zone blocking scheme to a T. Any kid who is smart, fundamentally sound, and knows how to get to the second level is what you are looking for in a OL prospect.

**woodbuck27** · 06-09-2006, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by The Leaper

Lucier sounds like a guy who fits the zone blocking scheme to a T. Any kid who is smart, fundamentally sound, and knows how to get to the second level is what you are looking for in a OL prospect.

I havn't read alot on him to date. All the talk so far on debth at "C" is Scott Wells, penciled in at #1 followed by #2 Chris White.

Wayne Lucier 6-4 315 lbs. and 26 years old is bigger than both Wells @ 6-2 and 304 lbs. ( 25 yrs. old ) and Chris White the smallest at 6-2 and 285 ibs. ( but only 23 yrs. old ).

**the_idle_threat** · 06-10-2006, 04:48 AM

Re: Our 2006 Draft in Review.

Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby

Originally posted by woodbuck27

One of the strongest Broncos in the weight room, setting school records in the power clean (438 pounds set in spring 2005), hang clean (464 pounds set in spring 2005), and back squat (665 pounds set in spring of 2005)...Also holds strength record on the offensive line in the vertical jump (35.5 inches in spring 2004)...

Huh, how come I keep reading that Colledge may not be strong enough as a rookie?

Well, I suppose because he is "only" about 300 pounds.

From what I've read, there are concerns about his upper body strength ... e.g. bench press

That being said, I think it's a non-issue. Strength can be added very easily with a good workout program. Meanwhile, he's athletic and quick, and those things cannot be so easliy improved.

**Harlan Huckleby** · 06-10-2006, 08:26 AM

Re: Our 2006 Draft in Review.

Originally posted by the_idle_threat

From what I've read, there are concerns about his upper body strength ... e.g. bench press

But this article just said he's a record-setting weight lifter! You can't tell me guy does power cleans without strong shoulders! As Dr. Henry Lee said in the OJ trial, "Something wrong here."

It goes back to my other rant about how summertime profiles and camp reports on players mean very little.

**Bretsky** · 06-10-2006, 08:32 AM

Re: Our 2006 Draft in Review.

Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby

Originally posted by the_idle_threat

From what I've read, there are concerns about his upper body strength ... e.g. bench press

But this article just said he's a record-setting weight lifter! You can't tell me guy does power cleans without strong shoulders! As Dr. Henry Lee said in the OJ trial, "Something wrong here."

It goes back to my other rant about how summertime profiles and camp reports on players mean very little.

Honestly, I can't remember which is was, but all the scouting reports concern over DC was he wasn't strong enough in upper OR lower body. Can't remember which one though, but I'd concur I read the same reports

**packerpete** · 06-10-2006, 10:01 AM

Re: Our 2006 Draft in Review.

Originally posted by Bretsky

Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby

Originally posted by the_idle_threat

From what I've read, there are concerns about his upper body strength ... e.g. bench press

But this article just said he's a record-setting weight lifter! You can't tell me guy does power cleans without strong shoulders! As Dr. Henry Lee said in the OJ trial, "Something wrong here."

It goes back to my other rant about how summertime profiles and camp reports on players mean very little.

Honestly, I can't remember which is was, but all the scouting reports concern over DC was he wasn't strong enough in upper OR lower body. Can't remember which one though, but I'd concur I read the same reports

strength in upper body, as measured by bench press reps.

The bench press has always seemed incredibly stupid to me. The pushing motion you use to bench press doesnt mean a GD thing in most strength applications.

Colledge is a very strong man, he will be fine. when he needs to do Victoria's secret push-up bra advertising, he can go and bench press until his tits are suitable. Thats about the value of over-doing the bench press.

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