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  • #16
    i don't know if we have americas team right now, although i've also seen packer fans everywhere i've been

    but i can promise you we have americas player in brett favre. the experts might have it out for him, but if you talk to real football fans from any team who'll find out that the respect the hell out of him more then any other player, and when he's on TV, they watch

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    • #17
      i think the closest to an america's team would be the Cubs. seems like everyone could root for the cubs. (unless your a live on the southside of Chicago).

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      • #18
        sory mr. wallbanger, but I'm not everstating anything. Th steelers to the game last year outnumbered any packer game i have been to. Plus the fact that they were more vocal than most packer games i ahve attended (although they were ahead almost the entire game which probably hadalot to do with that).

        As far as merchandise, i wouldn't be surprised at all if the raiders win that battle every year. the simple black and silver are in every inner city in america. Most of jersey sales are probably bot fans, they jsut buy them because they look "cool".

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        • #19
          But I bet that there are more fights at the Vikes Packer game!!!!!!
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          • #20
            Originally posted by BigDmoney
            As far as merchandise, i wouldn't be surprised at all if the raiders win that battle every year. the simple black and silver are in every inner city in america. Most of jersey sales are probably bot fans, they jsut buy them because they look "cool".
            Steelers led last year. Oakland led in 2004. Green Bay has a record of nine straight seasons in the top 5, and have also had the top sales at time in the past. Several teams have split the top sales over the last 10 years, but Green Bay has been a constant in the top 5, and I think that says a lot.
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            • #21
              I think the Cowboys are indeed America's team. Go to any foreign land and almost any lad who knows a damn about American football will tell you their favorite team is the Cowboys. Hence, the Cowboys represents America; hence, they are America;s team.

              I think the Raiders are California's team.

              I think the Dolphins are Florida's team.

              I think the Packers are white men's team.

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              • #22
                America's Team

                From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                The Dallas Cowboys: The Complete History of America's Team 1960-2003

                America’s Team is an established term used to describe the Dallas Cowboys franchise that plays in the NFC East of the National Football League.

                Bob Ryan, the Vice President and editor-in-chief of NFL Films, coined this for the Cowboys in 1979. After preparing and editing the team’s 1978 season highlight film he had to come up with a title for the film. He was quoted as saying:

                "After the '78 season, the Cowboys had just lost a crushing Super Bowl to the Steelers. I wanted to come up with a different twist on their team highlight film. I noticed then, and had noticed earlier, that wherever the Cowboys played, you saw people in the stands with Cowboys jerseys and hats and pennants. Plus, they were always the national game on television."

                Drawing upon this inspiration and that of other nationally followed sports teams, such as the New York Yankees in Major League Baseball, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish in college football and the Boston Celtics in pro basketball, which Ryan said "are all America’s teams," he decided to use America’s Team as the name of the highlight film.

                During the Cowboys' first game of the 1979 season, a nationally televised game against the St. Louis Cardinals (which Dallas won 22-21), the television announcer introduced the Cowboys as America’s Team and the nickname stuck.

                Originally Dallas’ Hall of Fame coach, Tom Landry, did not approve of the appellation. He felt that it would give opposing teams extra incentive to play harder. Eventually he gave in and actually came to like the name.

                In 2003, NFL Films released a DVD collection chronicling the Dallas Cowboys franchise entitled The Dallas Cowboys: The Complete History of America's Team 1960-2003.


                Other claims to the name

                ** The term is occasionally used by some fans to describe the Green Bay Packers.

                ** The term was also applied to the New England Patriots by some fans after the Pats repeated a feat accomplished for the first time by the Dallas Cowboys several years earlier, namely winning three Super Bowl victories in a mere four years.

                ** And in 2005, the name was briefly used as a term of endearment for the New Orleans Saints following the disaster of Hurricane Katrina.
                A term is also used for the New York Yankees, Los Angeles Lakers, Atlanta Braves, and the Boston Celtics.

                ** The Fabulous Sports Babe dubbed the Hartford Whalers America's Team on her ESPN radio show.

                ** It's also a term used for a team that currently has a good reputation nationwide.

                ** The Oakland Raiders are occasionally called by this name, but more often an equivalent term, Raider Nation, is used to expressed similar widespread fandom.

                ** In 2004, ESPN christened the University of Utah's football team America's Team during their improbable run to an undefeated season and a BCS bowl game. The Utes became the first non-BCS team to play in a BCS game.


                So there are several establised claims to the esteemed term or accolade of America's Team. woodbuck27
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                • #23
                  What's America's soda? Or America's TV show? Or America's idol? Is football America's sport? Is there an "America's Team" in basketball? Or baseball? My point? It's arrogance to call anything or anyone "America's Team" because we're a diverse nation of differing opinions and interests. A Cowboy fan in Dallas would laugh in our faces if we called the Pack "America's Team". Likewise to a Steeler fan. Or a Bears fan. Football is entertainment. If its judged by how well the product sells, then the title is awarded based on popularity.

                  I love the Pack and they are my favorite professional sports team, but I can't call them "America's Team". Applying that title works when you're a fan; doesn't work so well when you're not a fan. It's a marketing gimmick, meant to sell more jerseys and boost PR for a team.

                  Perhaps "America's Team" is whoever won the Lombardi Trophy the previous year. In that case, the Steelers are "America's Team".

                  tyler
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by woodbuck27
                    America's Team

                    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                    The Dallas Cowboys: The Complete History of America's Team 1960-2003

                    America’s Team is an established term used to describe the Dallas Cowboys franchise that plays in the NFC East of the National Football League.

                    Bob Ryan, the Vice President and editor-in-chief of NFL Films, coined this for the Cowboys in 1979. After preparing and editing the team’s 1978 season highlight film he had to come up with a title for the film. He was quoted as saying:

                    "After the '78 season, the Cowboys had just lost a crushing Super Bowl to the Steelers. I wanted to come up with a different twist on their team highlight film. I noticed then, and had noticed earlier, that wherever the Cowboys played, you saw people in the stands with Cowboys jerseys and hats and pennants. Plus, they were always the national game on television."

                    Drawing upon this inspiration and that of other nationally followed sports teams, such as the New York Yankees in Major League Baseball, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish in college football and the Boston Celtics in pro basketball, which Ryan said "are all America’s teams," he decided to use America’s Team as the name of the highlight film.

                    During the Cowboys' first game of the 1979 season, a nationally televised game against the St. Louis Cardinals (which Dallas won 22-21), the television announcer introduced the Cowboys as America’s Team and the nickname stuck.

                    Originally Dallas’ Hall of Fame coach, Tom Landry, did not approve of the appellation. He felt that it would give opposing teams extra incentive to play harder. Eventually he gave in and actually came to like the name.

                    In 2003, NFL Films released a DVD collection chronicling the Dallas Cowboys franchise entitled The Dallas Cowboys: The Complete History of America's Team 1960-2003.


                    Other claims to the name

                    ** The term is occasionally used by some fans to describe the Green Bay Packers.

                    ** The term was also applied to the New England Patriots by some fans after the Pats repeated a feat accomplished for the first time by the Dallas Cowboys several years earlier, namely winning three Super Bowl victories in a mere four years.

                    ** And in 2005, the name was briefly used as a term of endearment for the New Orleans Saints following the disaster of Hurricane Katrina.
                    A term is also used for the New York Yankees, Los Angeles Lakers, Atlanta Braves, and the Boston Celtics.

                    ** The Fabulous Sports Babe dubbed the Hartford Whalers America's Team on her ESPN radio show.

                    ** It's also a term used for a team that currently has a good reputation nationwide.

                    ** The Oakland Raiders are occasionally called by this name, but more often an equivalent term, Raider Nation, is used to expressed similar widespread fandom.

                    ** In 2004, ESPN christened the University of Utah's football team America's Team during their improbable run to an undefeated season and a BCS bowl game. The Utes became the first non-BCS team to play in a BCS game.


                    So there are several establised claims to the esteemed term or accolade of America's Team. woodbuck27
                    Great. So an NFL films guy is the start of this whole Cowboys-Americas Team fiasco. With that in mind, the title is even more irrelevant. Were the Cowboys America's Team when they were 4-12 and one of the worst teams in football? I think not.

                    tyler
                    Receive thy new Possessor: One who brings
                    A mind not to be chang'd by Place or Time.
                    The mind is its own place, and in it self
                    Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n.

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                    • #25
                      so if or when another team wins more championships will Green Bay lose its lable as TitleTown USA??

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Little Whiskey
                        so if or when another team wins more championships will Green Bay lose its lable as TitleTown USA??
                        Would stand to reason. To me, Titletown USA isn't as offensive as a team calling themselves "America's Team" and the "Titletown" title really only covers the NFL. Chicago, as a city, probably owns more professional sports titles than Green Bay. A rhetorical question: do you think many people outside of the GB fanbase call GB TitleTown? Do you think a Bears fan calls GB TitleTown? Isn't it arguable whether or not GB has more titles than any team in the NFL? (I thought history was a bit controversial pre-NFL). I don't know. Just wondering.

                        I think I'm going to start calling myself "America's Demon Rat".

                        tyler
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                        A mind not to be chang'd by Place or Time.
                        The mind is its own place, and in it self
                        Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by woodbuck27
                          America's Team

                          From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                          ** In 2004, ESPN christened the University of Utah's football team America's Team during their improbable run to an undefeated season and a BCS bowl game. The Utes became the first non-BCS team to play in a BCS game.
                          I did not know that. Cool.

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