A battle is brewing. Time to pick sides

[imscott72]

Yes, if the Packers flop it could get pretty ugly, esspecially if Favre has success.

On the flip side, if the Packers tear it up and Favre has a bad year I think the Packer brass will have exited the Wolf/Favre shadow and truely entered into their own era.

Absolutely true

I hope Green Bay gets a 3rd round pick (to me that's the highest they will possibly get) if they trade Favre.

If Green Bay does not win the Super Bowl I'd like to see the team they pitch Favre to win it all.

Why would we only get a 3rd when Montana got a player plus a 1st and a 3rd? I think he has to go to the highest bidder assuming it's not in the division.

Was Montana 38 years old when he was traded? I'm not entirely sure, I'd have to look it up, but I don't think he was that old. If he wasn't, then there's your answer. A first round pick is supposed to be used to build your team for the future. A 38 year old QB does nothing for the long term success of your team, so I would not use a 1st round pick to get him. Even if it's Brett Favre.

I dont' remember how old Montana was, but I do know he wasn't even 100% healthy like Favre is. I'd be terribly disappointed if we didn't get at least a 1st for him if not a 1st and a 5th or something similar.

[Gunakor]

As an avid TT supporter I'd like to promise everyone that if we sink into the doldrums of the NFL under Thompsons command that I will have zero excuses.

If? I think when should be the operative word. Sooner or later every team is going to have a bad season. And as soon as the Packers do, you can bet it'll be break out the pitch fork time for the I HATE TED crowd. And they're an angry bunch, after having to bite their tongues after the 13-3 romp last year.

It would likely be later rather than sooner. Remember the 21 starters not named Aaron Rodgers are pretty good too.

[GoPackGo]

I dont' remember how old Montana was, but I do know he wasn't even 100% healthy like Favre is. I'd be terribly disappointed if we didn't get at least a 1st for him if not a 1st and a 5th or something similar.

He was 37

[Scott Campbell]

I dont' remember how old Montana was, but I do know he wasn't even 100% healthy like Favre is. I'd be terribly disappointed if we didn't get at least a 1st for him if not a 1st and a 5th or something similar.

He was 37

Brett turns 39 in October.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The only thing the Packers did wrong - in my view - is that they did a poor job of planning for this scenario.

Excuse the nitpit, but what POSSIBLE plan could they make to deal with this? They already dealt with yet one more Favre U-turn (this time back to retirement) in late spring. At some point you have to say "enough." The only reasonable plan was to cross their fingers and hope Favre stayed retired.

As John Lennon sang, "Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans."

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think some people forget what a "hard choice" means. It means there is no way to know which is the correct path, and bad consequences possible either way. That's why they call it "hard."

There are good arguments for allowing Favre to return. Good arguments with moving forward with Mr. Rodgers. NOBODY can possibly say which approach is going to work out best. So TT is gonna make his choice. If it works out he is no genius, neither is he a dope if it proves wrong.

[twoseven]

Dead on TwoSeven. Going to be a kick in the nuts watching Brett play for another team but TT has to put the Packers first.

If TT were putting the Packers first, there's no WAY IN HELL he'd risk a superbowl run on an untested starter when he has a QB on his roster who played at an MVP level last year. IT MAKES NO SENSE. Thompson is having a tantrum because Favre isn't fitting his jello mold.

What else makes no sense: Brett has one of his best years on a team that looks very strong with a bright future, Favre finally has weapons, one game from SB and so then amidst all of this excitement and hope for 2008 Brett..drumroll please..retires, he does so because he says he has nothing left to give and cannot do it anymore, end of story, Pack mourns his leaving but respects his choice, pack publically and emphaticaly states AR is the man and team has moved forward supporting their new QB as they should, Brett will be honored immediately by being one of a very short list to have his number retired, sadness in GB but hope and anticipation of a new era begins, Brett then privately says he wants to return in March, the Packers privately say come on back even after they have publically called AR the man and GBP his team, Brett then says oops I changed my mind again, Packers say ok-- your decison again, and they move forward again, they draft TWO quarterbacks and change the offense for AR, then Brett gets an itch, he calls all of the info just rumor and says he's staying retired, meanwhile his family is taking cheap shots (oh his behalf?) at upper management. Favre puts TT and team in a no-win situation by demanding a release, Favre thinks team owes it to him to put the team in a crappy position by letting him go anywhere he wants (like MN, for instance). now Favre is pissed at the team for not complying with his every want and need after his i can't do it anymore so i'm retired- wait i'm not retired in march-retired again in march-now i have an itch in june saga? he has put himself and the team and upper management in a shitty position..and it's somehow TTs fault that it all happend. who loses? the fans that have loved the Pack and Favre for a long time, the organization for damning the legacy that is Favre and potentially it's future by alienating it's new QB, and TT who loses maybe the most no matter what he decides. what a wonderful way top repay the GM that has done a pretty good job putting a good young team together and rescuing it from salary cap hell just a few years back. I wonder if Brett cares. THIS RIDICULOUS DRAMA ALSO MAKES NO SENSE.

Argument some will make: What Brett hs done for GB is legendary and therefore he should be given a free lifetime pass to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants, regardless of how it will effect GB, the team, or its fans. Point taken. My response: Is Brett more important than the team and its future? Was his legacy a solo act? Did he do all of those wonderful things in the mid-late 90s all by himself? Quick quiz..number of MVPS won, superbowls played in, and SBs won by Brett Favre without Ron Wolf, Mike Holmgren, Reggie White, Leroy Butler (and a few other notables) right there with him...I LOVE THE MAN. Brett is one of the greatest ever, but football is a TEAM sport, and he is NOT solely responsible for all that has made Green Bay Titletown USA over the course of the last eighty years.

[GoPackGo]

What else makes no sense: Brett has one of his best years on a team that looks very strong with a bright future, Favre finally has weapons, one game from SB and so then amidst all of this excitement and hope for 2008 Brett..drumroll please..retires, he does so because he says he has nothing left to give and cannot do it anymore, end of story, Pack mourns his leaving but respects his choice, pack publically and emphaticaly states AR is the man and team has moved forward supporting their new QB as they should, Brett will be honored immediately by being one of a very short list to have his number retired, sadness in GB but hope and anticipation of a new era begins, Brett then privately says he wants to return in March, the Packers privately say come on back even after they have publically called AR the man and GBP his team, Brett then says oops I changed my mind again, Packers say ok-- your decison again, and they move forward again, they draft TWO quarterbacks and change the offense for AR, then Brett gets an itch, he calls all of the info just rumor and says he's staying retired, meanwhile his family is taking cheap shots (oh his behalf?) at upper management. Favre puts TT and team in a no-win situation by demanding a release, Favre thinks team owes it to him to put the team in a crappy position by letting him go anywhere he wants (like MN, for instance). now Favre is pissed at the team for not complying with his every want and need after his i can't do it anymore so i'm retired- wait i'm not retired in march-retired again in march-now i have an itch in june saga? he has put himself and the team and upper management in a shitty position..and it's somehow TTs fault that it all happend. who loses? the fans that have loved the Pack and Favre for a long time, the organization for damning the legacy that is Favre and potentially it's future by alienating it's new QB, and TT who loses maybe the most no matter what he decides. what a wonderful way top repay the GM that has done a pretty good job putting a good young team together and rescuing it from salary cap hell just a few years back. I wonder if Brett cares. THIS RIDICULOUS DRAMA ALSO MAKES NO SENSE.

Argument some will make: What Brett hs done for GB is legendary and therefore he should be given a free lifetime pass to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants, regardless of how it will effect GB, the team, or its fans. Point taken. My response: Is Brett more important than the team and its future? Was his legacy a solo act? Did he do all of those wonderful things in the mid-late 90s all by himself? Quick quiz..number of MVPS won, superbowls played in, and SBs won by Brett Favre without Ron Wolf, Mike Holmgren, Reggie White, Leroy Butler (and a few other notables) right there with him...I LOVE THE MAN. Brett is one of the greatest ever, but football is a TEAM sport, and he is NOT solely responsible for all that has made Green Bay Titletown USA over the course of the last eighty years.

cheers to that post 27, Brilliant!

[Scott Campbell]

As John Lennon sang, "Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans."

And as Brett seems to be singing:

"Will you still need me, will you still feed me,
When I'm sixty-four."

[Bretsky]

Yes, if the Packers flop it could get pretty ugly, esspecially if Favre has success.

On the flip side, if the Packers tear it up and Favre has a bad year I think the Packer brass will have exited the Wolf/Favre shadow and truely entered into their own era.

Absolutely true

I hope Green Bay gets a 3rd round pick (to me that's the highest they will possibly get) if they trade Favre.

If Green Bay does not win the Super Bowl I'd like to see the team they pitch Favre to win it all.

Why would we only get a 3rd when Montana got a player plus a 1st and a 3rd? I think he has to go to the highest bidder assuming it's not in the division.

Draft picks are valued more then they were in the past IMO; GM's are far more conservative to give away draft picks in our era.

And there has been more drama in this ordeal than SF.

With every team knowing TT wants to get rid of Favre we're on our way to getting lowballed for a guy who is statistically coming off an unbelievable year

[twoseven]

cheers to that post 27, Brilliant!

Now tell me why I feel like the world's biggest asshole for thinking it. This whole things sucks.

[Bretsky]

Yes, if the Packers flop it could get pretty ugly, esspecially if Favre has success.

On the flip side, if the Packers tear it up and Favre has a bad year I think the Packer brass will have exited the Wolf/Favre shadow and truely entered into their own era.

Absolutely true

I hope Green Bay gets a 3rd round pick (to me that's the highest they will possibly get) if they trade Favre.

If Green Bay does not win the Super Bowl I'd like to see the team they pitch Favre to win it all.

I'm guilty of being a win now guy; which means I favor bringing Favre back.
I'd be all for trading him if we get a 1st round pick; in this era IMO that won't happen

Why would we only get a 3rd when Montana got a player plus a 1st and a 3rd? I think he has to go to the highest bidder assuming it's not in the division.

Was Montana 38 years old when he was traded? I'm not entirely sure, I'd have to look it up, but I don't think he was that old. If he wasn't, then there's your answer. A first round pick is supposed to be used to build your team for the future. A 38 year old QB does nothing for the long term success of your team, so I would not use a 1st round pick to get him. Even if it's Brett Favre.

I dont' remember how old Montana was, but I do know he wasn't even 100% healthy like Favre is. I'd be terribly disappointed if we didn't get at least a 1st for him if not a 1st and a 5th or something similar.

[Bretsky]

As an avid TT supporter I'd like to promise everyone that if we sink into the doldrums of the NFL under Thompsons command that I will have zero excuses.

If? I think when should be the operative word. Sooner or later every team is going to have a bad season. And as soon as the Packers do, you can bet it'll be break out the pitch fork time for the I HATE TED crowd. And they're an angry bunch, after having to bite their tongues after the 13-3 romp last year.

It would likely be later rather than sooner. Remember the 21 starters not named Aaron Rodgers are pretty good too.

That is what TT has done so well; IMO Rodgers will have to be brutal for Green Bay not win at least 9 games....probably putting them in the playoffs. He really doesn't have to be that good to win 10 and win the division because the surrounding cast is solid. He will have to be good to match a 13 win season.

[The Shadow]

http://sports.aol.com/voices/jensen/_a/favre-should-pack-it-in/20080712084309990001

[GoPackGo]

cheers to that post 27, Brilliant!

Now tell me why I feel like the world's biggest asshole for thinking it. This whole things sucks.

Thats the reality of it and it makes perfect sense to me. Don't take any of this drama with Favre personal. If you can help it