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  • #31
    Originally posted by PackerTimer
    Originally posted by GoPackGo
    "Mike (McCarthy) and I talked about it, and we both agreed that it would still be a good idea (for Favre to play)," Thompson said. "Mike called Brett back and said, Great, we'd like to come and talk to you, sit and talk to you.' ''

    my interpretation: Favre must officially unretire before TT talks about Bretts role on the team. TT and Coach both agreed that it would be a good idea for Brett to keep playing. Based on the quote above, Brett will unretire and most likely beat out Rodgers in a training camp position battle to once again QB the Packers to another NFC north crown.
    I think you are misreading TT on this. It was a good idea at the time, in March, not now. If and when he unretires, the Packers have moved on and he'll more than likely be traded. I wouldn't get your hopes up. I don't think you'll ever see Favre in Packer jersey again.
    Why does everyone keep saying this?!? They've had OTAs and a couple of minicamps... These are primarily to keep guys in shape and for the team to get to know one another.

    The vast majority of the practice in pads and implementation of the offense is in TC. Besides, you don't think the savy vet and best quarterback to ever play the game couldn't pick up 10 new plays? Nonsense.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Partial
      Originally posted by PackerTimer
      Originally posted by GoPackGo
      "Mike (McCarthy) and I talked about it, and we both agreed that it would still be a good idea (for Favre to play)," Thompson said. "Mike called Brett back and said, Great, we'd like to come and talk to you, sit and talk to you.' ''

      my interpretation: Favre must officially unretire before TT talks about Bretts role on the team. TT and Coach both agreed that it would be a good idea for Brett to keep playing. Based on the quote above, Brett will unretire and most likely beat out Rodgers in a training camp position battle to once again QB the Packers to another NFC north crown.
      I think you are misreading TT on this. It was a good idea at the time, in March, not now. If and when he unretires, the Packers have moved on and he'll more than likely be traded. I wouldn't get your hopes up. I don't think you'll ever see Favre in Packer jersey again.
      Why does everyone keep saying this?!? They've had OTAs and a couple of minicamps... These are primarily to keep guys in shape and for the team to get to know one another.

      The vast majority of the practice in pads and implementation of the offense is in TC. Besides, you don't think the savy vet and best quarterback to ever play the game couldn't pick up 10 new plays? Nonsense.
      Johnny Unitas is dead, so no.
      Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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      • #33
        Lol, Shadow. P, McCarthy installs his offense in minicamp. The people who are expressing caution against ASSUMING that Favre has to be the best player are those that are old enough to feel what life is like at 38, who could feel what Favre was talking about at his retirement and know what it feels like to try and keep up your performance level as you age. The other question is one of commitment.

        Favre said "give me my helmet" M3 asked are you 100% committed, and Favre said no.

        No one is saying DON'T play him. I'm hearing a lot of "let's be cautious about it and not make any assumptions based on the past because the past is in the past."

        In March, 2 months after that loss, he was still physically dragged down and mentally beat.
        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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        • #34
          Originally posted by MJZiggy
          Lol, Shadow. P, McCarthy installs his offense in minicamp. The people who are expressing caution against ASSUMING that Favre has to be the best player are those that are old enough to feel what life is like at 38, who could feel what Favre was talking about at his retirement and know what it feels like to try and keep up your performance level as you age. The other question is one of commitment.

          Favre said "give me my helmet" M3 asked are you 100% committed, and Favre said no.

          No one is saying DON'T play him. I'm hearing a lot of "let's be cautious about it and not make any assumptions based on the past because the past is in the past."

          In March, 2 months after that loss, he was still physically dragged down and mentally beat.
          After that loss to the Giants and on 'the now famous Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy timeline'.

          When was the first time that Ted Thompson, our Packer GM and representing Packer Upper management. Sat down personally to show Favre any real support for 2008 MJ?
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          • #35
            Originally posted by The Shadow
            Originally posted by Partial
            Originally posted by PackerTimer
            Originally posted by GoPackGo
            "Mike (McCarthy) and I talked about it, and we both agreed that it would still be a good idea (for Favre to play)," Thompson said. "Mike called Brett back and said, Great, we'd like to come and talk to you, sit and talk to you.' ''

            my interpretation: Favre must officially unretire before TT talks about Bretts role on the team. TT and Coach both agreed that it would be a good idea for Brett to keep playing. Based on the quote above, Brett will unretire and most likely beat out Rodgers in a training camp position battle to once again QB the Packers to another NFC north crown.
            I think you are misreading TT on this. It was a good idea at the time, in March, not now. If and when he unretires, the Packers have moved on and he'll more than likely be traded. I wouldn't get your hopes up. I don't think you'll ever see Favre in Packer jersey again.
            Why does everyone keep saying this?!? They've had OTAs and a couple of minicamps... These are primarily to keep guys in shape and for the team to get to know one another.

            The vast majority of the practice in pads and implementation of the offense is in TC. Besides, you don't think the savy vet and best quarterback to ever play the game couldn't pick up 10 new plays? Nonsense.
            Johnny Unitas is dead, so no.
            Don't you mean Otto Graham?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by woodbuck27
              Originally posted by MJZiggy
              Lol, Shadow. P, McCarthy installs his offense in minicamp. The people who are expressing caution against ASSUMING that Favre has to be the best player are those that are old enough to feel what life is like at 38, who could feel what Favre was talking about at his retirement and know what it feels like to try and keep up your performance level as you age. The other question is one of commitment.

              Favre said "give me my helmet" M3 asked are you 100% committed, and Favre said no.

              No one is saying DON'T play him. I'm hearing a lot of "let's be cautious about it and not make any assumptions based on the past because the past is in the past."

              In March, 2 months after that loss, he was still physically dragged down and mentally beat.
              After that loss to the Giants and on 'the now famous Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy timeline'.

              When was the first time that Ted Thompson, our Packer GM and representing Packer Upper management. Sat down personally to show Favre any real support for 2008 MJ?
              He probably was going to get around to it when he got done blowin' the rest of the team.

              I guess he forgot that Brett is more important than the rest of the TEAM!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by woodbuck27
                Originally posted by MJZiggy
                Lol, Shadow. P, McCarthy installs his offense in minicamp. The people who are expressing caution against ASSUMING that Favre has to be the best player are those that are old enough to feel what life is like at 38, who could feel what Favre was talking about at his retirement and know what it feels like to try and keep up your performance level as you age. The other question is one of commitment.

                Favre said "give me my helmet" M3 asked are you 100% committed, and Favre said no.

                No one is saying DON'T play him. I'm hearing a lot of "let's be cautious about it and not make any assumptions based on the past because the past is in the past."

                In March, 2 months after that loss, he was still physically dragged down and mentally beat.
                After that loss to the Giants and on 'the now famous Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy timeline'.

                When was the first time that Ted Thompson, our Packer GM and representing Packer Upper management. Sat down personally to show Favre any real support for 2008 MJ?
                March 4 IIRC. Then again in May when he stopped down to visit in Hattiesburg.
                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by MJZiggy
                  Originally posted by woodbuck27
                  Originally posted by MJZiggy
                  Lol, Shadow. P, McCarthy installs his offense in minicamp. The people who are expressing caution against ASSUMING that Favre has to be the best player are those that are old enough to feel what life is like at 38, who could feel what Favre was talking about at his retirement and know what it feels like to try and keep up your performance level as you age. The other question is one of commitment.

                  Favre said "give me my helmet" M3 asked are you 100% committed, and Favre said no.

                  No one is saying DON'T play him. I'm hearing a lot of "let's be cautious about it and not make any assumptions based on the past because the past is in the past."

                  In March, 2 months after that loss, he was still physically dragged down and mentally beat.
                  After that loss to the Giants and on 'the now famous Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy timeline'.

                  When was the first time that Ted Thompson, our Packer GM and representing Packer Upper management. Sat down personally to show Favre any real support for 2008 MJ?
                  March 4 IIRC. Then again in May when he stopped down to visit in Hattiesburg.

                  Just when you think you've seen the pinnacle of stupidity...............I wonder if Canada is embarrassed?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by digitaldean
                    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                    I've never seen you this worked up before digital dean. I like it!
                    Scott,

                    I had to sign off for awhile. I'm so upset with all those bashing the Packers.

                    Favre has had his way for the past several years and got all sorts of special treatment. For that I DO fault the Packers.

                    But other than that, I have lost a little respect for Brett. This whole escapade is utter nonsense.

                    Your past post was so, lets see, "What have you done for me lately?" Lets run Favre through the muck attack him personally and his family. Yet as soon as he is again the starting QB for the Packers you all are gong to have your Favre jerseys on screaming at the top of your lungs for your hero. Totally forgetting the bullshit that you and everyone else are so bold to spew about him. The life of the fan.

                    For one I think Ted Thompson and the Packers are in a very difficult position none of which can be blamed on them. Like Thompson said in the interview, he doesn't blame Favre for this situation, Favre wants to play football. I personally don't exactly like the way this has all been handled by the Favre clan, still I ain't gonna sit here on a forum and slander the guy, especially after all he has done for the Packer organization as a player and a person.

                    I am cool with the way Thompson has handled this situation, very dicey and no easy way out. Too many promises made. Thompson and McCarthy were more than happy to have Favre back in late March, and Favre again turned back to retirement. So I think the Packers do wonder about Favre's commitment to football in 2008, and as far as Favre coming back and being the starting QB the Packers are going to make him prove that he is totally committed to football. Right now Aaron Rodgers is the committed player, he is like Thompson said the best answer at QB for the Packers because he is on the roster, and has been to the OTAs and mini camps. Until Favre can show up to training camp and show that he is emotionally, mentally, and physically repaired and ready to go for 2008 Aaron Rodgers is the starting QB.

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                    • #40
                      Nutz,

                      There's no way it's a "what have you done for me lately" response.

                      I am just tired of this BS soap opera Favre has pulled the last few seasons.

                      Favre has let everyone except himself reply to this mess. TT feels the heat from the fans and has gone on virtually every major news outlet to put out his side of the story. Brett is well...silent. If all this stuff is being said about TT and it's not true, then it's Brett's job to clear up his relationship with TT.

                      Both you and Woody are thinking I'm getting personal in this. I am attacking no fellow Rat or Favre. Interpret it however you want, but it's not that and it sure the heck is slander.

                      I am voicing my opinion on how he has acted (or done nothing) in this situation. I have even prefaced my previous posts about all the good he has done for the team and for charities. But if he is acting wrong, he's not above criticism, living legend or not.

                      He is the #1 Packer player and a 1st ballot HOF'er. I know the list of crap QB's and characters that played in the 3 decades before we won SB 31. I don't want him to leave, but I sure don't want him to drag this organization through something this divisive.
                      -digital dean

                      No "TROLLS" allowed!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by digitaldean
                        Nutz,

                        There's no way it's a "what have you done for me lately" response.

                        I am just tired of this BS soap opera Favre has pulled the last few seasons.

                        Favre has let everyone except himself reply to this mess. TT feels the heat from the fans and has gone on virtually every major news outlet to put out his side of the story. Brett is well...silent. If all this stuff is being said about TT and it's not true, then it's Brett's job to clear up his relationship with TT.

                        Both you and Woody are thinking I'm getting personal in this. I am attacking no fellow Rat or Favre. Interpret it however you want, but it's not that and it sure the heck is slander.

                        I am voicing my opinion on how he has acted (or done nothing) in this situation. I have even prefaced my previous posts about all the good he has done for the team and for charities. But if he is acting wrong, he's not above criticism, living legend or not.

                        He is the #1 Packer player and a 1st ballot HOF'er. I know the list of crap QB's and characters that played in the 3 decades before we won SB 31. I don't want him to leave, but I sure don't want him to drag this organization through something this divisive.
                        Honestly, what has he done that has been so bad that the poor Green Bay Packers can't recover from?

                        From what I remember of 2007 Favre didn't pull any retirement problems, he waited a month or so, and declared no retirement, sure he bitched about not getting Moss, but that had nothing to do with retirement, nor did he ever ask for a trade.

                        He is the media focal point of this franchise so everything that Favre does gets put on front page news and over dramatized so people like you can get upset and curse and claim he has done such unfavorable things to the Packers franchise. Is he trying to start his own NFL team in Mississippi? Is he trying to steal players like Al Harris and Don Driver from the Packers?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                          Honestly, what has he done that has been so bad that the poor Green Bay Packers can't recover from?
                          Don't you think that insinuating that the OP thought that "Packer's can't recover from" this situation, is overstating his position a tad? Of course they can recover from it, that doesn't make it any less of a pain in the ass to deal with.

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                          • #43
                            I'm very glad Thompson came out publically and stated his views. He hit a home run IMO.

                            I have little doubt that if Favre wants to play in 2008, that he can play and START for the Packers. However, Thompson wants to be sure that Favre wants to play...which is why he is refusing to grant Favre the knowledge of what exactly would happen if he returned to the team.

                            I can't see Thompson trading Favre unless he gets a very sweet deal for doing so. He certainly won't release him outright. Favre has 2 choices...play (under the terms of the Packers) or retire.
                            My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by The Leaper
                              I'm very glad Thompson came out publically and stated his views. He hit a home run IMO.

                              I have little doubt that if Favre wants to play in 2008, that he can play and START for the Packers. However, Thompson wants to be sure that Favre wants to play...which is why he is refusing to grant Favre the knowledge of what exactly would happen if he returned to the team.

                              I can't see Thompson trading Favre unless he gets a very sweet deal for doing so. He certainly won't release him outright. Favre has 2 choices...play (under the terms of the Packers) or retire.
                              I think I have mostly been in agreement with you on most of the Favre talk. Since the Packers/Ted Thompson have spoken with the media I have floated more towards the middle of this situation. I can't believe Thompson has been this big of a villian in this situation preventing Favre from wearing the Green and Gold again.

                              The main focus for me is to see Favre play football for the Green Bay Packers in 2008 or play for no one. Yes, I am being selfish, but why should the Packers make some other team stronger in 2008?

                              I can't see the Packers trading Favre to Tampa Bay, or any other NFC team or team that will show up on the schedule in 2008.

                              I like the fact that Ted Thompson turned this back on Favre. You wanna play football again, show up, no promises attached.

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